OK - You win...........

[Becoming]

Actually, not entirely true......the body would much rather use carbs as it's primary source if available......many theories and diets prove this theory......I, on the other hand, am torn between whom and what to believe.....guess thats part of the learning process.........

I never said there wasn't a difference between fat and carbs... Hell there is even a difference between different fats and complex vs simple carbs- the point is it does not matter what kind of food they come in...

You worry too much about the minute details that you lose focus on the big picture...

I don't think you are advanced enough to worry about half the minor details you spend so much time considering... hell, you have 6 and 8 oz portions and everything, you are not dieting, you are trying to bulk... just cut off a hunk of meat and eat it...

 

[needsize]

I have a whey shake in milk, along with EFAs right before bed

 

[Dorian'sDisciple]

me too NS ..but i use casein.i even have another by the bed in case i wake up in the night...the price of obsession

 

[WalkingBeast]

AND, you got some chubbyness there too bro.....no big thang, but that was his point..........

Its all part of bulking. Try bulking on clean foods only and see what happens. Thought this thread was about admitting you were wrong? You mentioned my name as well. Just giving my input

 

[Dorian'sDisciple]

WB you are pretty strong ..i don't know how high you let your bf get..i'm not saying you won't gain some fat bulking..just that for a typical endo/meso eating sweets etc..will accelerate fat gain and leave you bulking less and cutting more bro.

 

[JKurz1]

Its all part of bulking. Try bulking on clean foods only and see what happens. Thought this thread was about admitting you were wrong? You mentioned my name as well. Just giving my input

Hey, bro..I value our opinion big time....I know you got your training down to a science and I like your routines....I just think you need some guidance (like me, just the other side of the spectrum) on your diet.......bulking does not have to equal getting fat.......True, it's certain that you will put on a little excess chub, but keeping it minimal is the key........I like to stay within 2-3%......

 

[needsize]

I planned on staying really lean this year while bulking, but it just didnt work out. I am at around 12% bodyfat, which isnt too bad, I can still see some abs. But as it turned out there was just no way I was going to gain any mass without some fat.

I'm starting to diet mid may, and I figure in 6 weeks I can drop to about 8% bodyfat, which is all I want right now. I want to maintain my mass as size is still my main priority

 

[JKurz1]

I planned on staying really lean this year while bulking, but it just didnt work out. I am at around 12% bodyfat, which isnt too bad, I can still see some abs. But as it turned out there was just no way I was going to gain any mass without some fat.

I'm starting to diet mid may, and I figure in 6 weeks I can drop to about 8% bodyfat, which is all I want right now. I want to maintain my mass as size is still my main priority

boy..never thought I'd see the day that ou were 12%......but, that aint bad at all....you still eating on the clock, or do you just graze all day........are you pretty seditary most of the day? Office job?

 

[Omegasox]

I planned on staying really lean this year while bulking, but it just didnt work out. I am at around 12% bodyfat, which isnt too bad, I can still see some abs. But as it turned out there was just no way I was going to gain any mass without some fat.

I'm starting to diet mid may, and I figure in 6 weeks I can drop to about 8% bodyfat, which is all I want right now. I want to maintain my mass as size is still my main priority

I'm sure you've posted it a million times, but could you throw together what kind of cutting diet you use. Would appreciate it.

 

[JKurz1]

I'm sure you've posted it a million times, but could you throw together what kind of cutting diet you use. Would appreciate it.

Get your own f-ing thread