ok lets here it! page or hendo

[cipherking]

cant believe hendo lost, he's so much better of a fighter, cant wait for shogun 2 beat forrest then get a title shot and destroy rampage

i dont understand why page dont get no love. the man is improving his game every time u see him.Every person he fights he beats them at their own game. cant u guys give credit when credit is due. I guess the white boys are still mad that he beat your golden boy not once but twice.

its a shame that a good impoving fighter cant get any respect. and i dont really like page, just respect his fight game.

 

[redsamurai]

us "white boys" huh?? lol. And alot of people here understood that there was a good chance Lidell get's his ass kicked, but I don't think many thought it would be in standup. I have to admit, that until the hendo fight..........I really wasn't that high on ramp because I was never that impressed with him in Pride. Watching shogun and vanderlei destroy him kind of made me think he was "just" under being a top tier fighter. I'm kind of reevaluating him now.........not that he dominated hendo, but he did win and most impressively he hung with hen on the ground and got some nice reversals I didn't think he had in him. But in all honesty, hen has been fighting over his natural weight class for some time now............so the real LHW's are coming in now and then we'll see. I think some of ramp's reversals on hen were because he's just so much stronger than not just hen, but most LHW's in general. Shogun and Vanderlei are here now though.............so we'll see. Ramp doesn't do well those brazilian guys. But you are right, he IS improving with every fight. I just saw him as a much stronger Tito clone..........but not anymore.

i dont understand why page dont get no love. the man is improving his game every time u see him.Every person he fights he beats them at their own game. cant u guys give credit when credit is due. I guess the white boys are still mad that he beat your golden boy not once but twice.

its a shame that a good impoving fighter cant get any respect. and i dont really like page, just respect his fight game.

 

[cipherking]

us "white boys" huh?? lol. And alot of people here understood that there was a good chance Lidell get's his ass kicked, but I don't think many thought it would be in standup. I have to admit, that until the hendo fight..........I really wasn't that high on ramp because I was never that impressed with him in Pride. Watching shogun and vanderlei destroy him kind of made me think he was "just" under being a top tier fighter. I'm kind of reevaluating him now.........not that he dominated hendo, but he did win and most impressively he hung with hen on the ground and got some nice reversals I didn't think he had in him. But in all honesty, hen has been fighting over his natural weight class for some time now............so the real LHW's are coming in now and then we'll see. I think some of ramp's reversals on hen were because he's just so much stronger than not just hen, but most LHW's in general. Shogun and Vanderlei are here now though.............so we'll see. Ramp doesn't do well those brazilian guys. But you are right, he IS improving with every fight. I just saw him as a much stronger Tito clone..........but not anymore.

I dont mean anything by the white boy comment. its just all my white friend make this stupid excuse that rampage got lucky and hes just a brawler when he beat chuck. they love chuck but ive never seen chuck submit anyone. Ive never seen anything from chuck but punching people out. If thats not a brawler then what the fuck is.lol I love the sport but if u cant look at a fighter for what skills he has instead of his color then how can we as a country get anywhere. Its just mind boggleing to me.

 

[redsamurai]

I dont mean anything by the white boy comment. its just all my white friend make this stupid excuse that rampage got lucky and hes just a brawler when he beat chuck. they love chuck but ive never seen chuck submit anyone. Ive never seen anything from chuck but punching people out. If thats not a brawler then what the fuck is.lol I love the sport but if u cant look at a fighter for what skills he has instead of his color then how can we as a country get anywhere. Its just mind boggleing to me.

I totally agree........very good point. I can see how after years of having boxing dominated by black guys who really weren't all that quality of people, some where, but most weren't........i guess it's nice to see some mohawked white boy throwing bombs and knocking EVERYBODY out. Rampage is a very very very decent guy............he's someone you could easily have a beer with and chill, probably have you pissing yourself after awhile. It's class that people have been waiting for for a long time...........they just have to realize that Ramp has it. And your points on Chuck are absolutely right on.........he's in the same boat as crocop is in now, ok not quite as bad........but both were dominant doing just standup. BOth are going to have to revamp their game or they're not going to be anything anymore. Vanderlei and shogun in the LHW division basically ENSURES that.

 

[cipherking]

I totally agree........very good point. I can see how after years of having boxing dominated by black guys who really weren't all that quality of people, some where, but most weren't........i guess it's nice to see some mohawked white boy throwing bombs and knocking EVERYBODY out. Rampage is a very very very decent guy............he's someone you could easily have a beer with and chill, probably have you pissing yourself after awhile. It's class that people have been waiting for for a long time...........they just have to realize that Ramp has it. And your points on Chuck are absolutely right on.........he's in the same boat as crocop is in now, ok not quite as bad........but both were dominant doing just standup. BOth are going to have to revamp their game or they're not going to be anything anymore. Vanderlei and shogun in the LHW division basically ENSURES that.

I grew up in a mostly white rich neigborhood and the best fighters were white dudes. I guess seeing a white boy droping people isnt new to me. But we are all people and americans so we shouldnt still be divided lilke that.

very true that the LHW division is going to leave chuck in the back round somewhere. chuck was one of my favs but i think his days are numbered for the reasons u said. That over hand right isnt going to work on the guys coming in to the ufc. cro cop has said hes getting to old for this. I think hes realizing that left leg isnt enough in the ufc.

 

[redsamurai]

I grew up in a mostly white rich neigborhood and the best fighters were white dudes. I guess seeing a white boy droping people isnt new to me. But we are all people and americans so we shouldnt still be divided lilke that.

very true that the LHW division is going to leave chuck in the back round somewhere. chuck was one of my favs but i think his days are numbered for the reasons u said. That over hand right isnt going to work on the guys coming in to the ufc. cro cop has said hes getting to old for this. I think hes realizing that left leg isnt enough in the ufc.

cro cop ain't gettin too old.........he's just too egotistical to go back to the drawing board and revamp himself. How many times has Randy done exactly that? That's how you stay in this game as long as he has. Same with Hen............he was nothing but a good wrestler when he started, now he's one of the best strikers in the world. I"m also starting to wonder whether pride's no drug testing policy had a bigger impact on fighting than I originally thought.

 

[cipherking]

cro cop ain't gettin too old.........he's just too egotistical to go back to the drawing board and revamp himself. How many times has Randy done exactly that? That's how you stay in this game as long as he has. Same with Hen............he was nothing but a good wrestler when he started, now he's one of the best strikers in the world. I"m also starting to wonder whether pride's no drug testing policy had a bigger impact on fighting than I originally thought.

your right. i never thought about the steroids thing. lets see how silva does now hes here. i believe he took some gear during his pride years. randys a freak and my fav fighter. i believe wrestlers are another breed of people.Im glad to be one.

 

[redsamurai]

your right. i never thought about the steroids thing. lets see how silva does now hes here. i believe he took some gear during his pride years. randys a freak and my fav fighter. i believe wrestlers are another breed of people.Im glad to be one.

Randy's doing something himself.........probably GH, you can tell when he turns to the side, he's got the GH forehead. But I don't hold it against fighters doing GH.........the beating these guys take on their joints is incredible. True "performance enhancers" like roids............ok, that's cheating.

 

[cipherking]

and to think i thought he was just going bald. lol