Once you're in you're in for life

[Ulter]

My current cycle started July 4 2000.
I have been cycling on and off for 20 years.
If I stopped the only worry I have is the joint pain that was so intense in my shoulders that for a couple years I couldn't put my coat on by myself. Hense, I use deca every week and the pain is gone.
I have been on cycles that were as long as 14 month in the past and come off with only 8 weeks of PCT. Note: In the early years we all just crashed for 6 weeks because we didn't know what PCT was.
So no, I wouldn't be worried about bringing my HPTA back online. Only my joint pain. It would take about 8-12 weeks to restore my natural test. If you are healthy in every other way coming back from an 18 month or a 2 month cycle is the same.

 

[GeneticFreak18]

My current cycle started July 4 2000.
I have been cycling on and off for 20 years.
If I stopped the only worry I have is the joint pain that was so intense in my shoulders that for a couple years I couldn't put my coat on by myself. Hense, I use deca every week and the pain is gone.
I have been on cycles that were as long as 14 month in the past and come off with only 8 weeks of PCT. Note: In the early years we all just crashed for 6 weeks because we didn't know what PCT was.
So no, I wouldn't be worried about bringing my HPTA back online. Only my joint pain. It would take about 8-12 weeks to restore my natural test. If you are healthy in every other way coming back from an 18 month or a 2 month cycle is the same.

i would hope you are a sick looking freak after that amount of steroid use. the thing that pisses me off is the people that abuse steroids and give people who "use" steroids a bad name. there is a fine line between using and abusing, your an abuser. you must have a pretty high paying job though to support your abuse so congrats on that.

 

[Ulter]

I don't think I am a sick looking freak but I think I look good and better than most. I don't think you're very familiar with steroid use or the advantages of it for a better quality of life or you wouldn't make such a post. It is the people like yourself that propagate myths about how bad steroid use it.

 

[Mavy]

Ulter; Do you really think that your test levels will bounce right back to normal after putting them through a rollercoaster ride for 20 years? I dont know, but I would say it would maybe be a bit of a struggle.

geneticfreak .. i do have to agree with Ulter though. I dont think that he gives steroid use a bad name, as he is very educated on usage .. he just has a longer usage history than most. I do think that kids juicing at 18 years old does give steroids a bad name though.

 

[Ulter]

Mavy, I have always bounced back and I have no reason to believe this time would be any different. I have not read any literature that ties length of use to time of recovery with exception of one paper where 3 bodybuilders were using over 2gr/wk for 3-4 years. Those guys took 12 months to recover.

 

[BigAndy69]

As long as rec drugs, alcohol and smoking are not part of the mix, there is no reason you can't stay on anabolics for a long time. Most of us live a fairly healthy lifestyle.

 

[Mandinka2]

I prefer training off gear , I train 3x as long on gear and I really don't like to spend so long inside the gym. The extra size and strength is great but I prefer to give everything on 2-3 sets for one bodypart (often pre-exhaust used). Just my personality.

 

[GeneticFreak18]

geneticfreak .. i do have to agree with Ulter though. I dont think that he gives steroid use a bad name, as he is very educated on usage .. he just has a longer usage history than most. I do think that kids juicing at 18 years old does give steroids a bad name though.

okay so it makes more sense for someone who has no intention of bodybuilding to use ridiculous amounts of juice for "the common good". but for someone who is bodybuilder, who uses very moderate dosages gives steroids a bad name?

 

[OMEGA]

I look at it as a last minute brush up

I am an endo and pretty big already ( with develped muscle btw)

then I will just hit it for 8 weeks and get really cut, I do this after training balls out for about 8-12 weeks then hit it for 8 more weekd to break though then give my slef another 8 weeks to consolidate gains and maybe start again that incudes the preliminary 12 weeks of balls out trainign naturally

 

[Juice Authority]

okay so it makes more sense for someone who has no intention of bodybuilding to use ridiculous amounts of juice for "the common good". but for someone who is bodybuilder, who uses very moderate dosages gives steroids a bad name?

Did ulter every say that he was using ridiculous amounts of gear? If anything I believe he said the he is moderate to low dose gear user over a much longer period of time.