Arnold presses low weight so that I hit all three heads of the shoulder ?@man05 for high reps do flys and for shoulders presses but low weight dont put too much pressure on shoulders go slow high
Arnold presses low weight so that I hit all three heads of the shoulder ?@man05 for high reps do flys and for shoulders presses but low weight dont put too much pressure on shoulders go slow high
What is a good high rep exercise for back?next step is gonna be back development
Can you suggest and alternate?inclines put a lot of pressure
I also do all incline work at 30 degrees.Can you suggest and alternate?
Still okay that I’m doing heavier incline bar work on my chest days? I’m using good form and controlling weight down slow not dropping it.
@man05 i dont know much alternative to inclines they the best for upper chestCan you suggest and alternate?
Still okay that I’m doing heavier incline bar work on my chest days? I’m using good form and controlling weight down slow not dropping it.
I think I misunderstood the previous comment.@man05 i dont know much alternative to inclines they the best for upper chest
love the updateKiller leg workout, nearly puked, glutes and hams are sore.
The high rep burnout sets are sadistic, I thoroughly enjoy them as I am shaking trying to finish the first set alone.
Veins were popping out crazy on my quads and calves, biceps etc.
Rest day tomorrow will write back Tuesday after the first push and pull sets of the week.
For a high rep set for bench would you suggest chest fly's with dumbells? and shoulder go light for 50 reps on lateral or rear deltoid?
Thanks guys have a great weekend
mark
Here are my meals for the apst two days:
9/8/2023Protein 70 70 70 40 70 70 70 460Fat 20 20 15 15 21 15 21 127Carbs 15 15 20 24 36 20 36 166Egg white powder shake with almond butter
4500mg fish oilEgg white powder shake with almond butter Liquid egg white smoothie with whole egg and almond butter Yogurt 8oz chicken Grilled chicken Wrap Liquid egg white smoothie with whole egg and almond butter 8oz chicken Grilled chicken Wrap 9/9/2023Protein 70 70 70 67 70 60 30 437Fat 20 20 20 25 20 10 8 123Carbs 15 15 15 15 15 30 15 120Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs
4500mg fish oilPre workout Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, piece of banana Post workout Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs 10oz ribeye, carb smart tortillas whole grain Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, half cup of whole almonds as snack Grilled chicken breast yogurt avocado sauce and low carb tortilla Egg white shake and almond butter with strawberrys
Weights :
9/8/2023Chest supported rows 5x8 170 (85x2) DB bent over rows 5x8 85lb DB Bent over wide grip BB 3x50 75lbs Not as easy as I thought this would be , massive lactic acid, hurt but fun. BB shrugs 5x8 245lbs Tricep Kickbacks 5x8 35 lbs each DB Hammer curl 5x8 45lbs(1), 40lbs(2), 35lbs(2) DB Curls – Seated 2x50 20lb each Most brutal arms yet, went from 20lbs to 15lbs arms were swollen huge. six months ago this would have been no issue to do. Forearm Curls 5x8 30lbs each 9/9/2023Squats 5x8 245lbs +20lbs Sumo Squat BB 5x8 205lbs Ill stick to the bar for more weight Calf raise (straight, pro, sup) 4x10 185lbs +20lbs RDL 4x8 35lbsKB for agility and strength Burnout Squats 2x50 95lbs Brutal, I feel crippled, awesome stretch feeling on the last set, my legs were shaking, veins everywhere, awesome.
9/10/2023 | Protein | 70 | 67 | 70 | 65 | 65 | 40 | 40 | 417 | |
| Fat | 20 | 20 | 15 | 20 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 120 | ||
| Carbs | 15 | 0 | 15 | 45 | 0 | 20 | 15 | 110 | ||
| Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs 4500mg fish oil | 10oz ribeye | Fruit and protein shake; egg white and whey fresh fruit and water with almond butter | 9oz grilled chicken , diced avocados and yogurt cilantro sauce, 3 low carb high fiber tortillas | 12oz strip | yogurt | Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs | ||||
9/11/2023 | Protein | 70 | 70 | 70 | 67 | 70 | 60 | 30 | 437 | |
| Fat | 20 | 20 | 20 | 30 | 7 | 25 | 7 | 129 | ||
| Carbs | 15 | 15 | 15 | 0 | 15 | 13 | 15 | 88 | ||
| Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs 4500mg fish oil | Pre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs | Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs | 10oz ribeye | Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs | Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce | Yogurt | ||||
9/12/2023 | Protein | 70 | 70 | 70 | 60 | 60 | 60 | 45 | 435 | |
| Fat | 20 | 20 | 20 | 25 | 14 | 25 | 7 | 131 | ||
| Carbs | 15 | 15 | 15 | 13 | 30 | 13 | 15 | 116 | ||
| Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, 1/2 scoop whey for flavor. 4500mg fish oil | Pre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana | Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs | Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce | 4 Oikos triple zero yogurts | Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce | Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) , with almond butter and whole eggs |
9/11/2023 | Flat BB bench | 5x5 | 225lbs x5 | Still heavy for me | ||
| Incline BB bench | 5x8 | 185 | Able to increase this weekly for some reason. | |||
| Flat bench press high rep | 3x50 | 115(1), 95(2) | I just close my eyes and rep them out, brutal, triceps swollen huge and chest super tight. | |||
| Standing single arms side deltoid raise | 4x10 | 30lbs (15lbs ea) | ||||
| Chest supported deltoid raise | 3x10 | 40lbs (20lbs ea) | ||||
| Front deltoid raises standing | 3x10 | 30lbs (15lbs ea) | ||||
| Arnold press | 2x50 | 30lbs (15lbs each) | Second set had to move down to 10lbs after 30 reps, could barely put the dumbells down. | |||
9/12/2023 | Snatch Grip Deadlift - wide grip | 4x8 | 135lbs | |||
| Stiff Legged Deadlift | 4x8 | 185lbs | ||||
| Barebell pullover | 4x8 | 92lbs | ||||
| Dumbbell Rows - high rep | 3x50 | 45lbs | ||||
| Shrugs | 4*8 | 245lbs | ||||
| Tricep Kickbacks | 5x8 | 35 lbs each | ||||
| DB Hammer curl | 5x8 | 45lbs(1), 40lbs(2), 35lbs(2) | ||||
| DB Curls – Seated | 3x50 | 20lb each | Super swollen arms, insane how swollen they were. | |||
| Forearm Curls | 5x8 | 30lbs each |
@man05 egg protein is great keep at itHere is the first half of the weeks meals and weights.
Strength feels good and I continue to increase where I am able to and execute with good form.
The high rep sets are insane, todays seated bicep curls left my arms so incredibly swollen and sore, during the sets I had vascularity but after the sets my arms looked bloated and thick.
Currently I am still on 300Test and 200 Deca, the hard work seems to be paying off. I am pushing hard and will continue to do so, I am noticing though that after heavy chest I am still sort the next day, mostly my upper chest from incline. MY shoulders front and side deltoids are sore today as well, usually I am not sore the day after.
Egg white shakes are noticeably better and I don't have any abdominal bloat that I did on the heavy whey shakes I was on. I am now only supplementing with whey.
Thanks for all the help, hacks and ideas, its awesome to work with you guys and learn so much from all of you, very excited about what the future brings.
Thank you
mark
Here are the meals:
9/10/2023Protein 70 67 70 65 65 40 40 417Fat 20 20 15 20 15 15 15 120Carbs 15 0 15 45 0 20 15 110Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs
4500mg fish oil10oz ribeye Fruit and protein shake; egg white and whey fresh fruit and water with almond butter 9oz grilled chicken , diced avocados and yogurt cilantro sauce, 3 low carb high fiber tortillas 12oz strip yogurt Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs 9/11/2023Protein 70 70 70 67 70 60 30 437Fat 20 20 20 30 7 25 7 129Carbs 15 15 15 0 15 13 15 88Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs
4500mg fish oilPre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs 10oz ribeye Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce Yogurt 9/12/2023Protein 70 70 70 60 60 60 45 435Fat 20 20 20 25 14 25 7 131Carbs 15 15 15 13 30 13 15 116Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, 1/2 scoop whey for flavor.
4500mg fish oilPre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce 4 Oikos triple zero yogurts Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) , with almond butter and whole eggs
Weights:
9/11/2023Flat BB bench 5x5 225lbs x5 Still heavy for me Incline BB bench 5x8 185 Able to increase this weekly for some reason. Flat bench press high rep 3x50 115(1), 95(2) I just close my eyes and rep them out, brutal, triceps swollen huge and chest super tight. Standing single arms side deltoid raise 4x10 30lbs (15lbs ea) Chest supported deltoid raise 3x10 40lbs (20lbs ea) Front deltoid raises standing 3x10 30lbs (15lbs ea) Arnold press 2x50 30lbs (15lbs each) Second set had to move down to 10lbs after 30 reps, could barely put the dumbells down. 9/12/2023Snatch Grip Deadlift - wide grip 4x8 135lbs Stiff Legged Deadlift 4x8 185lbs Barebell pullover 4x8 92lbs Dumbbell Rows - high rep 3x50 45lbs Shrugs 4*8 245lbs Tricep Kickbacks 5x8 35 lbs each DB Hammer curl 5x8 45lbs(1), 40lbs(2), 35lbs(2) DB Curls – Seated 3x50 20lb each Super swollen arms, insane how swollen they were. Forearm Curls 5x8 30lbs each
I am going through - box of Costco egg whites in 2 days, going to start buying six box at a time.costco got some good egg whites
Thank you , I will continue to push forward.Keep working on the flat bench and it'll ease up
killer update hereHere is the first half of the weeks meals and weights.
Strength feels good and I continue to increase where I am able to and execute with good form.
The high rep sets are insane, todays seated bicep curls left my arms so incredibly swollen and sore, during the sets I had vascularity but after the sets my arms looked bloated and thick.
Currently I am still on 300Test and 200 Deca, the hard work seems to be paying off. I am pushing hard and will continue to do so, I am noticing though that after heavy chest I am still sort the next day, mostly my upper chest from incline. MY shoulders front and side deltoids are sore today as well, usually I am not sore the day after.
Egg white shakes are noticeably better and I don't have any abdominal bloat that I did on the heavy whey shakes I was on. I am now only supplementing with whey.
Thanks for all the help, hacks and ideas, its awesome to work with you guys and learn so much from all of you, very excited about what the future brings.
Thank you
mark
Here are the meals:
9/10/2023Protein 70 67 70 65 65 40 40 417Fat 20 20 15 20 15 15 15 120Carbs 15 0 15 45 0 20 15 110Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs
4500mg fish oil10oz ribeye Fruit and protein shake; egg white and whey fresh fruit and water with almond butter 9oz grilled chicken , diced avocados and yogurt cilantro sauce, 3 low carb high fiber tortillas 12oz strip yogurt Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs 9/11/2023Protein 70 70 70 67 70 60 30 437Fat 20 20 20 30 7 25 7 129Carbs 15 15 15 0 15 13 15 88Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs
4500mg fish oilPre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs 10oz ribeye Liquid Egg white shake with almond butter and whole eggs Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce Yogurt 9/12/2023Protein 70 70 70 60 60 60 45 435Fat 20 20 20 25 14 25 7 131Carbs 15 15 15 13 30 13 15 116Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, 1/2 scoop whey for flavor.
4500mg fish oilPre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce 4 Oikos triple zero yogurts Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) , with almond butter and whole eggs
Weights:
9/11/2023Flat BB bench 5x5 225lbs x5 Still heavy for me Incline BB bench 5x8 185 Able to increase this weekly for some reason. Flat bench press high rep 3x50 115(1), 95(2) I just close my eyes and rep them out, brutal, triceps swollen huge and chest super tight. Standing single arms side deltoid raise 4x10 30lbs (15lbs ea) Chest supported deltoid raise 3x10 40lbs (20lbs ea) Front deltoid raises standing 3x10 30lbs (15lbs ea) Arnold press 2x50 30lbs (15lbs each) Second set had to move down to 10lbs after 30 reps, could barely put the dumbells down. 9/12/2023Snatch Grip Deadlift - wide grip 4x8 135lbs Stiff Legged Deadlift 4x8 185lbs Barebell pullover 4x8 92lbs Dumbbell Rows - high rep 3x50 45lbs Shrugs 4*8 245lbs Tricep Kickbacks 5x8 35 lbs each DB Hammer curl 5x8 45lbs(1), 40lbs(2), 35lbs(2) DB Curls – Seated 3x50 20lb each Super swollen arms, insane how swollen they were. Forearm Curls 5x8 30lbs each
@man05 its normal you're leaning out and losing bodyfat while gaining massI weighed myself this morning and my weight has dropped a few lbs but I look larger , my core is getting flatter as well, is all of this normal?
If it's working as is don't worry about how it looks.Thank you , I will continue to push forward.
Do my sets and reps look okay?
My entire back is super sore as a result of changing my back routine. Is it best to change workouts every 6 weeks or so or better to stick with basic movements on split 1 then have alternate movements on split 2?
Thank you
I am going to take a look into that, thank you.Yoga offer a variety of exercises and stretches that target the back muscles and improve flexibility.... You can use a barbell, dumbbells, or resistance bands.
9/13/2023 | Protein | 70 | 70 | 70 | 60 | 70 | 60 | 35 | 435 | |
| Fat | 20 | 20 | 20 | 25 | 20 | 14 | 10 | 129 | ||
| Carbs | 15 | 25 | 15 | 0 | 15 | 30 | 5 | 105 | ||
| Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, 1/2 scoop whey for flavor. 4500mg fish oil | Pre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana | Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs | Grilled 10oz ribeye | Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)shake with almond butter and whole eggs | 4 Oikos triple zero yogurts | Grilled Chicken and cilantro yogurt sauce. Boathouse brand is top notch! | ||||
9/14/2023 | Protein | 70 | 70 | 79 | 60 | 60 | 70 | 409 | ||
| Fat | 20 | 20 | 15 | 14 | 25 | 20 | 114 | |||
| Carbs | 15 | 25 | 0 | 30 | 13 | 15 | 98 | |||
| Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, 1/2 scoop whey for flavor. 4500mg fish oil | Post workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana | 15oz Strip steak | Yogurts | Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce | Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)shake with almond butter and whole eggs |
9/13/2023 | Squats | 5x8 | 255lbs | |
| Sumo Squat BB | 5x8 | 225lbs | ||
| Calf raise (straight, pro, sup) | 4x10 | 185lbs | ||
| Burnout Squats | 3x50 | 115lbs | ||
9/14/2023 | Flat BB bench | 5x5 | 185*3 | Chest feels really weak today, no strength, I think my tris are really worked over still as I pushed them really hard Tuesday |
| Incline DB bench | 5x8 | 185 | Incline felt good, was able to hit 8 reps on 4 sets but took maximum effort. | |
| Dips | 3x8 | Bodyweight | ||
| Flat bench press high rep | 3x50 | 120lbs | ||
| Leaning single arms side deltoid raise | 4x8 | 40lbs (20lbs ea) | ||
| Chest supported deltoid raise | 3x8 | 60lbs (30lbs ea) | Rear deltoids on fire | |
| Front deltoid raises standing | 4x8 | 40lbs (20lbs ea) | ||
| Arnold press | 2x50 | 30lbs (15lbs each) | - |
@man05 strong day especially arnold press keep this upHere is my midweek update with my last two meals today projected as I'll eat them later.
Back and Tris feeling better, I think the Back exercises I switched overworked these muscle groups, I should be 100% for tomorrow Pull exercises.
My flat bench I felt weak today, possibly my tris being so sore, not sure, but I was able to push out my reps for Incline Chest.
Here are my meals the past two days:
9/13/2023Protein 70 70 70 60 70 60 35 435Fat 20 20 20 25 20 14 10 129Carbs 15 25 15 0 15 30 5 105Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, 1/2 scoop whey for flavor.
4500mg fish oilPre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs Grilled 10oz ribeye Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)shake with almond butter and whole eggs 4 Oikos triple zero yogurts Grilled Chicken and cilantro yogurt sauce. Boathouse brand is top notch! 9/14/2023Protein 70 70 79 60 60 70 409Fat 20 20 15 14 25 20 114Carbs 15 25 0 30 13 15 98Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, 1/2 scoop whey for flavor.
4500mg fish oilPost workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana 15oz Strip steak Yogurts Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)shake with almond butter and whole eggs
Weights felt pretty good today as well except flat bench, 185 felt heavier than 225 has. I was able to increase weight for shoulders a bit today and going for 8 reps. I am pushing for 275lb squat each day I try to push a little bit harder. My goal is to hit 3 sets of 50 @135lbs, I've seen the old Tom Platz videos doing, epic humor except Ill be the one falling on the floor.
9/13/2023Squats 5x8 255lbs Sumo Squat BB 5x8 225lbs Calf raise (straight, pro, sup) 4x10 185lbs Burnout Squats 3x50 115lbs 9/14/2023Flat BB bench 5x5 185*3 Chest feels really weak today, no strength, I think my tris are really worked over still as I pushed them really hard Tuesday Incline DB bench 5x8 185 Incline felt good, was able to hit 8 reps on 4 sets but took maximum effort. Dips 3x8 Bodyweight Flat bench press high rep 3x50 120lbs Leaning single arms side deltoid raise 4x8 40lbs (20lbs ea) Chest supported deltoid raise 3x8 60lbs (30lbs ea) Rear deltoids on fire Front deltoid raises standing 4x8 40lbs (20lbs ea) Arnold press 2x50 30lbs (15lbs each) -
Thank guys for all the help along the way, rock on.
Mark
I used to lift more light weights now I enjoy heavy, when I do the 50rep finishers with light weight they are brutal, so yes I like to fail when I lift because I’m getting stronger. Do you have any specific suggestions or thoughts on areas I could/ should change?Hey Mark, that is a good update. Do you like to lift light?
I am thinking of throwing in 3x8 single leg split squat with the bar at 135lb to start after the set of sumos, what do you think about that?Good to see squats
Single leg? No. Start lighter and wait until you get used to it. Single leg squats involve a LOT more balance and muscles that do not get worked hard usuallyI am thinking of throwing in 3x8 single leg split squat with the bar at 135lb to start after the set of sumos, what do you think about that?
I cycle my levels up and down through the year. No one should go balls out non stopIf you train like Ronnie Coleman, you go heavy every workout, I like to go moderate to heavy.
nice update here broHere is my midweek update with my last two meals today projected as I'll eat them later.
Back and Tris feeling better, I think the Back exercises I switched overworked these muscle groups, I should be 100% for tomorrow Pull exercises.
My flat bench I felt weak today, possibly my tris being so sore, not sure, but I was able to push out my reps for Incline Chest.
Here are my meals the past two days:
9/13/2023Protein 70 70 70 60 70 60 35 435Fat 20 20 20 25 20 14 10 129Carbs 15 25 15 0 15 30 5 105Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, 1/2 scoop whey for flavor.
4500mg fish oilPre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs Grilled 10oz ribeye Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)shake with almond butter and whole eggs 4 Oikos triple zero yogurts Grilled Chicken and cilantro yogurt sauce. Boathouse brand is top notch! 9/14/2023Protein 70 70 79 60 60 70 409Fat 20 20 15 14 25 20 114Carbs 15 25 0 30 13 15 98Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs, 1/2 scoop whey for flavor.
4500mg fish oilPost workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana 15oz Strip steak Yogurts Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)shake with almond butter and whole eggs
Weights felt pretty good today as well except flat bench, 185 felt heavier than 225 has. I was able to increase weight for shoulders a bit today and going for 8 reps. I am pushing for 275lb squat each day I try to push a little bit harder. My goal is to hit 3 sets of 50 @135lbs, I've seen the old Tom Platz videos doing, epic humor except Ill be the one falling on the floor.
9/13/2023Squats 5x8 255lbs Sumo Squat BB 5x8 225lbs Calf raise (straight, pro, sup) 4x10 185lbs Burnout Squats 3x50 115lbs 9/14/2023Flat BB bench 5x5 185*3 Chest feels really weak today, no strength, I think my tris are really worked over still as I pushed them really hard Tuesday Incline DB bench 5x8 185 Incline felt good, was able to hit 8 reps on 4 sets but took maximum effort. Dips 3x8 Bodyweight Flat bench press high rep 3x50 120lbs Leaning single arms side deltoid raise 4x8 40lbs (20lbs ea) Chest supported deltoid raise 3x8 60lbs (30lbs ea) Rear deltoids on fire Front deltoid raises standing 4x8 40lbs (20lbs ea) Arnold press 2x50 30lbs (15lbs each) -
Thank guys for all the help along the way, rock on.
Mark
9/15/2023 | Snatch Grip Deadlift - wide grip | 4x8 | 145lbs | |
| Stiff Legged Deadlift | 4x8 | 205lbs | ||
| Barebell pullover | 4x8 | 88lbs | ||
| Shrugs | 4x8 | 245lbs | ||
| Dumbbell Rows - high rep | 3x50 | 45lbs | ||
| Tricep Kickbacks | 5x8 | 35 lbs each | ||
| Tricep dips - vertical body position | 5x8 | bodyweight + 25lbs | ||
| DB Hammer curl - half way | 5x8 | 35lbs | ||
| DB Curls – Seated | 3x50 | 20lb each | ||
| Forearm Curls | 5x8 | 30lbs each | ||
9/16/2023 | Squats | 5x8 | 235lbs | Hamstrings sorre from Fridays Dead lifts, body still adapting. |
| Sumo Squat BB | 5x8 | 225lbs | ||
| Calf raise (straight, pro, sup) | 4x10 | 185lbs | ||
| Burnout Squats | 3x50 | 115lbs |
9/15/2023 | Protein | 61 | 70 | 70 | 60 | 70 | 59 | 30 | 420 | |
| Fat | 49 | 20 | 20 | 25 | 15 | 10 | 7 | 146 | ||
| Carbs | 5 | 25 | 15 | 13 | 15 | 0 | 15 | 88 | ||
| 5 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup low fat cottage cheese and one chicken basil sausage | Pre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana | Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs | Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce | Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs | 8oz filet | Yogurts | ||||
9/16/2023 | Protein | 70 | 61 | 70 | 60 | 60 | 59 | 70 | 450 | |
| Fat | 20 | 49 | 20 | 25 | 14 | 10 | 15 | 153 | ||
| Carbs | 25 | 5 | 15 | 13 | 30 | 0 | 15 | 103 | ||
| Pre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana | 5 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup low fat cottage cheese and one chicken basil sausage | Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs | Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce | yogurts; Oikos triple zeros | 8oz filet, cant beat the store mispricing then honoroing Angus meat, 2.3lbs Fielt for $14.99 | Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs |
@man05 dont increase weight, keep the weight the same and stay on this for 2 more weeks, you need to keep that protein high and train 2 more weeks before adjustmentsMy weeks over, time for a rest day.
I have several questions on how my training should be on cycle, I continue to increase weight with excellent form and don't move until I can mange the weight well. As to training changes I have moved around some back exercises as I felt stale on the chest supported rows. I have added two exercises to legs. As to sets and reps I feel that 6-8 reps is good for me, however I am not sure that 5 sets is optimal, would 4 sets be a better range?
Also what do you guys think about splitting workouts, is that beneficial? Example: Chest first then 2 hour break for work then destroy shoulders? I normally get fried from Chest then grind the shoulders.
As to my volume : I have been reading 12-15 sets per body part lately. I will continue to incorporate a single high rep exercise with 50 reps doing 2-3 sets of those at the end. Vascularity of biceps is insane, during the high rep sessions I can literally see my arms turning red and so swollen they feel liek they are not there, I can barely rack dumbbells, I digress sorry.
Weights went well this week and I look forward to Chest flat BB press
9/15/2023Snatch Grip Deadlift - wide grip 4x8 145lbs Stiff Legged Deadlift 4x8 205lbs Barebell pullover 4x8 88lbs Shrugs 4x8 245lbs Dumbbell Rows - high rep 3x50 45lbs Tricep Kickbacks 5x8 35 lbs each Tricep dips - vertical body position 5x8 bodyweight + 25lbs DB Hammer curl - half way 5x8 35lbs DB Curls – Seated 3x50 20lb each Forearm Curls 5x8 30lbs each 9/16/2023Squats 5x8 235lbs Hamstrings sorre from Fridays Dead lifts, body still adapting. Sumo Squat BB 5x8 225lbs Calf raise (straight, pro, sup) 4x10 185lbs Burnout Squats 3x50 115lbs
Meals: This is getting easier for me to setup food, egg whites are in, whey protein is taking a back seat but I still take a small amount post workout. I feel noticeably better with egg white than straight Whey shakes.
9/15/2023Protein 61 70 70 60 70 59 30 420Fat 49 20 20 25 15 10 7 146Carbs 5 25 15 13 15 0 15 885 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup low fat cottage cheese and one chicken basil sausage Pre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs 8oz filet Yogurts 9/16/2023Protein 70 61 70 60 60 59 70 450Fat 20 49 20 25 14 10 15 153Carbs 25 5 15 13 30 0 15 103Pre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana 5 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup low fat cottage cheese and one chicken basil sausage Post workout Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs Grilled Chicken 8oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce yogurts; Oikos triple zeros 8oz filet, cant beat the store mispricing then honoroing Angus meat, 2.3lbs Fielt for $14.99 Liquid Egg (16oz of egg white)white shake with almond butter and whole eggs
Thanks for all the feedback, have a great weekend, next update Tuesday evening after my Pull session.
Appreciate all the help, I am nearly half way through the cycle and I feel like the deca is taking off big time now.
Thanks
Mark
@man05 we are really happy to have you here and really a big transformation for you, you keeping lean and tight on this cycle and learning steroids high doses not all great. Smart moves we are waiting for more updates.Thank you, one of the members said that the log will write itself and I’m seeing that daily. Hopefully this is helpful to others. I’m liking deca and the results so far. For me it’s learning to run my cycle properly and not reactively. Also members pointing out that if it’s working no more gear is necessary and I have been motivated to push myself as hard as I can each session. I wonder at times what 300 deca would be like instead of my 200 and I think back to my first cycle of 500mg test per week eating dbol knowing nothing, eating too much carb not enough protein and I was an estrogen elevated bloated mess. This log and all future logs I’m doing for myself and for anyone else who will benefit. I love this community, great folks here, tons of wisdom.
9/17/2023 | Flat BB bench | 5x5 | 225 |
| Incline DB bench | 5x8 | 185 | |
| Dips | 3x8 | Bodyweight + 35lbs | |
| Flat bench press high rep | 3x50 | 125lbs | |
| Leaning single arms side deltoid raise | 4x8 | 40lbs (20lbs ea) | |
| Chest supported deltoid raise | 3x8 | 60lbs (30lbs ea) | |
| Front deltoid raises standing | 4x8 | 40lbs (20lbs ea) | |
| Arnold press | 2x50 | 30lbs (15lbs each) | |
9/18/2023 | Snatch Grip Deadlift - wide grip | 3x8 | 165lbs |
| Stiff Legged Deadlift | 3x8 | 215lbs | |
| Barbell pullover | 3x8 | 88lbs | |
| Shrugs | 3x8 | 255lbs | |
| Dumbbell Rows chest supported - high rep | 2x50 | 50lbs each | |
| 14 sets | |||
| Tricep Kickbacks | 3x8 | 35 lbs each | |
| Tricep dips - vertical body position | 3x8 | bodyweight | |
| DB Hammer curl - half way | 3x8 | 40lbs | |
| DB Curls – Standing | 3x50 | 20lb each | |
| Forearm Curls | 3x8 | 30lbs each | |
| 15 sets |
9/17/2023 | Protein | 70 | 65 | 40 | 60 | 60 | 24 | 70 | 389 | |
| Fat | 20 | 50 | 5 | 20 | 14 | 8 | 20 | 137 | ||
| Carbs | 25 | 10 | 15 | 15 | 30 | 10 | 25 | 130 | ||
| Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps | 5 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup, 6 oz ground beef, pinch of cheese= | On the go protein shake muscle milk, gross. | Double angus grilled burger, no bun with cheese and 7-8 small fries | yogurts; Oikos triple zeros | Grilled Chicken 5oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce | Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana | ||||
9/18/2023 | Protein | 70 | 70 | 70 | 50 | 60 | 50 | 40 | 410 | |
| Fat | 20 | 20 | 20 | 12 | 14 | 10 | 96 | |||
| Carbs | 25 | 25 | 5 | 8 | 30 | 93 | ||||
| Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps | Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana | Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs | Scrambled eggs with cottage cheese and a little shredded cheese on top. | yogurts; Oikos triple zeros | Grilled chicken and yogurt sauce | Small egg white shake before bed, 15grams whey for flavor with one whole egg and 1Tbsp Almond butter. | ||||
9/19/2023 | Protein | 70 | 70 | 70 | 48 | 60 | 70 | 35 | 423 | |
| Fat | 15 | 20 | 15 | 35 | 14 | 15 | 10 | 124 | ||
| Carbs | 25 | 35 | 15 | 15 | 30 | 10 | 8 | 138 | ||
| Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps | Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and whole banana | Post workout shake - Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs | Chicken and avocado | yogurts; Oikos triple zeros | Grilled top sirloin steakand greens | Liquid Egg white(8oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and pinch of whey for flavor |
@man05 strong update you're really training hardHere is my first update for the week.
I performed normal sets of chest yesterday, today though I reduced by one set. IS the optimal set range 3 or 4?
Looking back some days when I was pushing 5 sets heavy I felt weaker the next day on different body part. Is it advisable to reduce number of exercises to maintain the 4-5 rep range? Sometimes all the high reps with heavy weights leaves me feeling worn out but I am not sure what causes this as some weeks I can crush it. Thank you in advance for your responses.
Here are the weights:
9/17/2023Flat BB bench 5x5 225Incline DB bench 5x8 185 Dips 3x8 Bodyweight + 35lbs Flat bench press high rep 3x50 125lbs Leaning single arms side deltoid raise 4x8 40lbs (20lbs ea) Chest supported deltoid raise 3x8 60lbs (30lbs ea) Front deltoid raises standing 4x8 40lbs (20lbs ea) Arnold press 2x50 30lbs (15lbs each) 9/18/2023Snatch Grip Deadlift - wide grip 3x8 165lbs Stiff Legged Deadlift 3x8 215lbs Barbell pullover 3x8 88lbs Shrugs 3x8 255lbs Dumbbell Rows chest supported - high rep 2x50 50lbs each 14 sets Tricep Kickbacks 3x8 35 lbs each Tricep dips - vertical body position 3x8 bodyweight DB Hammer curl - half way 3x8 40lbs DB Curls – Standing 3x50 20lb each Forearm Curls 3x8 30lbs each 15 sets
Meals for the past few days, I entered in my last 3 meals in advance so I could make this update more timely.
Thank you guys for all the input and feedback.
9/17/2023Protein 70 65 40 60 60 24 70 389Fat 20 50 5 20 14 8 20 137Carbs 25 10 15 15 30 10 25 130Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps 5 whole eggs scrambled with 1/2 cup, 6 oz ground beef, pinch of cheese= On the go protein shake muscle milk, gross. Double angus grilled burger, no bun with cheese and 7-8 small fries yogurts; Oikos triple zeros Grilled Chicken 5oz with avocado and cilantro yogurt sauce Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana 9/18/2023Protein 70 70 70 50 60 50 40 410Fat 20 20 20 12 14 10 96Carbs 25 25 5 8 30 93Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs Scrambled eggs with cottage cheese and a little shredded cheese on top. yogurts; Oikos triple zeros Grilled chicken and yogurt sauce Small egg white shake before bed, 15grams whey for flavor with one whole egg and 1Tbsp Almond butter. 9/19/2023Protein 70 70 70 48 60 70 35 423Fat 15 20 15 35 14 15 10 124Carbs 25 35 15 15 30 10 8 138Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and whole banana Post workout shake - Easy shake Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs Chicken and avocado yogurts; Oikos triple zeros Grilled top sirloin steakand greens Liquid Egg white(8oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and pinch of whey for flavor
Mark
I get 8-10 each nightAre you getting enough, sleep? I like to sleep 10 hours after a hard workout.
I work from home at a desk.do you work a hard labor job as well. Or is it a desk job that makes a difference?
looks good I agree. Bro I would switch up the reps. few sets lower reps 5-8 rep range few sets 12-18 rep range let the muscles see bothVery good consistency with this long. Keep up the good work.
A key to progressVery good consistency with this long. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for that and all the wisdom you and the others are sharing. Those burner sets kick your butt hard after a heavy session it’s borderline euphoric.A key to progress
9/19/2023 | Squats | 3x6 | 235lbs |
| Sumo Squat BB | 4x10 | 225lbs | |
| Split squats w/ Barbell | 4x8 | 95lbs | |
| Calf raise (straight, pro, sup) | 4x10 | 185lbs | |
| Burnout Squats | 2x50 | 115lbs | |
9/20/2023 | Flat BB bench | 5x5 | 225 |
| Incline DB bench | 4x6 | 185 | |
| Dips | 4x8 | Bodyweight + 35lbs | |
| Flat bench flyes | 3x50 | 40lbs(20lb each) | |
| Leaning single arms side deltoid raise | 3x10 | 40lbs (20lbs ea) | |
| Chest supported deltoid raise | 3x8 | 60lbs (30lbs ea) | |
| Front deltoid raises standing | 4x8 | 40lbs (20lbs ea) | |
| Arnold press | 3x50 | 30lbs (15lbs each) |
9/20/2023 | Protein | 70 | 50 | 70 | 65 | 70 | 45 | 50 | 420 | |
| Fat | 15 | 7 | 20 | 10 | 20 | 20 | 20 | 112 | ||
| Carbs | 20 | 25 | 8 | 22 | 8 | 21 | 12 | 116 | ||
| Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps | Whey shake and banana almond milk and water | Post workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs | 2 cans of whole tuna, mayo, mustard and a small piece of whole grain multi grain bread. | Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs | yogurts; Oikos triple zeros, 1/4 cup mixed nuts | Grilled chicken strips with fried chicken strips | ||||
9/21/2023 | Protein | 70 | 70 | 70 | 67 | 45 | 67 | 40 | 429 | |
| Fat | 15 | 20 | 20 | 25 | 10.5 | 25 | 10 | 125.5 | ||
| Carbs | 15 | 25 | 8 | 0 | 21 | 10 | 25 | 104 | ||
| Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps | Pre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and whole banana | Post workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs | 10oz ribeye | yogurts; Oikos triple zeros | 10oz ribeye, 2" piece of fresh bread | Grilled chicken and carrots |
@man05 you're doing well dont stop keep it upHere is my mid-week update.
I was able to hit all my reps on flat bench but last few sets I was about 3" from the top of my chest on those, getting a huge stretch.
I feel like I have plateaued on incline bench for now and will work towards 8 reps over the next few weeks.
Third set of Arnolds was brutal 20, 10, 5,5,5,5 each with a short pause my rear deltoids and front deltoids hurt so bad after I lifted, pains gone now but I definitely can tell I worked out today.
Weights:
9/19/2023Squats 3x6 235lbs Sumo Squat BB 4x10 225lbs Split squats w/ Barbell 4x8 95lbs Calf raise (straight, pro, sup) 4x10 185lbs Burnout Squats 2x50 115lbs 9/20/2023Flat BB bench 5x5 225 Incline DB bench 4x6 185 Dips 4x8 Bodyweight + 35lbs Flat bench flyes 3x50 40lbs(20lb each) Leaning single arms side deltoid raise 3x10 40lbs (20lbs ea) Chest supported deltoid raise 3x8 60lbs (30lbs ea) Front deltoid raises standing 4x8 40lbs (20lbs ea) Arnold press 3x50 30lbs (15lbs each)
Food is getting easier, I prefer solids but drink lots of egg white shakes because its quick and easy and good for me. Adding in more vegetables as well this next update.
Meals:
9/20/2023Protein 70 50 70 65 70 45 50 420Fat 15 7 20 10 20 20 20 112Carbs 20 25 8 22 8 21 12 116Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps Whey shake and banana almond milk and water Post workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs 2 cans of whole tuna, mayo, mustard and a small piece of whole grain multi grain bread. Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs yogurts; Oikos triple zeros, 1/4 cup mixed nuts Grilled chicken strips with fried chicken strips 9/21/2023Protein 70 70 70 67 45 67 40 429Fat 15 20 20 25 10.5 25 10 125.5Carbs 15 25 8 0 21 10 25 104Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and half banana, 4500Mg Omega 3 gel caps Pre workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs and whole banana Post workout Liquid Egg white(16oz of egg white) shake with almond butter and whole eggs 10oz ribeye yogurts; Oikos triple zeros 10oz ribeye, 2" piece of fresh bread Grilled chicken and carrots
Thanks for all the feedback and help along the journey.
Mark
I was keeping the bar 3” from my chest, my chest was getting so tight it felt that if I barely touched my chest for a rep that I would lose power to drive up. I am stronger on the eccentric on nearly every exercise not sure why. Monday when I hit chest I had full range and not as tight. The lightweight flys made my chest super tight and hours later the tone changed from tight to puffy which always happens and by 24 hours it’s tight definition again.Explain what you mean by the 3-inches?
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