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Quadsweeps Sister
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Whiskey said:
Where you talking about my previous post where I mentioned that?
I don't think so - I was just trying to make a point I guess. Somebody thought "I" was somebody else, I wasn't talking about the thread owner... Anyway, I thought the comment fit into the whole feeling of others questioning the fella who wanted some advice at the beginning of this thread.
Maybe it didn't really relate...I don't know - who the hell knows. I guess this thread is toast.
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van_wilder
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Quadsweep's Sister said:
No...i think he was referring to the original poster... as in this has got to be a joke...
mmmmm... toast.... (sorry carb cravings are kicking in)
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reigninghard
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Stats arent that unbelievable...actually very possible, but first things first!
dosandojo
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I think everybody came down hard on the guy, IMO. I still don't see why the first 6 responders to his original thread had to be negative. I respect a lot of people on this thread and don't wish to offend anybody, but I think judging somebody's strength on their appearance is not very smart. There are guys that are half the size of me and younger (i'm 29) that put me to shame in the strength department. Some of these guys are skin and bones. Like I said, I put up similar numbers when I was 18yo my senior year in high school and was also smaller than this guy in weight. There were guys lighter than me by like 20lbs who were natural and lifting around 4 plates as well.
BMJ
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gjohnson5
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MR. BMJ said:
MR BMJ , first off your diet advice horrible at best. You diet will be great if you add more starch , lol. Then you come down on people for being real. The probability of this guys statements being true are slim to none. Third
people here should not be advocating a 19 year old to do gear. This is reality , there are man children out there but they are few and far between. If you were 19 and had that kinda strength , then why would you come on the board looking for steroid cycles??? Most probably you'd already be doing the stuff... He doesn't even know how to inject the stuff or sterilize it, or to fight the sides depending on what drug he took. This is silly , no matter how you look at it
gjohnson5 said:
I don't really think I was 'coming down' on anybody. If people had a problem with the guy using drugs at 19 years old that is okay by me as I agree, but as I mentioned earlier, the first 6 posts had no reference to this in them. Instead, all they had was people doubting his ability to lift those numbers, am I correct? So I want to ask, why the negativity? If using drugs at 19yo was the issue at the beginning of the thread, why didn't people just make reference to this and give him sound advice?
"Then you come down on people for being real. The probability of this guys statements being true are slim to none."
Why do you find it hard that people at 18 yo can lift heavy weight natural? This is retarded. That's almost like saying one guy isn't tough because he doesn't look it. The fact is, there ARE many young kids that can lift heavy poundages with or without the juice.
"If you were 19 and had that kinda strength , then why would you come on the board looking for steroid cycles??? Most probably you'd already be doing the stuff..."
Not everybody that comes to these forums use AAS in case you are unaware of that. Why does anybody come to these forums....to ask questions, and yes mainly about AAS and nutrition. In the case of this poster, all anybody had to do was give him the benefits of waiting longer until he did use. You just can't accuse somebody of taking AAS just because they are stronger than others at a certain age. I'll put it this way, my junior year in high school, I did 2 shots of Primoteston 250, yes it was retarded. I was 17yo. I didn't use any other gear until after my senior year in high school. I lifted 360lbs for 1-rep the last month of m,y senior year. After graduation, I used nonstop until I was 22 years old. I have old posts here at elitefitness starting as early as the search engine will go back (1996) to back this up. I'm not advocating early AAS use, that's not my point even though I did state my beginning use. What I am trying to say is that I could lift those poundages just like him and I wasn't nearly as big as him. I used AAS afterwards because I wanted to get big and strong, no excuses there. Many 19-22 year old football players who are already freaks still use AAS to excell even better at what they do.
Above anything else in this statement by you, can you elaborate on this following quote that you made:
"MR BMJ , first off your diet advice horrible at best. You diet will be great if you add more starch , lol."
So tell me ol' wise one what I could have done better considering that I stated there were many ways he could go about doing it. I wrote up something quick, which may have took all of 3-5 minutes to post. Maybe I should have been more elaborate. However, please correct my mistakes...and remember that when I originally wrote it I thought he was trying to get past a strenght plateau. It didn't register back to me that he was looking for a a more 'model look.' In which case, I stated that I would do things differently. I can debate nutrition all day long guy. If you want to, please feel free to do a search under my name from the Diet board a few years back. I'm sure I could also find a few people to vouch for me on this as well.
Again, I wasn't trying to 'come down' on anybody, even though I kind of knew people would probably feel this way. If I am wrong on this, I will apologize.
BMJ
gjohnson5
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If you don't understand that this board is full of people who lie about thier stats and the dosages of drugs they do and the weights they lift then that you, then you should read some FONZ posts. I've been told he had some awesome advice on dosages of DNP 
My advise would be don't be so gullible.
I never said it was impossible that a 19 year old could lift such weights. I said it was "few and far between" I believe this to be a true and accurate statement. I think the other term is used was "man child" which also indicates something out of the norm.
If you reread your own diet advise you don't explain anything about the main nutrients to be gotten at
breakfast , lunch , pre workout , port workout or evening.
You didn't explain why each time period is significant. You didn't explain anything about protein , fat or carb calories , nor did you explain a diet that has these macronutrients in percentages. You didn't explain what are good sources of the 3 macronutrients or subdivisions of those macronutrients.
What is a Monosaccharide ?
What is a Disaccharaide??
What is a Polysacchararide??
What is the glycemic index and where does maltodextrin fit in it?
What is a monoglyceride??
What is a diglyceride??
What is a triglyceride??
You talked alot about starches... could I get you to explain what a starch is and how they relate to other types of carbohydrates??? You didn't explain anything to him about resting metabilc rate or basal metabolic rate and how you calorie consuption should revolve around these numbers. In other words , your diet advice sucks...
My advise would be don't be so gullible.I never said it was impossible that a 19 year old could lift such weights. I said it was "few and far between" I believe this to be a true and accurate statement. I think the other term is used was "man child" which also indicates something out of the norm.
If you reread your own diet advise you don't explain anything about the main nutrients to be gotten at
breakfast , lunch , pre workout , port workout or evening.
You didn't explain why each time period is significant. You didn't explain anything about protein , fat or carb calories , nor did you explain a diet that has these macronutrients in percentages. You didn't explain what are good sources of the 3 macronutrients or subdivisions of those macronutrients.
What is a Monosaccharide ?
What is a Disaccharaide??
What is a Polysacchararide??
What is the glycemic index and where does maltodextrin fit in it?
What is a monoglyceride??
What is a diglyceride??
What is a triglyceride??
You talked alot about starches... could I get you to explain what a starch is and how they relate to other types of carbohydrates??? You didn't explain anything to him about resting metabilc rate or basal metabolic rate and how you calorie consuption should revolve around these numbers. In other words , your diet advice sucks...
"If you don't understand that this board is full of people who lie about thier stats and the dosages of drugs they do and the weights they lift then that you, then you should read some FONZ posts. I've been told he had some awesome advice on dosages of DNP My advise would be don't be so gullible."
Why because I feel that lifting these weights are not out of the reach for a lot of 18yo's? That doesn't make me gullible when i've seen and lived these accomplishments personally. How is that being gullible? I really don't see how this is so hard to understand.
"I never said it was impossible that a 19 year old could lift such weights. I said it was "few and far between" I believe this to be a true and accurate statement. I think the other term is used was "man child" which also indicates something out of the norm."
I disagree and do not think it is 'true and accurate.' Although a lot of kids cannot do this amount of weight, a lot can do it. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree with this statement though, unless you want to call me a liar when I also say that I lifted it? That's on you though.
I'm not understanding your term "man child" as your english doesn't appear to be very good. You'd have to elaborate on this for me some.
"If you reread your own diet advise you don't explain anything about the main nutrients to be gotten at
breakfast , lunch , pre workout , port workout or evening.
You didn't explain why each time period is significant. You didn't explain anything about protein , fat or carb calories , nor did you explain a diet that has these macronutrients in percentages. You didn't explain what are good sources of the 3 macronutrients or subdivisions of those macronutrients.
What is a Monosaccharide ?
What is a Disaccharaide??
What is a Polysacchararide??
What is the glycemic index and where does maltodextrin fit in it?
What is a monoglyceride??
What is a diglyceride??
What is a triglyceride??
You talked alot about starches... could I get you to explain what a starch is and how they relate to other types of carbohydrates??? You didn't explain anything to him about resting metabilc rate or basal metabolic rate and how you calorie consuption should revolve around these numbers. In other words , your diet advice sucks..."
LOL....You are really making yourself look bad now. Tell me what significance answering and explaining all those terms will accomplish on a post like this? Do you really think it will benefit him much? If you do a search on the diet board back in 2000-2002, you will see that I DID help many people with their diets both on and off the board. I took 3-5 minutes to post some pointers, not to write a book on something. For the record, I have went to such measures in the past on the diet board to explain things such as those you mentioned here, only for most to never respond and ask questions back. I am, not gonna go out of my way unless I know somebody is gonna take in what I write. I learned that a long time ago on the diet board, and i'm sure Mr. X, MS, cockdezl, and a host of others that used to frequent the diet board every day can vouch for that. If somebody wants to ask me questions, while I am helping them, then I will aswer those. I really do not think he was wanting to know any biochemical terms or explanations on this post though. Sometimes simplicity is the best way to go about things at first until more specifics are needed later on. The fact is, the amount of depth you are asking for is erroneous for a post such as this, in fact, what you are asking for is definately 'far and in between.' In all my years on this board, I have never seen anybody go into such depths with a post like this, have you? You still haven't posted or stated on what I can do differently as far as the 'quick' pointers I gave him....I want to learn too. So give some pointers to the kid so he and I can learn from you.
If you want me to answer questions for you GJohnson, then we can take this to the diet board and i'll answer all the questions you want me to. That will be easy considering my degrees are in this field. I don't have a problem with this. And please have them make sense....for example, asking 'how a starch relates to other types of carbohydrates?' is not acceptible.
Thanks!
BMJ
My advise would be don't be so gullible."Why because I feel that lifting these weights are not out of the reach for a lot of 18yo's? That doesn't make me gullible when i've seen and lived these accomplishments personally. How is that being gullible? I really don't see how this is so hard to understand.
"I never said it was impossible that a 19 year old could lift such weights. I said it was "few and far between" I believe this to be a true and accurate statement. I think the other term is used was "man child" which also indicates something out of the norm."
I disagree and do not think it is 'true and accurate.' Although a lot of kids cannot do this amount of weight, a lot can do it. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree with this statement though, unless you want to call me a liar when I also say that I lifted it? That's on you though.
I'm not understanding your term "man child" as your english doesn't appear to be very good. You'd have to elaborate on this for me some.
"If you reread your own diet advise you don't explain anything about the main nutrients to be gotten at
breakfast , lunch , pre workout , port workout or evening.
You didn't explain why each time period is significant. You didn't explain anything about protein , fat or carb calories , nor did you explain a diet that has these macronutrients in percentages. You didn't explain what are good sources of the 3 macronutrients or subdivisions of those macronutrients.
What is a Monosaccharide ?
What is a Disaccharaide??
What is a Polysacchararide??
What is the glycemic index and where does maltodextrin fit in it?
What is a monoglyceride??
What is a diglyceride??
What is a triglyceride??
You talked alot about starches... could I get you to explain what a starch is and how they relate to other types of carbohydrates??? You didn't explain anything to him about resting metabilc rate or basal metabolic rate and how you calorie consuption should revolve around these numbers. In other words , your diet advice sucks..."
LOL....You are really making yourself look bad now. Tell me what significance answering and explaining all those terms will accomplish on a post like this? Do you really think it will benefit him much? If you do a search on the diet board back in 2000-2002, you will see that I DID help many people with their diets both on and off the board. I took 3-5 minutes to post some pointers, not to write a book on something. For the record, I have went to such measures in the past on the diet board to explain things such as those you mentioned here, only for most to never respond and ask questions back. I am, not gonna go out of my way unless I know somebody is gonna take in what I write. I learned that a long time ago on the diet board, and i'm sure Mr. X, MS, cockdezl, and a host of others that used to frequent the diet board every day can vouch for that. If somebody wants to ask me questions, while I am helping them, then I will aswer those. I really do not think he was wanting to know any biochemical terms or explanations on this post though. Sometimes simplicity is the best way to go about things at first until more specifics are needed later on. The fact is, the amount of depth you are asking for is erroneous for a post such as this, in fact, what you are asking for is definately 'far and in between.' In all my years on this board, I have never seen anybody go into such depths with a post like this, have you? You still haven't posted or stated on what I can do differently as far as the 'quick' pointers I gave him....I want to learn too. So give some pointers to the kid so he and I can learn from you.
If you want me to answer questions for you GJohnson, then we can take this to the diet board and i'll answer all the questions you want me to. That will be easy considering my degrees are in this field. I don't have a problem with this. And please have them make sense....for example, asking 'how a starch relates to other types of carbohydrates?' is not acceptible.
Thanks!
BMJ
