My story -- All you young brothers please read!

[Punschkrapfen]

Would you please explain in scientific terms how dianabol
gains are temporary but gains from other roids are permanent??!!
Please someone explain this to me!It is BS ,IMHO.
Sure you lose the water when coming off but what is the difference in the muscle gained compared to another roid?!

there is none, but the gains with dianabol are skewed in favor of water weight instead of muscle mass. And most who do a dbol only cycle don't use recovery therapy and therefore they often not only lose the water but also the minimal gains they made. Dbol is a weak androgen, it should be stacked with test, deca or primo to get most out of it. But then it has some unique qualities that add to the success of the overall cycle.

 

[bazilbb]

there is none, but the gains with dianabol are skewed in favor of water weight instead of muscle mass. And most who do a dbol only cycle don't use recovery therapy and therefore they often not only lose the water but also the minimal gains they made. Dbol is a weak androgen, it should be stacked with test, deca or primo to get most out of it. But then it has some unique qualities that add to the success of the overall cycle.

u need to learn a lot babe
mg on mg basis dianabol has very few equals, try 350mg d-ball/week on a rookie and 350mg/wk test on a rookie and u will know what i am talking about, he will retain more muscles on d-ball only cycle more then any other roid--period.
BarPk

 

[IJ26]

Great post

 

[Themachine01]

very good post for the young guys

 

[body72]

Thumbs up for a good post!!
Stay on the safe side and respect AS they are not toys! I think that this is the way to go.

Bye
Body

 

[dumbell150]

Your comments are appreciated my friend!..Good Luck and be safe!

 

[JibbyJabba]

Would you please explain in scientific terms how dianabol
gains are temporary but gains from other roids are permanent??!!
Please someone explain this to me!It is BS ,IMHO.
Sure you lose the water when coming off but what is the difference in the muscle gained compared to another roid?!

I did not say that muscle gained with D-bol only was somehow physiologically different than muscle gained with another. Like Punschkrapfen said, you will have a substantially higher amount of water gains with a D-bol only cycle. (PAY ATTENTION NOW) A newbie does not know this is a temporary, pumped up condition, that he can expect to lose...he thinks he has gained new muscle. When he comes off and loses the water, he thinks he is drastically losing muscle...in an attempt to save face will all those who previously told him how bad ass he was looking, he gets ahold of some more D-bol tabs and the vicious cycle begins.

I am not pulling this scenario out of my ass... I know quite a few people (myself included) that went through this. Its due to two factors: 1) Newbie ignorance 2) D-bol tabs can be bought very cheap in bulk quantites by vets with online sources...these vets know that some eager newbie will turn around and buy these same tabs for $1-$2 a tab.

My point here is, that while a D-bol only cycle may yield some substantial gains, it is innapropriate for a beginner AS user. A newcomer to gear is mentally unprepared to gain 30 lbs while on cycle and then lose 10 of it due to loss of water...this leads to the exact sort of dependence Spunky is talking about.

So, bottomline, a young/new steroid user, as Spunky has said, has to show a greater strength of character and resist dependence on AS...my point, which I view as corollary to Spunky's, is that properly choosing your first cycle will help said newbie do this...

I am sorry If I seemed to be dissing on this dude, but I just wanted to open this up to discussion, not just say "good post bro"

BTW, good post bro...karma to you.

 

[Nathan]

Hope it gets better soon bro. As someone who has suffered seriously from anxiety and depression and all that jaz long before I ever started gear, I can say that it hasn't made my problems any worse but hasn't helped any. For me, it just changed the problems into something else. At least that something else I can now share with everyone here. Well, apart from some of the other problems but those never changed. I'll shut up now. Sigh.

 

[dodge1]

I also have dealt with anxiety for years before juicing. After many meds and just as many docs I now take nothing for it and deal with it as it comes along. I couldn't face the fact I needed meds for something the docs didn't know where it was coming from. Good luck Spunky.

 

[Spunky]

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