Now May Be The Time To Say This

[Tatyana]

I think Dorian Yates put it this way (I paraphrase)

"Steroids are like smoking. There are some that are puffing away at 90, and there are some that have lung cancer at 40"

The issue is that when you are in your late teens and early twenties, you think you are going to live forever, that you are invincible.

You really don't think that things you do NOW are going to affect you later.

All those little injuries, insults to your brain and body...............

They can and they do in a lot of cases.

 

[airsmith2k]

and you are big enough to be pro, thus meriting the use of GH. I've seen your pics, you are way bigger than everyone here minus a select few.

Anyone who is not your size should NOT use GH, because they can get there without it. Enlarged organs, and GH gut and other health risks makes GH a worthless thing to use unless you are the point you are at, and it is the next step in obtaining a pro physique.

I guarantee 99% of the people here, including myself, are not that "huge" in terms of pro body builder huge, so it applies.

hey thanks man now i actually have motivation to go train today lol

 

[the elite addict]

Thank you nelson. Very sincere post.

 

[the elite addict]

I agree with every last word in this page.

Clen, DNP = dangerous and stupid. Especially when you use benadryl with clen to enable to use it for longer peiods of time. WTF would you do that to your body, for real? It will fuck with you.

Slin and GH are all worthless drugs unless you have a pro card and it's worth the risk to make it big time.

Fellas, I had some long PM chats with our bro that has gone before us, and I was amazed at the extent of the use he used clen and ECA's. It will get you lean, but it is NOT healthy to your body ever.

I must disagree that "GH is worthless" pro card or not. It isn't much of a risk either. Slin yes, GH no. Just my 2 cents.

 

[mwm5]

i was really looking forward to doing a small dose first cycle in the future. this has scared me so badly now that i will probably not ever do one. do prohormones do the same thing to the cardiovascular system?

 

[Loths]

There are many things abou this original thread that are sound, but it is my experience that those problem described are when things go out of hand and the balance is disturbed... Meaning: ABUSE....

And example could be: iOne thing is to drink and smoke one day a week, then the rest of the week you eat healty, work out, and get plenty of rest... ANOTHER is if you drink, smoke and sleep little every day; dont work out or watch your diet....

One thing that always get my attention is this people who are suppose to be natural and healt,then they are droping down like flies... In my book, this people practice on a extreme of the balance.

The same with steriod... if you take low dosages, injectables, legitimate, cycle them properly, and get your blood test, you should be fine.. IN FACT.. you probably will live longer that the average joe WHO doesn't get blood screen every 3-4 months.

The DUMB mentality that more is better is what gets the nasty consequences. Funny thing is that we american tend to have this problem more than others.. In other coutries you can buy most steriods over the counter, no problem.. and you seldom hear anybody has died from abuse

I know people who has takeng steriod for 30 years... MAKE NO MISTAKE.. I wrote 30 years... and they are fine... Fine medically, with all kind of test to prove it.

Its like everything in life... you have to take the food with the bad, love with hate, pleasure with pain, joy and sadness... You can have the one with out the other... and too much of one will hurt you... Its al balance.....

So in all , the problem is not the steriod... the problem... as alwyas is us... humans!

MY two CENTS

 

[the elite addict]

dude. dont let this post scare you. I don't believe that was his intention. Rather to make people aware and use caution. You have a great natty physique. Your diet and training must be in check. You would do great on a low dose cycle. IMO, some prohormones can be worse than the real thing.

 

[dabuffguy]

i was really looking forward to doing a small dose first cycle in the future. this has scared me so badly now that i will probably not ever do one. do prohormones do the same thing to the cardiovascular system?

bro, don't let this scare. The point being made is we need to be cautious, careful and safe with our bodies in the pursuit of the body we dream of. AAS can play toll on your health if it is abused, just likie you can abuse aspirin, and die. No one is saying guardian was an abuser either, because he wasn't, and I know that for a fact (according to what he shared with through PM a few months back). This was a freak tragedy. Sensible aas use is just fine on your body. A first cycle of 500mg test or something will play extremely insignificant role in your over all health, and if done right, with a great diet, you can actually improve your overall health.

Getting huge and taking tren and drugs designed for animals can even be used in moderation and not be damaging to your health. Although, i totally disagree with use of those personally.


You will be 100% fine running a low dose cycle bro.

 

[DBBT]

isn't this thread basically cliff notes from the book 'get your blood tested regularly'...?

 

[airsmith2k]

I must disagree that "GH is worthless" pro card or not. It isn't much of a risk either. Slin yes, GH no. Just my 2 cents.

hgh transformed me completely....slin yeah its dangerous it screws up your pancreas and thats a known fact thats why im not gonna mess with it