Nolvadex stopping gains????

[BurrBurr]

Im in week 4 right now. Doing 6 weeks. I've heard of some ppl taking nolv during a dbol cycle just to completely avoid gyno..

 

[stevesmi]

the scale means nothing. if you are way below your genetic potential.. lets say you are 6 feet and 140 pound twig, and you run dbol and gain 30 pounds of water that will just go away after cycle did u really accomplish anything?

or is it better to gain a few pounds per cycle of quality gains?

my last tren cycle i ran i gained 2 or 3 pounds.. THATS ALL. and i looked way better after than before.. i have a log up you can see pics

go by the mirror, not the scale.

also as a side note its very possible the nolva killed your estrogen so you are under the impression because you aren't putting on water that you aren't gaining. again like i said above.. anyone can gain 30 pounds of some muscle, some water, and some fat. just PM me if anyone wants to do that. i mean its easy.. just eat 2X as much carbs/cals every 2 hours and run deca/dbol/test with no AI. but really what is the point of looking like a marshmallow/bloated fish?

you might want to run forma stanz instead next time and adjust squirts as needed. you do not want to kill estrogen, but you also dont want to bloat.. gotta learn your body and figure out just the right amount.. it takes experience

 

[BurrBurr]

the scale means nothing. if you are way below your genetic potential.. lets say you are 6 feet and 140 pound twig, and you run dbol and gain 30 pounds of water that will just go away after cycle did u really accomplish anything?

or is it better to gain a few pounds per cycle of quality gains?

my last tren cycle i ran i gained 2 or 3 pounds.. THATS ALL. and i looked way better after than before.. i have a log up you can see pics

go by the mirror, not the scale.

also as a side note its very possible the nolva killed your estrogen so you are under the impression because you aren't putting on water that you aren't gaining. again like i said above.. anyone can gain 30 pounds of some muscle, some water, and some fat. just PM me if anyone wants to do that. i mean its easy.. just eat 2X as much carbs/cals every 2 hours and run deca/dbol/test with no AI. but really what is the point of looking like a marshmallow/bloated fish?

you might want to run forma stanz instead next time and adjust squirts as needed. you do not want to kill estrogen, but you also dont want to bloat.. gotta learn your body and figure out just the right amount.. it takes experience

Thanks alot, this comment helped me mentally.

 

[lamatit]

Stopping water retention... not necessarily "gains.." unless by gains you mean water weight

 

[ALIN]

Nolva lowers IGF.

This is true,,,it does for fact lower IGF1 levels.