My Short-cycle experiment...

[dinoallbino]

what about a 6 week Sust250/dbol winny cycle?

I'm dunno much about this topic so if this looks totally retarded, pardon m'ignorance.

1-5 Sust250 @ 500mg/wk with wk1@1000mg
1-3 Russn Ddol @ 25mgED
3-6 Winny Depot @ 100mgEOD
HCG/nolva/clomid post cycle
R-ala/Green Tea/Milk Thistle Throughout.

This was gonna be a 10 weeker, but if this is a workable option, I might save the extra Sust for later on. jUST CURIOUS

 

[Nelson Montana]

Juice. maybe you misunderstood me. i said it's okay to frontload a little long lasting test up front to add aome androgen to what should be a mostly anabolic cycle. But you're doing a gram of test and 350 mgs of D-bol a week! There's a middle ground bro!

The primo/var cycle is great. You can even through in a sht of sus 250 up front for a kicker. That's all you need.

And just a reminder. This is a plan for slow steady permanent gains. It's not for competitors. And you can't expect to use the same tactics that don't work on long cycles for a short one and expect better gains.

 

[Dial_tone]

I would frontload 250-500mg Sust on the first day then do Primo or Fina ED along w/Dbol for the next 3 weeks. Probably more than Nelson suggests but a decent intro to the idea.

 

[Juice Authority]

Juice. maybe you misunderstood me. i said it's okay to frontload a little long lasting test up front to add aome androgen to what should be a mostly anabolic cycle. But you're doing a gram of test and 350 mgs of D-bol a week! There's a middle ground bro!

The primo/var cycle is great. You can even through in a sht of sus 250 up front for a kicker. That's all you need.

And just a reminder. This is a plan for slow steady permanent gains. It's not for competitors. And you can't expect to use the same tactics that don't work on long cycles for a short one and expect better gains.

The only anabolics I have are Winstrol, Anavar and some Masteron on the way. I also have a 20ml vial of Prop/Fina. what to do, what to do....?

 

[Juice Authority]

Ok, I just placed an order for Primos. I should have it in a few days. So Nelson, for the first week would it be ok to froatload the Test at a 1gm and switch to Primo and D-bol for weeks 2-3 or should I drop the D-bol and go with Anavar instead?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ok, I just placed an order for Primos. I should have it in a few days. So Nelson, for the first week would it be ok to froatload the Test at a 1gm and switch to Primo and D-bol for weeks 2-3 or should I drop the D-bol and go with Anavar instead?

Ideally, I'd do it this way, if you want to avoid sides.

25mgs of d-bol and 25mgs of var ED.

Igm of T is too much. If you do that, you're going to be supressed and need an anti e.

I'll keep it simple. Alternate days of 100mgs of test and 100mgs of primo fo two weeks, then drop the test.

On the third week, alternate the winny with the primo.

After the third week, do the proviron for another week along with the PF "Post-Cycle" (or comparable ingredients) and some avena for another 2 weeks.

Dude, if you eat enough protein and train like an animal, you're going to be hard as nails with no crash. Trust me.

 

[DeepZenPill]

The only anabolics I have are Winstrol, Anavar and some Masteron on the way. I also have a 20ml vial of Prop/Fina. what to do, what to do....?

Just a side note, Masteron is a very strong androgen, not really an anabolic.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Just a side note, Masteron is a very strong androgen, not really an anabolic.

Yeah, but it's DHT and won't aromatize.

 

[Goldprospector]

Now this is a good thread!
I was always under the assumption (and clarified by NM) that the short cycles were a way to gain a few maintainable pounds per cycle with little to no sides or suppression. I would think that the first cycle that was mentioned by JA would pack on quite a few pounds but would be hard to maintain.
I guess the whole short cycle theory is totally dependant on what the individuals goals are. My next will be primo/Var...and short just to give it a try.

 

[bigerisbetter]

I just started my first short cycle a few days ago. I will be doing

100mg ed of test prop
75mg ed of fina
30 mg ed d-bol

I will run this for three weeks. I will take 5 weeks off and start again. What would be the ideal post cycle plan for my cycle. I was thinking clomid and nolva for three weeks, starting 2 days after last shot.