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Okay this is too big to ignore - the dark side of clomid

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Okay guys n gals, it may very well be the be all and end all of recovery programs but ive came across far too many incidences of the detrimental effects of clomid, the bottom line is that it either works for you or it doesnt, unfortunately the doesnt part is fraught with controversy, IT CAN MAKE SOME PEOPLE CRAZY, i know of people who have had suicidal/homicidal thoughts whilst using clomid, i know of someone who was a pretty stable guy until he hit clomid and took his own life, now im sick of the fannying about with this subject, its time people put their cards on the table, and regardless of what "other" people might think this is a life or death issue, we dont have to lie down and say but thats all we have, there are plenty of good - better alternatives to clomid, if you have had ANY negative effects whilst on clomid, let me know, post it for everyone to see.

H
 
Never had a problem with it, but I'm not a very emotional person.
 
yes i was on clomid/nolva pct 2 weeks ago, about 3 weeks into it, and i almost offed myself dec 11,, man it was rough !! i never get emotional to that extent over a bitch, but i spent all day at work thinking about it, told my ex i was done w/life, fortunately she still loves me enough to call my brother and he was at my house when i got home and calmed me down. if he wasnt there, i might have gone thru with it... CLOMID was NO GOOD for me .. i'm done with that shit!!!!
 
LVTitan said:
yes i was on clomid/nolva pct 2 weeks ago, about 3 weeks into it, and i almost offed myself dec 11,, man it was rough !! i never get emotional to that extent over a bitch, but i spent all day at work thinking about it, told my ex i was done w/life, fortunately she still loves me enough to call my brother and he was at my house when i got home and calmed me down. if he wasnt there, i might have gone thru with it... CLOMID was NO GOOD for me .. i'm done with that shit!!!!


Damn Bro. I never heard this before. I have used Clomid but it was about 3 years ago. I am nervous now. I recently got divorced and moved into an apartment after I found my wife was fucking around. I dont need any mind altering shit right now....Hum maybe I will rethink my PCT....Has anyone else had adverse effects.
 
initagain said:
Damn Bro. I never heard this before. I have used Clomid but it was about 3 years ago. I am nervous now. I recently got divorced and moved into an apartment after I found my wife was fucking around. I dont need any mind altering shit right now....Hum maybe I will rethink my PCT....Has anyone else had adverse effects.
just stick w/hcg and nolva bro if you're worried. i've had a few people tell me that is enough for pct. i will never touch clomid again.
 
you mean people still use clomid when nolva is more affective, much safer, and costs less????
 
satchboogie said:
you mean people still use clomid when nolva is more affective, much safer, and costs less????

Sometimes, we need to get in touch with our feminine side.
 
yup, clomid makes me an emotional little bitch, and I'm usually machine-like (according to various significant others).

when I was a kid, before puberty performed its testosterone magic, I remember crying myself to sleep for a week when my pet beagle got run over. the only adult time I ever felt the same way was when a clomid run coincided with a breakup with an ex. sucked bigtime, and I didnt know why I was reacting that way, so out of character. and she knew how busted up I was about it.

after I figured out it was the clomid, I almost called her to tell her "SEE BITCH, IT WAS THE CLOMID, NOT YOU, THAT WAS MAKING ME CRY". :-}

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geoboy said:
yup, clomid makes me an emotional little bitch, and I'm usually machine-like (according to various significant others).

when I was a kid, before puberty performed its testosterone magic, I remember crying myself to sleep for a week when my pet beagle got run over. the only adult time I ever felt the same way was when a clomid run coincided with a breakup with an ex. sucked bigtime, and I didnt know why I was reacting that way, so out of character. and she knew how busted up I was about it.

after I figured out it was the clomid, I almost called her to tell her "SEE BITCH, IT WAS THE CLOMID, NOT YOU, THAT WAS MAKING ME CRY". :-}

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LMAO....You should have
 
i dont think it is the clomid so much as it is the person who takes it...what i mean is that someone can think they are emotionally stable when inreality others know that you may have psychological issues, then taking hormones ontop of those psychological issues only confuses your brain and causes many unwanted effects, thus this results in the suicidal thoughts or become someone you really arnt due to the hormones
 
greekhookup said:
i dont think it is the clomid so much as it is the person who takes it...what i mean is that someone can think they are emotionally stable when inreality others know that you may have psychological issues, then taking hormones ontop of those psychological issues only confuses your brain and causes many unwanted effects, thus this results in the suicidal thoughts or become someone you really arnt due to the hormones


Im sorry but that is so wrong in so many ways, we are all unstable, there is no such thing as a stable human being, we all differ, some more exteme, some introvert, there is a galaxy of human emotion which no one can pick apart, however there are clear issues, which, with definetly defined drugs can be resolved, do not use the drugs that interfere with normal thinking, i.e in this case clomid.

H
 
greekhookup said:
i dont think it is the clomid so much as it is the person who takes it...what i mean is that someone can think they are emotionally stable when inreality others know that you may have psychological issues, then taking hormones ontop of those psychological issues only confuses your brain and causes many unwanted effects, thus this results in the suicidal thoughts or become someone you really arnt due to the hormones

Bro that is a pretty narrow minded statement to make. I lost my brother to mind altering drugs. Make no mistake drugs of varoius types can alter a PERFECTLY NORMAL persons mind set. God bless you if you ever have to experience such a loss but then you would change you opinion on this topic.
 
I start calling up every ex-girlfriend I dumped, begging for forgiveness while on clomid. Never suicidal thoughts though.
 
I got really weird on clomid. It made me think like an emotionally unstable girl. Us burley men aren't used to that crap! One time some girls at work were passing notes to eacother and I actually got upset that nobody passed me one! Holy crap I was messed :p ......Good thing I never lost my girlfriend or anything cause who knows what kind of dumb shit I would have done if I wasn't getting laid. I made it a point of telling her I might get a little weird for a while while I was on clomid and she was cool with it.

Clomid and hard times do not mix well. :insane:
 
oatsandgrains said:
One time some girls at work were passing notes to eacother and I actually got upset that nobody passed me one! Holy crap I was messed :p ......:

I don't define this as hard times just in case I was about to be made fun of ;)
 
greekhookup said:
i dont think it is the clomid so much as it is the person who takes it...what i mean is that someone can think they are emotionally stable when inreality others know that you may have psychological issues, then taking hormones ontop of those psychological issues only confuses your brain and causes many unwanted effects, thus this results in the suicidal thoughts or become someone you really arnt due to the hormones

Who are you, Sigmund Retard? :evil:

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oatsandgrains said:
I got really weird on clomid. It made me think like an emotionally unstable girl. Us burley men aren't used to that crap! One time some girls at work were passing notes to eacother and I actually got upset that nobody passed me one! Holy crap I was messed :p ......Good thing I never lost my girlfriend or anything cause who knows what kind of dumb shit I would have done if I wasn't getting laid. I made it a point of telling her I might get a little weird for a while while I was on clomid and she was cool with it.

Clomid and hard times do not mix well. :insane:


hahaha, mr sensitivity.

The shit made me emotional too. I remember watching chick flicks with this one girl and feeling teary eyed.
 
hisback said:
Okay guys n gals, it may very well be the be all and end all of recovery programs but ive came across far too many incidences of the detrimental effects of clomid, the bottom line is that it either works for you or it doesnt, unfortunately the doesnt part is fraught with controversy, IT CAN MAKE SOME PEOPLE CRAZY, i know of people who have had suicidal/homicidal thoughts whilst using clomid, i know of someone who was a pretty stable guy until he hit clomid and took his own life, now im sick of the fannying about with this subject, its time people put their cards on the table, and regardless of what "other" people might think this is a life or death issue, we dont have to lie down and say but thats all we have, there are plenty of good - better alternatives to clomid, if you have had ANY negative effects whilst on clomid, let me know, post it for everyone to see.

H


I've never been on clomid for an extended period of time, but I do notice when I am on even 50MG ed, I tend to act like a petulant child, lashing out like a vengeful bitch on the rebound. Clomid turns grown me in to Presyn PMS bitches.




DIV

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DIVISION said:
I've never been on clomid for an extended period of time, but I do notice when I am on even 50MG ed, I tend to act like a petulant child, lashing out like a vengeful bitch on the rebound. Clomid turns grown me in to Presyn PMS bitches.




DIV

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so that means you're on clomid right now? :p
 
in addition to feeling intensely jealous (for example, I was ready to puke thinking about my wife's sexual behavior in high school, ten years before we even knew each other), I got horrible acne during PCT, presumably from Clomid. Several months later, I still have really bad acne on my shoulders and chest. I'm starting to wonder if the acne is here to stay. what the fuck?
 
LVTitan said:
i hate to correct satchsquatch, but it's spelled effective for future reference..fyi

dude, if you correct spelling on this board, you will never be finished. I love all you fuckers but God damn most of you can't spell.
 
daemian said:
dude, if you correct spelling on this board, you will never be finished. I love all you fuckers but God damn most of you can't spell.

Word is bond, babyDae.....

From the looks of it, most of these kids came up short on GED also....

Some of the shit I see here horrifies and sickens me.....and I'm an ARMY grunt for fucksake! :rolleyes:



DIV

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DIVISION said:
Takin' a break, lettin' kids settle down.......

You understand I'm sure.




DIV

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I understand...
Have a good Christmas, lil'babyDivnuggaPimp ;)
:santa2:
 
This might sound weird, but I got fucking violent on clomid. Starting to look for trouble, u might say- and I have never been like that at all. Maybe it's the aftereffects of my 1'st cure with aas (deca/dbol), but I wasn't like that when on aas, after doing clomid I feel a certain change in my personality- not necessarily negative tho.. I dunno, but that's what have happened to me. Strange?:evil:
 
SpiritCrusher said:
This might sound weird, but I got fucking violent on clomid. Starting to look for trouble, u might say- and I have never been like that at all. Maybe it's the aftereffects of my 1'st cure with aas (deca/dbol), but I wasn't like that when on aas, after doing clomid I feel a certain change in my personality- not necessarily negative tho.. I dunno, but that's what have happened to me. Strange?:evil:

Not really, TeenSpirit.

The clomid cause the moodiness and irritability and that feuled by your increased testosterone levels caused you to act like a real asshole.

I know, I do this on a daily basis.




DIV

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benny1970 said:
If you -don't- have HCG on hand, will Nova actually do the job on its own for PCT? Or do you need the clomid?

Bump for a good question.

I've wondered this too. I recently heard one theory stating that Clomid does not directly increase LH or FSH. Instead, it works as an estrogen blocker like Nolva and hinders any negative inhibitory feedback brought on by estrogen after a cycle. This is a crappy way of saying it suppresses the estrogen that is counter-productive to proper test function. Block estrogen; LH and FSH will do their thing and produce more test. On to PCT recovery.

If this is true (some of you might flame me for even putting stock in such an idea), then YES, nolvadex alone would have a similar (not necessarily as profound) effect. But FTR, I've never heard anyone on this board complain of the same sides and problems with Nolvadex as they experienced with Clomid. Case in point? This very thread...

-e
 
Lets NOT FORGET that when most of you guys are getting all these "emotional sides from clomid" that you are coming OFF CYCLE and thus your hormonal fluctuations are having a HUGE impact on your mood (Its not necessarily the clomid...:o)
I think that needs to be remembered when factoring in your thoughts on clomid...

When your androgen levels go from 5-10x their normal range (while on), to nearly zero when coming off it can have a DRAMATIC impact on your overall well being...:(

For me I run Clomid the ENTIRE time between my cycles and never have anything too overly dramatic (not enough to justify discontinuing its usage anyway...:o )
 
The Terminator said:
For me I run Clomid the ENTIRE time between my cycles and never have anything too overly dramatic (not enough to justify discontinuing its usage anyway...:o )

^^^Cuthbert told me a different story......something about you wanting her to do an A2M facial and upon refusing you threw a fucking fit! :eek2:

poor lil' Cuthbert...... :worried:




DIV

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DIVISION said:
^^^Cuthbert told me a different story......something about you wanting her to do an A2M facial and upon refusing you threw a fucking fit! :eek2:

poor lil' Cuthbert...... :worried:


I would only do something like that to a girl I have NO emotional ties to....Cuthbert does NOT fit into that category :worried:
 
The Terminator said:
I would only do something like that to a girl I have NO emotional ties to....Cuthbert does NOT fit into that category :worried:

How can you possibly have any emotional ties to someone you've never met or fucked? :confused:

Put the pieces to the puzzle, baby Termie.



DIV

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SpiritCrusher said:
This might sound weird, but I got fucking violent on clomid. Starting to look for trouble, u might say- and I have never been like that at all. Maybe it's the aftereffects of my 1'st cure with aas (deca/dbol), but I wasn't like that when on aas, after doing clomid I feel a certain change in my personality- not necessarily negative tho.. I dunno, but that's what have happened to me. Strange?:evil:

I turn into a complete pyshopath on clomid, Ive got into trouble with the law 3 times on it. Never had roid rage, but clomid rage is uncontrollable for me. It's like a jekyl and hide thing.
Ive seen this happen to my old training partner too. Crazy.
 
LVTitan said:
yes i was on clomid/nolva pct 2 weeks ago, about 3 weeks into it, and i almost offed myself dec 11,, man it was rough !! i never get emotional to that extent over a bitch, but i spent all day at work thinking about it, told my ex i was done w/life, fortunately she still loves me enough to call my brother and he was at my house when i got home and calmed me down. if he wasnt there, i might have gone thru with it... CLOMID was NO GOOD for me .. i'm done with that shit!!!!

I went through the same circumstances during the Fall of 2003 when I was running Clomid for PCT. I was a fucking monster: homocidal, suicidal, etc,... still don't know how I made it out of that alive.

I'll never even consider Clomid again.
 
hisback said:
Okay guys n gals, it may very well be the be all and end all of recovery programs but ive came across far too many incidences of the detrimental effects of clomid, the bottom line is that it either works for you or it doesnt, unfortunately the doesnt part is fraught with controversy, IT CAN MAKE SOME PEOPLE CRAZY, i know of people who have had suicidal/homicidal thoughts whilst using clomid, i know of someone who was a pretty stable guy until he hit clomid and took his own life, now im sick of the fannying about with this subject, its time people put their cards on the table, and regardless of what "other" people might think this is a life or death issue, we dont have to lie down and say but thats all we have, there are plenty of good - better alternatives to clomid, if you have had ANY negative effects whilst on clomid, let me know, post it for everyone to see.

H

Another reason AAS and its users have such bullshit bad press. Are you kidding me with this? You must still be on it because you're wining like a little bitch who is starved for attention.
Okay some hate Clomid sides, it can SOMETIMES make people more emotional or make them feel depressed. Just like Tren can make some people sweat and Winny can make some people's joints sore.

I just had a revalation..........IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT AND EXPERIENCE NEGATIVE SIDES, DON'T FUCKING USE IT, USE SOMETHING ELSE!....Wow, I'm so smart and knowledgable about this, I should be a Mod.
 
slyder190 said:
Another reason AAS and its users have such bullshit bad press. Are you kidding me with this? You must still be on it because you're wining like a little bitch who is starved for attention.
Okay some hate Clomid sides, it can SOMETIMES make people more emotional or make them feel depressed. Just like Tren can make some people sweat and Winny can make some people's joints sore.

I just had a revalation..........IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT AND EXPERIENCE NEGATIVE SIDES, DON'T FUCKING USE IT, USE SOMETHING ELSE!....Wow, I'm so smart and knowledgable about this, I should be a Mod.


What the fuck is your problem?
The point being made is clomid sides can be very harsh mentally, worse than gear, yet it's recommended in PCT as if its nothing.
Nothing wrong in making people aware of how bad it can be.
Especially when there are alternatives which work just as well.
 
I'm gonna have to go with Term on this one. Hormone levels go through quite a change after cycles. I too think that clomid may not be the only culprit. Someone needs to take clomid without taking gear to know for sure though! There may be more obvious factors than the PCT here.
 
daemian said:
dude, if you correct spelling on this board, you will never be finished. I love all you fuckers but God damn most of you can't spell.

who cares if they mispell..
as long as the message gets across.

i got my money most dont bother doin a spelling check but are very literate.
like me :qt:
 
The only effects i get from clomid are when i first started, i was watching a movie and for some reason started tearing up....ghey i know...i also seem to see tracers while on clomid, which isn't really that bad most of the time :D

Mike
 
slyder190 said:
Another reason AAS and its users have such bullshit bad press. Are you kidding me with this? You must still be on it because you're wining like a little bitch who is starved for attention.
Okay some hate Clomid sides, it can SOMETIMES make people more emotional or make them feel depressed. Just like Tren can make some people sweat and Winny can make some people's joints sore.

I just had a revalation..........IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT AND EXPERIENCE NEGATIVE SIDES, DON'T FUCKING USE IT, USE SOMETHING ELSE!....Wow, I'm so smart and knowledgable about this, I should be a Mod.

Bro ease up on the reply there. This thread is legit and simply pointing out some of the bad experiences associated with clomid use. No need to be resorting to childish name calling. The many personal experiences we have in this thread alone about suicidal thoughts whilst on clomid can be helpful for the novice juicer researching pct.
 
greekhookup said:
i dont think it is the clomid so much as it is the person who takes it...what i mean is that someone can think they are emotionally stable when inreality others know that you may have psychological issues, then taking hormones ontop of those psychological issues only confuses your brain and causes many unwanted effects, thus this results in the suicidal thoughts or become someone you really arnt due to the hormones

Word!
 
The Terminator said:
Lets NOT FORGET that when most of you guys are getting all these "emotional sides from clomid" that you are coming OFF CYCLE and thus your hormonal fluctuations are having a HUGE impact on your mood (Its not necessarily the clomid...:o)
I think that needs to be remembered when factoring in your thoughts on clomid...

When your androgen levels go from 5-10x their normal range (while on), to nearly zero when coming off it can have a DRAMATIC impact on your overall well being...:(

For me I run Clomid the ENTIRE time between my cycles and never have anything too overly dramatic (not enough to justify discontinuing its usage anyway...:o )


I'm quoting MY OWN THOUGHTS on this for those who may have missed it :)
 
chlomid doesn't bother me in the way that some of you have mentioned. Heck, I don't really notice much difference in mood... but just me though

Whiskey
 
slyder190 said:
Another reason AAS and its users have such bullshit bad press. Are you kidding me with this? You must still be on it because you're wining like a little bitch who is starved for attention.
Okay some hate Clomid sides, it can SOMETIMES make people more emotional or make them feel depressed. Just like Tren can make some people sweat and Winny can make some people's joints sore.

I just had a revalation..........IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT AND EXPERIENCE NEGATIVE SIDES, DON'T FUCKING USE IT, USE SOMETHING ELSE!....Wow, I'm so smart and knowledgable about this, I should be a Mod.

Now now dont be a petulant little man, yes of course your smart AND knowledgeable too, just spelt it wrong is all. oh and im not a lil bitch , im a BIG bitch!! Are you on clomid right now?
 
Mikus said:
The only effects i get from clomid are when i first started, i was watching a movie and for some reason started tearing up....ghey i know...i also seem to see tracers while on clomid, which isn't really that bad most of the time :D

Mike
yeah i saw the tracers too, weird i thought i took some acid !! i thought it was the nolva cause i heard nolva fucks with your vision..
 
Lets NOT FORGET that when most of you guys are getting all these "emotional sides from clomid" that you are coming OFF CYCLE and thus your hormonal fluctuations are having a HUGE impact on your mood (Its not necessarily the clomid...)
I think that needs to be remembered when factoring in your thoughts on clomid...

When your androgen levels go from 5-10x their normal range (while on), to nearly zero when coming off it can have a DRAMATIC impact on your overall well being...

I used to agree with this point of view but now I think its definitely the clomid. I was on it for 4 weeks recently and have just came off. While on clomid I was extremely moody and frequently sad. I thought that my testosterone levels were still low maybe. But a few days after I got off the clomid, I feel great.

What do think causes the Clomid emotionality sides. Effective low estrogen?
 
hisback said:
Now now dont be a petulant little man, yes of course your smart AND knowledgeable too, just spelt it wrong is all. oh and im not a lil bitch , im a BIG bitch!! Are you on clomid right now?

LOL. Sorry to jump down your throat. Just sounded you like you were starting one of those threads complaining again about Clomid and how it makes people wanna kill themselves. Sorry to call you a lil bitch. You're a big bitch. :) Not on Clomid right now myself, no. But when I am, I won't be posting threads on the mental side effects. I'll be sittin back watchin the night-time laser light show as part of the physical effects. :p
 
The Terminator said:
Lets NOT FORGET that when most of you guys are getting all these "emotional sides from clomid" that you are coming OFF CYCLE and thus your hormonal fluctuations are having a HUGE impact on your mood (Its not necessarily the clomid...:o)
I think that needs to be remembered when factoring in your thoughts on clomid...

When your androgen levels go from 5-10x their normal range (while on), to nearly zero when coming off it can have a DRAMATIC impact on your overall well being...:(

For me I run Clomid the ENTIRE time between my cycles and never have anything too overly dramatic (not enough to justify discontinuing its usage anyway...:o )
My thoughts as well. Since the thread starter is alos in the process of creating a new PCT product I am further skepticle of his comments. While I do agreee clomid can cause moodiness, this is the 1st time I have heard of anyone blaming it for someone to commit suicide. Often times those with the most mental baggage are the ones who outwardly appear to be in the most control. People that unstable should not be cycling to begin with in my opinion, but often times you never know until its too late.
 
Zyglamail said:
My thoughts as well. Since the thread starter is alos in the process of creating a new PCT product I am further skepticle of his comments. While I do agreee clomid can cause moodiness, this is the 1st time I have heard of anyone blaming it for someone to commit suicide. Often times those with the most mental baggage are the ones who outwardly appear to be in the most control. People that unstable should not be cycling to begin with in my opinion, but often times you never know until its too late.

If you had read the thread on the PCT im working on you might have noticed that i said i would be including clomid or Nolv or BOTH! I wanted to guage how widespread the clomid issue was and with that make an informed decision as to whether to include it or not, thats what we do in scientific trials, If during the trials i find that clomid is an issue then i wont use it, afterall if people want to continue to take it they should have an informed choice also and far be it for me to undermine other peoples opinions, we all have free will, and that includes the freedom to post if you have had a problem with clomid, that is what this thread was about, or was it about rubbishing peoples ideas, the only certainty in life is change, its a shame so many are so scared of it.

H
 
I don't know about suicidal but I do know that the two times I used it I turned into a bitch. I was a fuckin pussy. Totally afraid of confrontation or yelling of any kind. Shit, I rarely left my house for two weeks, except to go to work, and the gym. I went to the gym after it was closed to the public because I didn't want to see anybody. I will never use it again. I'll close with one more thing, it made me so emotional that when I saw a kitten outside my house wandering the street, I worried all day about how the damn cat was going to survive! Later on I felt so bad I actually cried!! Fucking ridiculous. I couldn't believe myself. NEVER AGAIN! Laugh all you want but at least I can admit what happened.
 
All I got from clomids was some huge money shots and some acne on my back. That's it. Never felt like a bitch. But again, I'm not running heavy cycles.
 
slyder190 said:
LOL. Sorry to jump down your throat. Just sounded you like you were starting one of those threads complaining again about Clomid and how it makes people wanna kill themselves. Sorry to call you a lil bitch. You're a big bitch. :) Not on Clomid right now myself, no. But when I am, I won't be posting threads on the mental side effects. I'll be sittin back watchin the night-time laser light show as part of the physical effects. :p


No problem Bro

Peace

H
 
Zyglamail said:
My thoughts as well. Since the thread starter is alos in the process of creating a new PCT product I am further skepticle of his comments. While I do agreee clomid can cause moodiness, this is the 1st time I have heard of anyone blaming it for someone to commit suicide. Often times those with the most mental baggage are the ones who outwardly appear to be in the most control. People that unstable should not be cycling to begin with in my opinion, but often times you never know until its too late.
bullshit. i am the jolliest mother fucker you will ever meet. always the life of the party, always in a good mood, and you can count me to make any bitch smile... no emotional / psychological baggage.. took clomid, it ruined my relationship and i almost killed myself. been off clomid 2 weeks and im jolly again.. not everyone is the same, but dont say only psychos respond bad to clomid.
 
hisback said:
If you had read the thread on the PCT im working on you might have noticed that i said i would be including clomid or Nolv or BOTH! I wanted to guage how widespread the clomid issue was and with that make an informed decision as to whether to include it or not, thats what we do in scientific trials, If during the trials i find that clomid is an issue then i wont use it, afterall if people want to continue to take it they should have an informed choice also and far be it for me to undermine other peoples opinions, we all have free will, and that includes the freedom to post if you have had a problem with clomid, that is what this thread was about, or was it about rubbishing peoples ideas, the only certainty in life is change, its a shame so many are so scared of it.

H
The mood swings some people have while on clomid are no secret and there are a lot of comments about it here on Elite. The post that started this thread sure did not come across solely as one designed to gain information in regards to peoples impressions of clomid, it came across more as a means to scare people away from using it and as a way for you to build a mailing/notification list. If your so concerned about "science" then why preface you post with a horror story? Thats far from scientific approach in my eyes. As for me rubbishing your ideas, its hard not to when when you start to bash other substances that would compete with yours. If you want peoples honest answers then present questions in an unbiased fashion right from the start.

P.S. Some of your posts have been borderline advertising which is against the TOS.
 
Okay, maybe 2 pills, we have a split decision, look it was never my intention to DISS peoples use of clomid, i was aware of its negative side and wanted to find out more, is ma bad? I think not! Maybe ill produce a clomid version and a none-clomid version, do a closely monitored trial and see what happens, no matter what the single medical model for all states we are all very different both psycholigically and physiologically, we need to test things before making any great grandeurous claims.

H
 
androjunkie said:
I don't know about suicidal but I do know that the two times I used it I turned into a bitch. I was a fuckin pussy. Totally afraid of confrontation or yelling of any kind. Shit, I rarely left my house for two weeks, except to go to work, and the gym. I went to the gym after it was closed to the public because I didn't want to see anybody. I will never use it again. I'll close with one more thing, it made me so emotional that when I saw a kitten outside my house wandering the street, I worried all day about how the damn cat was going to survive! Later on I felt so bad I actually cried!! Fucking ridiculous. I couldn't believe myself. NEVER AGAIN! Laugh all you want but at least I can admit what happened.

The sad part is I actually know what you are talking about.....haha!
I can't believe people think that steroids turn us into assholes with no care for anything....... I'm sorry I just read what you wrote again and I laughed at your expense. No hard feelings. Admit it, you'd laugh at me too.
 
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Originally Posted by androjunkie
I don't know about suicidal but I do know that the two times I used it I turned into a bitch. I was a fuckin pussy. Totally afraid of confrontation or yelling of any kind. Shit, I rarely left my house for two weeks, except to go to work, and the gym. I went to the gym after it was closed to the public because I didn't want to see anybody. I will never use it again. I'll close with one more thing, it made me so emotional that when I saw a kitten outside my house wandering the street, I worried all day about how the damn cat was going to survive! Later on I felt so bad I actually cried!! Fucking ridiculous. I couldn't believe myself. NEVER AGAIN! Laugh all you want but at least I can admit what happened.



Well at least I know what to do if clomid ever makes me feel depressed. I just gotta look at your post and it will cheer me up. They say a good laugh will brighten one's mood. No hard feeling bro, but that cat thing is some funny shit.
 
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Zyglamail said:
The mood swings some people have while on clomid are no secret and there are a lot of comments about it here on Elite. The post that started this thread sure did not come across solely as one designed to gain information in regards to peoples impressions of clomid, it came across more as a means to scare people away from using it and as a way for you to build a mailing/notification list. If your so concerned about "science" then why preface you post with a horror story? Thats far from scientific approach in my eyes. As for me rubbishing your ideas, its hard not to when when you start to bash other substances that would compete with yours. If you want peoples honest answers then present questions in an unbiased fashion right from the start.

P.S. Some of your posts have been borderline advertising which is against the TOS.

Firstly, Zyglamail i think your P.S. is sad, if you cant argue a point intelligently you delete it right!? is that basically what your saying? DID YOU READ MY POSTS PROPERLY, there is NO competition, I am NOT rubbishing Clomid, but people are allowed their opinion and if it takes someone with a bit off balls to stand up and say HEY WAIT A MINUTE just because SOME people use and have no problems with this - I DO, and please note - OTHER PEOPLE DO!!! I thought thats what YOUR country was all about FREEDOM OF SPEACH, I have never directly advertised ANYTHING, the people who have posted on this thread have serious concerns about clomid, just because YOU dont doesnt mean everyone has to fall in line, other people have their experiences, is that okay?. In fact to be honest I dont care about MY product, I care about the health of people who take steroids, LIKE ME, all I am doing is trying to HELP everyone, that includes you if you werent so blinkered, I can tell you for a fact, that everyone who has signed up with me will NEVER be out of pocket for this product, and plaes dont diss me about science, i would say more but you might delete my post or ban me maybe, that wouldnt accomplish anything accept selfgratification, afterall it would be easier wouldnt it? since your arguement is not exactly compelling.

H
 
I get some acne from it. A little blury vision at times. Slightly emotional too. It does what I need it to do though...
 
slat1 said:
I get some acne from it. A little blury vision at times. Slightly emotional too. It does what I need it to do though.

Thats cool bro, it works for some and doesnt for others thats all i meant, Jesus are we allowed to speak around here, thank man.

peace



H :worried:
 
hisback said:
Firstly, Zyglamail i think your P.S. is sad, if you cant argue a point intelligently you delete it right!? is that basically what your saying? DID YOU READ MY POSTS PROPERLY, there is NO competition, I am NOT rubbishing Clomid, but people are allowed their opinion and if it takes someone with a bit off balls to stand up and say HEY WAIT A MINUTE just because SOME people use and have no problems with this - I DO, and please note - OTHER PEOPLE DO!!! I thought thats what YOUR country was all about FREEDOM OF SPEACH, I have never directly advertised ANYTHING, the people who have posted on this thread have serious concerns about clomid, just because YOU dont doesnt mean everyone has to fall in line, other people have their experiences, is that okay?. In fact to be honest I dont care about MY product, I care about the health of people who take steroids, LIKE ME, all I am doing is trying to HELP everyone, that includes you if you werent so blinkered, I can tell you for a fact, that everyone who has signed up with me will NEVER be out of pocket for this product, and plaes dont diss me about science, i would say more but you might delete my post or ban me maybe, that wouldnt accomplish anything accept selfgratification, afterall it would be easier wouldnt it? since your arguement is not exactly compelling.

H
First off, dont flatter yourself by thinking I am the one deleting and moving your posts because I am not. You presume to know whats going on but you do not so until you do perhaps you should withhold judgement.

As for my P.S, when you registered for this site you areed to those terms, it was all right there in writing. You have another post on this site trolling for test subjects and in a round about way advertising for a product that may or may not work. Weather they are paying or not it can be construed as advertising, if you have a problem with that take it up with George. Next, you sputter on about free speach in the USA and while speach itself is free, bandwidth is not and thus we have supporting vendors, rules and moderators on this site.

As for you saying more about science, please rattle on. You will find that if you can keep your name calling to a minimum and converse with some modicum of decency you can say quite a bit without repercusions. You see, its not what you say so much as how you say it. We have had a lot of very intelligent people pass through over the years, often they have unique and off the wall ideas that others frown on. Beleive it or not I have been involved in supporting some of these off the wall ideas in the face of much opposition, so perhaps you shouldnt be so quick to judge. As for selfgratification in banning you, there would be no such reward, you havent done anything to me to make your absence a gratifying one, but I have noticed many of your posts in the "recycle bin" which does lead me to beleive that your posts warrant watching because they are either off topic, against the rules or simply in bad taste. When a member becomes more work to watch then they are worth is when they start to get in trouble. In other words when their input and membership to the community is overshadowed by their negative comments and such, thats when they get banned.
 
Zyglamail said:
First off, dont flatter yourself by thinking I am the one deleting and moving your posts because I am not. You presume to know whats going on but you do not so until you do perhaps you should withhold judgement.

As for my P.S, when you registered for this site you areed to those terms, it was all right there in writing. You have another post on this site trolling for test subjects and in a round about way advertising for a product that may or may not work. Weather they are paying or not it can be construed as advertising, if you have a problem with that take it up with George. Next, you sputter on about free speach in the USA and while speach itself is free, bandwidth is not and thus we have supporting vendors, rules and moderators on this site.

As for you saying more about science, please rattle on. You will find that if you can keep your name calling to a minimum and converse with some modicum of decency you can say quite a bit without repercusions. You see, its not what you say so much as how you say it. We have had a lot of very intelligent people pass through over the years, often they have unique and off the wall ideas that others frown on. Beleive it or not I have been involved in supporting some of these off the wall ideas in the face of much opposition, so perhaps you shouldnt be so quick to judge. As for selfgratification in banning you, there would be no such reward, you havent done anything to me to make your absence a gratifying one, but I have noticed many of your posts in the "recycle bin" which does lead me to beleive that your posts warrant watching because they are either off topic, against the rules or simply in bad taste. When a member becomes more work to watch then they are worth is when they start to get in trouble. In other words when their input and membership to the community is overshadowed by their negative comments and such, thats when they get banned.


All points noted and understood, i can see your point, i can also see how sometimes the way i put things might come accross the wrong way, it was never my intention and I apologise to all who may have been offended.

peace

H
 
H-isBack said:
Okay guys n gals, it may very well be the be all and end all of recovery programs but ive came across far too many incidences of the detrimental effects of clomid, the bottom line is that it either works for you or it doesnt, unfortunately the doesnt part is fraught with controversy, IT CAN MAKE SOME PEOPLE CRAZY, i know of people who have had suicidal/homicidal thoughts whilst using clomid, i know of someone who was a pretty stable guy until he hit clomid and took his own life, now im sick of the fannying about with this subject, its time people put their cards on the table, and regardless of what "other" people might think this is a life or death issue, we dont have to lie down and say but thats all we have, there are plenty of good - better alternatives to clomid, if you have had ANY negative effects whilst on clomid, let me know, post it for everyone to see.

H


That happens when somebody abuse a medication. You read everywhere for PCT take 4-5 pills 50mg every day and for 2 weeks, different doses, different plans. Newbies and Pro go ahead and take those doses as part of a PCT. But anyone know really how much overdose of that substance is taking? Anyone know what is the real medical purpose of that drug? Anyone has read about the side effects before using it? The answer to those questions is NO. So we go again to the fact that everybody reacts different and is each one responsibility to hear and feel the body with lower doses first. Doing what other says without making sure it is safe, it's dumb.
 
manny78 said:
All I got from clomids was some huge money shots and some acne on my back. That's it. Never felt like a bitch. But again, I'm not running heavy cycles.


Im just now taking it. Im taking a liqued and it taste hell nasty any idea how to make it taste not so bad.
 
tahoe2003 said:
Im just now taking it. Im taking a liqued and it taste hell nasty any idea how to make it taste not so bad.
yeah squirt the dropper into like 6oz of OJ or your next protein drink.
 
I've been on clomid and Nolva for 2 weeks now. I have been a miserable wreck the whole time. Clomid always does this to me to a certain extent but this time is the worst. I have even made some posts here on elite asking about anxiety and how people are dealing with it. Also I am having drama with a girl, so that aint helpin at all. I also feel like i am still extremely shut down from my fina test dbol cycle. Im not horny like i usually am, and my dick just aint his normal self.
Next time a may just try Nov and some OTC stuff to get my boys back. I cant deal with all this drama especially around the holidays.
 
tybz28-#2 said:
I've been on clomid and Nolva for 2 weeks now. I have been a miserable wreck the whole time. Clomid always does this to me to a certain extent but this time is the worst. I have even made some posts here on elite asking about anxiety and how people are dealing with it. Also I am having drama with a girl, so that aint helpin at all. I also feel like i am still extremely shut down from my fina test dbol cycle. Im not horny like i usually am, and my dick just aint his normal self.
Next time a may just try Nov and some OTC stuff to get my boys back. I cant deal with all this drama especially around the holidays.
Hey Bro i completely relate, just leave out the clomid, and try some trib and yoh to bring the boys back.


H
 
oatsandgrains said:
The sad part is I actually know what you are talking about.....haha!
I can't believe people think that steroids turn us into assholes with no care for anything....... I'm sorry I just read what you wrote again and I laughed at your expense. No hard feelings. Admit it, you'd laugh at me too.


No hard feelings at all bro, afterall with a name like oats and grains how could i be offended, you know you mouth off F**** B****** C**** ETC and you go away with a sig like oats and grains F^^^ O^^ A^^H^^^ blah blah!
 
Can you see from this thread what they have dont to me!? I paid good money for a PLAT membership and they have taken it away from me becase i something to say, its sad in a so called democratic world we "civilised" human beings live in.

its not worth it so i will stay an "ordinary member" if im allowed of course

H
 
wutangnomo said:
Bro ease up on the reply there. This thread is legit and simply pointing out some of the bad experiences associated with clomid use. No need to be resorting to childish name calling. The many personal experiences we have in this thread alone about suicidal thoughts whilst on clomid can be helpful for the novice juicer researching pct.


Hell, yeah. I second that. I'm as novice as they get, but I'm soaking up info like crazy. This thread spoke directly to me. My question now is, if Clomid does affect someone adversely, can it be controlled by trying hard at all times to remain balanced and normal? My girl(soon to be ex- , maybe) turns into a cross between Hussein and Satan's nastier, foul-mouthed bitch of a sister once a month.
1. I always feel that she could control those emotions if she wanted to; hormones couldn't MAKE you say something you didn't want to say anyway, right?
2. If I have a bad react from Clomid, and she's having "that time" during the same week, is it likely something very bad might happen? That would go against what I've been saying all this time; that you can control yourself no matter what your hormones tell you.
 
Clomid and Nolva, no.
Clomid is far superior to Nolva for PCT purposes. I do believe however that people use WAY too much clomid for PCT. I have seen people post that they used 300mg the first day and 100mg for two weeks thereafter. That's crazy. It has a half life of 5 days and it's still present 6 weeks after you take it. There is no arguing the emotional effects it may cause both men and women who use it, but most of the time that's due to people using more than they need.

If you become too emotional using Clomid then use Nolva and HCG. If not then Clomid is much more effective.
 
when will people ever learn that clomid doesnt make you depressed, emotional ect...its the amount of androgens leaving your body post cycle
 
tybz28-#2 said:
I've been on clomid and Nolva for 2 weeks now. I have been a miserable wreck the whole time. Clomid always does this to me to a certain extent but this time is the worst. I have even made some posts here on elite asking about anxiety and how people are dealing with it. Also I am having drama with a girl, so that aint helpin at all. I also feel like i am still extremely shut down from my fina test dbol cycle. Im not horny like i usually am, and my dick just aint his normal self.
Next time a may just try Nov and some OTC stuff to get my boys back. I cant deal with all this drama especially around the holidays.
I have used Clomid in the past and have gotten sides but nothing major I have also have tried 6oxo and worked really good but pricey!! and you need to take alot but was worth it. I mean when I took Clomid I didnt even wanted to work out,plus school was stressing me out like a mofo!!! it got to a point I wanted to beat the shit out of my Chinese Business Calculus teacher lol!!(not really) but for real check out other alternatives!!
 
Its not an internet myth. I have taken clomid by itself when my test levels were recovered just to see if it would cause any depression and got me depressed as hell within the very first day. Its no placebo effect thats for sure. Clomid is depression in a pill .
 
again i think its user dependant. ive used it (ip) lol and didnt suffer in that way, but the majority of the users post that they get horny ect.
 
Patrick Steele said:
Its not an internet myth. I have taken clomid by itself when my test levels were recovered just to see if it would cause any depression and got me depressed as hell within the very first day. Its no placebo effect thats for sure. Clomid is depression in a pill .


Thank you Patric, i was hoping youd find his thread as an experieced user of clomid, i had similar results from it so i steer clear of it totally, since stopping it ive never had any problems.
H
 
J Obstet Gynecol Neonatal Nurs. 1991 Jul-Aug;20(4):321-7.

Clomiphene-induced mood swings.

Blenner JL.

School of Nursing, San Diego State University, CA 92182-0254.

A study of couples' perceptions of infertility treatment with clomiphene (clomiphene citrate) revealed mood swings in 9 out of 14 women using the drug. This paper describes the mood swings and the responses of women and their spouses. Three phases of mood swing response emerged from the data: lacking awareness of the relation of the mood swings to the drug; gaining awareness of that relation; and managing the mood swings. The results of the study provide important information for nurses counseling couples who are experiencing clomiphene-induced mood swings.

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Am J Psychiatry. 1997 Aug;154(8):1169-70.

Clomiphene-induced psychosis.

Oyffe I, Lerner A, Isaacs G, Harel Y, Sigal M.

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Can Med Assoc J. 1982 Jan 15;126(2):118.

Clomiphene citrate as a possible cause of psychosis.

Cashman FE, Sheppard R.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

Clomiphene citrate as a possible cause of a psychotic reaction during infertility treatment
F Siedentopf, B Horstkamp, G Stief and H Kentenich
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, DRK-Kliniken Westend, Berlin, Germany.

Secondary side-effects often occur in women undergoing hormonal stimulation treatment with clomiphene citrate. In general 10.4% of women experience hot flushing, 5.5% have complaints caused by enlargement of the ovaries and 3.5% experience central nervous symptoms (nervousness, sleeplessness, headaches, visual disturbances, vertigo). During ovarian stimulation with clomiphene citrate for in-vitro fertilization, a 32 year old patient developed psychotic symptoms, commencing 3 days after initiation of treatment. Hospitalization in the psychiatric ward became necessary when severe formal and rational thought disturbances arose together with perceptory and sensory delusions. Under neuroleptic treatment the symptoms improved. Nevertheless, follow-up psychiatric care on an outpatient basis was deemed necessary. The infertility treatment was continued with human menopausal gonadotrophin stimulation. Psychiatric instability occurred neither at this point nor during the 2 year follow-up observation period. Both an exogenous psychosis (ICD F23.9) as well as the exacerbation of an endogenous psychosis (ICD F29) may be considered for the differential diagnosis. The stimulation with clomiphene citrate in connection with the physical and psychic stress of the infertility therapy can be regarded as the trigger factor. For patients with evidence of psychiatric illness in their case history, ovulation- inducing substances such as clomiphene citrate should be implemented with particular care.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------


From the FDA


SIDE EFFECTS

Clinical Events

Trial Adverse: Clomiphene citrate Tablets USP at recommended dosages, is generally well tolerated. Adverse reactions usually have been mild and transient and most have disappeared promptly after treatment has been discontinued.

Includes 495 patients whose reports may have been duplicated in the event totals and could not be distinguished as such. Also, excludes 47 patients who did not report symptom data.

The following adverse events have been reported in fewer than 1% of patients in clinical trails: Acute abdomen, appetite increase, constipation, dermatitis or rash, depression, diarrhea, dizziness, fatigue, hair loss/dry hair, increased urinary frequency/volume, insomnia, light-headedness, nervous tension, vaginal dryness, vertigo, weight gain/loss.

Patients on prolonged clomiphene citrate tablets USP therapy may show elevated serum levels of desmoschol. This is most likely due to a direct interference with cholesterols synthesis. However, the serum sterols in patients receiving the recommended dose of clomiphene citrate tablets USP are not significantly altered. Ovarian cancer has been infrequently reported in patients who have received fertility drugs. Infertility is a primary risk factor for ovarian cancer; however, epidemiology data suggest that prolonged use of clomiphene citrate tablets USP may increase the risk of a borderline or invasive ovarian tumor.

Postmarketing Adverse Events

The following adverse experiences were reported spontaneously with clomiphene citrate tablets USP. The cause and effect relationship of the listed events to the administration of clomiphene citrate tablets USP is not known.

Dermatologic: Acne, allergic reaction, erythema, erythema multiforme, erythema nodosum, hypertrichosis, pruritus.

Central Nervous System: Migraine headache, paresthesia, seizure, stroke, syncope.

Psychiatric: Anxiety irritability, mood changes, psychosis.
 
Clomid made me question my sexuality. It was really scary. I found myself crying to the season finaly of Sex and the City, and thought to myself ... "Am I gay?" ... lol.

This thread is hillarious. A bunch of peeps arguing with each other, all with fucked up outrageous amounts of hormones pumping through their blood or PCT drugs kicking in. Good times. :)
 
H-isBack said:
Can you see from this thread what they have dont to me!? I paid good money for a PLAT membership and they have taken it away from me becase i something to say, its sad in a so called democratic world we "civilised" human beings live in.

its not worth it so i will stay an "ordinary member" if im allowed of course

H
u expect us to believe this is hisback ?
 
DIVISION said:
I've never been on clomid for an extended period of time, but I do notice when I am on even 50MG ed, I tend to act like a petulant child, lashing out like a vengeful bitch on the rebound. Clomid turns grown me in to Presyn PMS bitches.
DIV

:chomp:

where you been division? good to see you back.
 
daemian said:
in addition to feeling intensely jealous (for example, I was ready to puke thinking about my wife's sexual behavior in high school, ten years before we even knew each other), I got horrible acne during PCT, presumably from Clomid. Several months later, I still have really bad acne on my shoulders and chest. I'm starting to wonder if the acne is here to stay. what the fuck?


ditto!

I had those feelings coming off a EQ/Proviron, but I used Nolva, WTF?
 
Ulter said:
J Obstet Gynecol Neonatal Nurs. 1991 Jul-Aug;20(4):321-7.

Clomiphene-induced mood swings.

Blenner JL.

School of Nursing, San Diego State University, CA 92182-0254.

A study of couples' perceptions of infertility treatment with clomiphene (clomiphene citrate) revealed mood swings in 9 out of 14 women using the drug. This paper describes the mood swings and the responses of women and their spouses. Three phases of mood swing response emerged from the data: lacking awareness of the relation of the mood swings to the drug; gaining awareness of that relation; and managing the mood swings. The results of the study provide important information for nurses counseling couples who are experiencing clomiphene-induced mood swings.

----------------------------------------------------------------
Am J Psychiatry. 1997 Aug;154(8):1169-70.

Clomiphene-induced psychosis.

Oyffe I, Lerner A, Isaacs G, Harel Y, Sigal M.

----------------------------------------------------------------

Can Med Assoc J. 1982 Jan 15;126(2):118.

Clomiphene citrate as a possible cause of psychosis.

Cashman FE, Sheppard R.

---------------------------------------------------------------------

Clomiphene citrate as a possible cause of a psychotic reaction during infertility treatment
F Siedentopf, B Horstkamp, G Stief and H Kentenich
Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, DRK-Kliniken Westend, Berlin, Germany.

Secondary side-effects often occur in women undergoing hormonal stimulation treatment with clomiphene citrate. In general 10.4% of women experience hot flushing, 5.5% have complaints caused by enlargement of the ovaries and 3.5% experience central nervous symptoms (nervousness, sleeplessness, headaches, visual disturbances, vertigo). During ovarian stimulation with clomiphene citrate for in-vitro fertilization, a 32 year old patient developed psychotic symptoms, commencing 3 days after initiation of treatment. Hospitalization in the psychiatric ward became necessary when severe formal and rational thought disturbances arose together with perceptory and sensory delusions. Under neuroleptic treatment the symptoms improved. Nevertheless, follow-up psychiatric care on an outpatient basis was deemed necessary. The infertility treatment was continued with human menopausal gonadotrophin stimulation. Psychiatric instability occurred neither at this point nor during the 2 year follow-up observation period. Both an exogenous psychosis (ICD F23.9) as well as the exacerbation of an endogenous psychosis (ICD F29) may be considered for the differential diagnosis. The stimulation with clomiphene citrate in connection with the physical and psychic stress of the infertility therapy can be regarded as the trigger factor. For patients with evidence of psychiatric illness in their case history, ovulation- inducing substances such as clomiphene citrate should be implemented with particular care.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------


From the FDA


SIDE EFFECTS

Clinical Events

Trial Adverse: Clomiphene citrate Tablets USP at recommended dosages, is generally well tolerated. Adverse reactions usually have been mild and transient and most have disappeared promptly after treatment has been discontinued.

Includes 495 patients whose reports may have been duplicated in the event totals and could not be distinguished as such. Also, excludes 47 patients who did not report symptom data.

The following adverse events have been reported in fewer than 1% of patients in clinical trails: Acute abdomen, appetite increase, constipation, dermatitis or rash, depression, diarrhea, dizziness, fatigue, hair loss/dry hair, increased urinary frequency/volume, insomnia, light-headedness, nervous tension, vaginal dryness, vertigo, weight gain/loss.

Patients on prolonged clomiphene citrate tablets USP therapy may show elevated serum levels of desmoschol. This is most likely due to a direct interference with cholesterols synthesis. However, the serum sterols in patients receiving the recommended dose of clomiphene citrate tablets USP are not significantly altered. Ovarian cancer has been infrequently reported in patients who have received fertility drugs. Infertility is a primary risk factor for ovarian cancer; however, epidemiology data suggest that prolonged use of clomiphene citrate tablets USP may increase the risk of a borderline or invasive ovarian tumor.

Postmarketing Adverse Events

The following adverse experiences were reported spontaneously with clomiphene citrate tablets USP. The cause and effect relationship of the listed events to the administration of clomiphene citrate tablets USP is not known.

Dermatologic: Acne, allergic reaction, erythema, erythema multiforme, erythema nodosum, hypertrichosis, pruritus.

Central Nervous System: Migraine headache, paresthesia, seizure, stroke, syncope.

Psychiatric: Anxiety irritability, mood changes, psychosis.

It would seem this post has some credibility afterall!!

H
 
geoboy said:
yup, clomid makes me an emotional little bitch, and I'm usually machine-like (according to various significant others).

when I was a kid, before puberty performed its testosterone magic, I remember crying myself to sleep for a week when my pet beagle got run over. the only adult time I ever felt the same way was when a clomid run coincided with a breakup with an ex. sucked bigtime, and I didnt know why I was reacting that way, so out of character. and she knew how busted up I was about it.

after I figured out it was the clomid, I almost called her to tell her "SEE BITCH, IT WAS THE CLOMID, NOT YOU, THAT WAS MAKING ME CRY". :-}

-

lmao
 
Thanks a lot for this thread guys. I've been considering throwing Clomid into my first cycle in 10 years, but have decided against it. I'm going through a divorce and have experienced psychosis from prolonged use of ephedrine, and fucking hate losing control like that.
 
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