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My new secretary is making me want to put a bullet in my head...

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she is making me completely insane.

I taught her, literally, 5 times how to pull up our worklist of tasks that are assigned to her and complete items. I took on her duties to update websites to clients about their cases because she sounded so clueless that she made no sense and came and asked me on every simple case. I told her, "you just work at completing your calendar items."

So, today I send her an email to set a sale date for a property in Jefferson County. She printed the email and then deleted the email. She came into my office and said, "did you send me this email." I said, "well that is my signature block at the bottom of the email, isn't it?" "Yes. Well, what do you want me to do?" "What does it say that I want you to do?" "Set a sale date, but you don't have the file number in the email." "I put it in the subject line." "I deleted the email."

OKAY....So I say, "I don't have time for this right now. Please print out your calendar worklist and compile a list of all the items I have set you a calendar item to schedule a sale date for Jefferson County. Then, call the master commissioner and give them a list so that they set them all on the same date"

BLANK STARE LIKE A MONKEY DOING CALCULUS.

"What is a calendar item?"


!!!!

I nearly fell over. This is the number one thing I taught her and what she was supposed to be doing for 3 weeks now!!!! She claimed "no one ever showed me that. I wasn't trained."

I did have to raise my voice a bit. "I TRAINED YOU TO DO IT, MANY TIMES NOW!!!"

Fuck me. She makes me want to put a bullet in my head.
 
no doubt. I'm hoping she quits or I'm going to fire her ass.
 
lol @ printing out an email and deleting it.

I used be in banking and this particular manager was a paper junkie. Printed out everything.
 
Ummm when you hired her. Did you ask her any questions that pertain to the job? How much are you paying her? Why don't you steal one of your opposing counsel's assistants?
 
Was she persuasive in her interview, I guess I'm asking did her answers come across as confident and self assured... I guess her resume was up to date and references checked out I'm assuming. I'm inferring the questions are relevant to the responsiblities... Maybe you are hiring based on familiarity of a certain type of person U dealt with in the past. My point is, hiring is not an exact science and it is common to hire mediocre people that can't handle responsibility... I would examine the pattern of your hiring, and try to remember what exactly drew you to that person... I know this is abstract, but of all the tens of millions of short men in the United States, a research study only produced 10 short men as CEO's for Fortune 500 companies, the real exception is Kenneth Chenault, as he is 5 9 and black, two minority things goin on...
My point is there are so many subconscious cues that go into hiring and you may wanna examine some of yours, there may be a pattern to U mishiring...
Sorry she's retarded... U are patient, and this must really be her millionth mistake... try to remember what u read in the Art of Happiness on her next mistake...
 
-Ariel- said:
...but of all the tens of millions of short men in the United States, a research study only produced 10 short men as CEO's for Fortune 500 companies...
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well everyone knows that short people fail in comparison to taller people. Its common knowledge....:D
 
-Ariel- said:
Was she persuasive in her interview, I guess I'm asking did her answers come across as confident and self assured... I guess her resume was up to date and references checked out I'm assuming. I'm inferring the questions are relevant to the responsiblities... Maybe you are hiring based on familiarity of a certain type of person U dealt with in the past. My point is, hiring is not an exact science and it is common to hire mediocre people that can't handle responsibility... I would examine the pattern of your hiring, and try to remember what exactly drew you to that person... I know this is abstract, but of all the tens of millions of short men in the United States, a research study only produced 10 short men as CEO's for Fortune 500 companies, the real exception is Kenneth Chenault, as he is 5 9 and black, two minority things goin on...
My point is there are so many subconscious cues that go into hiring and you may wanna examine some of yours, there may be a pattern to U mishiring...
Sorry she's retarded... U are patient, and this must really be her millionth mistake... try to remember what u read in the Art of Happiness on her next mistake...
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She seriously misrepresented the scope of her experience and abilities on her resume. Her references checked out because she is very likable.

I am VERY patient, but she makes me NUTS!

I'm back in the office now to type a memo on how to check a calendar.

Holy cow!
 
you should hire me!!! i'm a fast learner and i'd totally give you neck massages on MY breaks. i'd take the initiative and hide under your desk on "stressful" days. only if you're wearing a skirt though...
 
Cannot be any worse than the new Medical assistant who keeps sending me digital imaging scans from the fax inbox to my telephone incounters instead of assigning them to the pt that they belong to then sending them to my direct fax inbox..She is a complete ass, and the scary thing is she was a unit manager over at the local hospital just last year, yikes!
 
I thought the subject was displayed at the top of the email when you print it out? I guess it depends on the email app...I know outlook does it by default.
 
heatherrae said:
She seriously misrepresented the scope of her experience and abilities on her resume. Her references checked out because she is very likable.

I am VERY patient, but she makes me NUTS!

I'm back in the office now to type a memo on how to check a calendar.

Holy cow!
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Thats fucked up, forget the art of happiness...
can her.
 
heatherrae said:
she is making me completely insane.

I taught her, literally, 5 times how to pull up our worklist of tasks that are assigned to her and complete items. I took on her duties to update websites to clients about their cases because she sounded so clueless that she made no sense and came and asked me on every simple case. I told her, "you just work at completing your calendar items."

So, today I send her an email to set a sale date for a property in Jefferson County. She printed the email and then deleted the email. She came into my office and said, "did you send me this email." I said, "well that is my signature block at the bottom of the email, isn't it?" "Yes. Well, what do you want me to do?" "What does it say that I want you to do?" "Set a sale date, but you don't have the file number in the email." "I put it in the subject line." "I deleted the email."

OKAY....So I say, "I don't have time for this right now. Please print out your calendar worklist and compile a list of all the items I have set you a calendar item to schedule a sale date for Jefferson County. Then, call the master commissioner and give them a list so that they set them all on the same date"

BLANK STARE LIKE A MONKEY DOING CALCULUS.

"What is a calendar item?"


!!!!

I nearly fell over. This is the number one thing I taught her and what she was supposed to be doing for 3 weeks now!!!! She claimed "no one ever showed me that. I wasn't trained."

I did have to raise my voice a bit. "I TRAINED YOU TO DO IT, MANY TIMES NOW!!!"

Fuck me. She makes me want to put a bullet in my head.
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You're a woman.. Im sure most people make you want to put a bullet in your head.
 
you raised your voice?? would that be a hostile work environment?? does your firm have a policy against that/? or will they send you to training??
 
She must have had a standard probation period in her contract. She is new. If she's not performing, fire her and hire someone else. Aren't you a legal office? This is normal procedure.

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heatherrae said:
she is making me completely insane.

I taught her, literally, 5 times how to pull up our worklist of tasks that are assigned to her and complete items. I took on her duties to update websites to clients about their cases because she sounded so clueless that she made no sense and came and asked me on every simple case. I told her, "you just work at completing your calendar items."

So, today I send her an email to set a sale date for a property in Jefferson County. She printed the email and then deleted the email. She came into my office and said, "did you send me this email." I said, "well that is my signature block at the bottom of the email, isn't it?" "Yes. Well, what do you want me to do?" "What does it say that I want you to do?" "Set a sale date, but you don't have the file number in the email." "I put it in the subject line." "I deleted the email."

OKAY....So I say, "I don't have time for this right now. Please print out your calendar worklist and compile a list of all the items I have set you a calendar item to schedule a sale date for Jefferson County. Then, call the master commissioner and give them a list so that they set them all on the same date"

BLANK STARE LIKE A MONKEY DOING CALCULUS.

"What is a calendar item?"


!!!!

I nearly fell over. This is the number one thing I taught her and what she was supposed to be doing for 3 weeks now!!!! She claimed "no one ever showed me that. I wasn't trained."

I did have to raise my voice a bit. "I TRAINED YOU TO DO IT, MANY TIMES NOW!!!"

Fuck me. She makes me want to put a bullet in my head.
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Do you need a 72 hr hold???? :worried:
 
Heather, you should go through a service that specializes in your field.. that way they work as temps you pay a little more in the begining however this is the only way you truly find a candidate.. good luck .. Ive been in your spot a time or two.. stressful.. well at least she fixed your coffee I hope..lolm.... If you use a service send a list of qualifications ..
 
I feel for you.

I have had to train some fairly slow on the uptake peeps before, and I still am.


If you don't sort it now, it will go on for ages.

One of our office ladies has consistently made serious data entry errors, most of them we find, but she has about 5 clinical incidents under her belt.

I don' t think anyone even bothers telling her anymore she is so stroppy about it as it wasn't sorted in the first place.
 
Arabian said:
Heather, you should go through a service that specializes in your field.. that way they work as temps you pay a little more in the begining however this is the only way you truly find a candidate.. good luck .. Ive been in your spot a time or two.. stressful.. well at least she fixed your coffee I hope..lolm.... If you use a service send a list of qualifications ..
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She does make great coffee and brought me a cream puff the other day...lol.


I had a "get real" memo and meeting this morning. My whole staff is pissed at me now...lol. I told them that if I or the other attorney tell them a procedure, they had better print it out and put it in a folder for reference because I now have a "three strikes" rule in place. You fail to follow procedure once and you get a verbal warning, twice is written warning and third time you are FIRED.

I found out she is playing stupid with me, because the things I was showing her yesterday, the other attorney had already sent her a step by step memo on what to do.
 
Tatyana said:
I feel for you.

I have had to train some fairly slow on the uptake peeps before, and I still am.


If you don't sort it now, it will go on for ages.

One of our office ladies has consistently made serious data entry errors, most of them we find, but she has about 5 clinical incidents under her belt.

I don' t think anyone even bothers telling her anymore she is so stroppy about it as it wasn't sorted in the first place.
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Well, they know better now. She is going to be fired in two weeks if all of her stuff isn't up to date. I lost patience with her as of yesterday.
 
Just curious, how good were her people skills, they must have been great to hide some defiiciencies...
Does she come across as confident? Caring? Eager to do a good job...
I'm just curious, I mean you have seen alot of bullshit, so it would make sense for you to be able to discern, even with a 6th sense like quality bullshit that comes through your office.
 
-Ariel- said:
Just curious, how good were her people skills, they must have been great to hide some defiiciencies...
Does she come across as confident? Caring? Eager to do a good job...
I'm just curious, I mean you have seen alot of bullshit, so it would make sense for you to be able to discern, even with a 6th sense like quality bullshit that comes through your office.
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She is a grandmotherly type who came across as someone who was so detail oriented as to border of obsessive compulsive type behavior, which, believe it or not, is a great trait in a law office. However, she is that way about miniscule things that don't help anything and seriously is missing the big picture. I now know that she can't think on her own. You have to tell her how to do EVERYTHING. I was showing her the calendar list of her tasks and she started re-writing all the items on a legal pad for some unexplainable reason. I said, "just print it if you want to work from a hard copy." "Oh, you can print it? HOW?" I was thinking, "Gee, I don't know woman, maybe by clicking on that big icon at the top that says 'PRINT' in bold flashy letters!"

She really makes me crazy.

I was in a rush to hire someone because my last secretary moved suddenly and only gave 2 weeks notice and I wanted someone to come in immediately so that the other secretary could train her for 2 weeks before she left.
 
heatherrae said:
She is a grandmotherly type who came across as someone who was so detail oriented as to border of obsessive compulsive type behavior, which, believe it or not, is a great trait in a law office. However, she is that way about miniscule things that don't help anything and seriously is missing the big picture. I now know that she can't think on her own. You have to tell her how to do EVERYTHING. I was showing her the calendar list of her tasks and she started re-writing all the items on a legal pad for some unexplainable reason. I said, "just print it if you want to work from a hard copy." "Oh, you can print it? HOW?" I was thinking, "Gee, I don't know woman, maybe by clicking on that big icon at the top that says 'PRINT' in bold flashy letters!"

She really makes me crazy.

I was in a rush to hire someone because my last secretary moved suddenly and only gave 2 weeks notice and I wanted someone to come in immediately so that the other secretary could train her for 2 weeks before she left.
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Yeah the obsessive compulsive would throw any one for a loop, and grandmotherly type, who doesn't want a secretary like that? Well she wreaked of promise... subconscious associations blow sometimes...
Well with her and shit talking drama secretary, which you've now experienced both polarities of inefficiency, hopefully third time is a charm.
 
-Ariel- said:
Yeah the obsessive compulsive would throw any one for a loop, and grandmotherly type, who doesn't want a secretary like that? Well she wreaked of promise... subconscious associations blow sometimes...
Well with her and shit talking drama secretary, which you've now experienced both polarities of inefficiency, hopefully third time is a charm.
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I'll take my time hiring the new employee. I'm looking at resumes now to bring on another secretary. If the new one is good, I will probably fire this one and then have time to look for the another one to take her place.
 
heatherrae said:
I'll take my time hiring the new employee. I'm looking at resumes now to bring on another secretary. If the new one is good, I will probably fire this one and then have time to look for the another one to take her place.
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I can do special things:qt:
 
heatherrae said:
She is a grandmotherly type who came across as someone who was so detail oriented as to border of obsessive compulsive type behavior, which, believe it or not, is a great trait in a law office. However, she is that way about miniscule things that don't help anything and seriously is missing the big picture. I now know that she can't think on her own. You have to tell her how to do EVERYTHING. I was showing her the calendar list of her tasks and she started re-writing all the items on a legal pad for some unexplainable reason. I said, "just print it if you want to work from a hard copy." "Oh, you can print it? HOW?" I was thinking, "Gee, I don't know woman, maybe by clicking on that big icon at the top that says 'PRINT' in bold flashy letters!"

She really makes me crazy.

I was in a rush to hire someone because my last secretary moved suddenly and only gave 2 weeks notice and I wanted someone to come in immediately so that the other secretary could train her for 2 weeks before she left.
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Keep in mind, you are working in Kentucky.
 
heatherrae said:
I'll take my time hiring the new employee. I'm looking at resumes now to bring on another secretary. If the new one is good, I will probably fire this one and then have time to look for the another one to take her place.
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Call a temp agency, have them start Monday, fire her ass now. You will live a long and happy life if you do this. You already have spent too much energy dealing with this.
 
heatherrae said:
no doubt. I'm hoping she quits or I'm going to fire her ass.
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There was one woman in particular that seemed competent enough when I interviewed her. One week in I realized that the bitch needed to go. (I began a thread about her on elite matter of fact. LOL)

Fire her. She is obviously not up to the task at hand. Fire her now so you can stop expending YOUR precious energy (which makes you LESS productive) showing her stuff again and again that she should have been able to do 2 weeks ago. It would be a better expenditure of YOUR TIME to hire someone better suited to the position so that YOU can be more productive sooner.

Remember, you aren't there to make friends. You are there to make money. If someone is causing you MORE WORK or causing you to be LESS PRODUCTIVE they are COSTING you time and/or money.

It is really very cut and dry IMHO
 
I didn't see the Grump's suggestion of a temp agency. Excellent suggestion IMHO. If the temp works out you can hire her on full time.
 
heatherrae said:
She's in her 50's and a grandma...lol.
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There's your problem. When you hire older people you risk the chance they barely know how to operate a computer or have any technology common sense. Obviously not all older people, many in their 50's know their shit, but hiring people in the younger generations, computers/technology has been more ingrained in their life.
 
i guess you didn't check her references?
 
stilleto said:
i guess you didn't check her references?
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Actually, I DID, and they gave her great reviews. I think it is the likability factor.

She is going to our corporate office on today for training, and the other secretary told me that she said she planned on complaining about ME to the owners because she wasn't trained, etc.

I'm so going to fire her ass immediately when she gets back.
 
walliwalibus said:
Easy now, remember she is also human. Take a breath........................ Now fire her!
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LOL...this gal seriously makes me want to kill her. She did bring me cream puffs one day, though. Maybe if she did it every day I would keep her.
 
Your on to something there. Bribe her into keeping job, but along with the cream puffs, she has to do her job.

I would load her down so bad she quit. I would just pile it on. Hell pull old stuff and make her redo. Give her three days work and tell her it needs to be done in one. Piss her off HR. Make her quit.
 
walliwalibus said:
Your on to something there. Bribe her into keeping job, but along with the cream puffs, she has to do her job.

I would load her down so bad she quit. I would just pile it on. Hell pull old stuff and make her redo. Give her three days work and tell her it needs to be done in one. Piss her off HR. Make her quit.
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She said on Friday to the other secretary that she might not come back. I would feel no loss if she didn't.
 
Yeah hell, you'd be better off, less stressed, and you could always buy a few cream puffs and snacky cakes for the day. But have another secretary make the coffee. Why are secretaries so good at making the coffee? And why are women only secretaries?
 
walliwalibus said:
Yeah hell, you'd be better off, less stressed, and you could always buy a few cream puffs and snacky cakes for the day. But have another secretary make the coffee. Why are secretaries so good at making the coffee? And why are women only secretaries?
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I would consider hiring a male secretary/paralegal equally with the female applicants, but I honestly haven't even ever gotten one resume from a male. For some reason not many enter the field.
 
heatherrae said:
Actually, I DID, and they gave her great reviews. I think it is the likability factor.

She is going to our corporate office on today for training, and the other secretary told me that she said she planned on complaining about ME to the owners because she wasn't trained, etc.

I'm so going to fire her ass immediately when she gets back.
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Is this not THE SECOND CASE of having incompetence mess w/your professional life and you feelings sorta badly about them being/or being in line to BE fired?

One of the hardest things I had to do was fire a woman that worked for me who was old enough to be my mother. She was like 60 something. Heckuva nice lady... but she didn't listen to a FUCKING THING I told her to do or not to do. She just went and did it "her way" regardless of how many times I told her to STOP.

I stressed FOR WEEKS over firing her. I mean, how could I? She was old enough to be MY MOTHER. After I did it, it was like a HYUGE weight was off my back. She was THAT BAD at the job. The woman was nice and likeable but completely incompetent and disobedient.

FIRE HER AND FORGET ABOUT IT.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Is this not THE SECOND CASE of having incompetence mess w/your professional life and you feelings sorta badly about them being/or being in line to BE fired?

One of the hardest things I had to do was fire a woman that worked for me who was old enough to be my mother. She was like 60 something. Heckuva nice lady... but she didn't listen to a FUCKING THING I told her to do or not to do. She just went and did it "her way" regardless of how many times I told her to STOP.

I stressed FOR WEEKS over firing her. I mean, how could I? She was old enough to be MY MOTHER. After I did it, it was like a HYUGE weight was off my back. She was THAT BAD at the job. The woman was nice and likeable but completely incompetent and disobedient.

FIRE HER AND FORGET ABOUT IT.
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I'm going to. Trust me. The fact that she had the BALLS to try and go up there and fuck with me after I've been bending over backwards to put up with her acting completely stupid/incompetent has made up my mind.
 
heatherrae said:
I'm going to. Trust me. The fact that she had the BALLS to try and go up there and fuck with me after I've been bending over backwards to put up with her acting completely stupid/incompetent has made up my mind.
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:)

I will see you in hell, my dear. BTW did you finally get rid of that nasty pussy?
 
what happened to the other bish that was driving you crazy? and now this one is driving you crazy too? hummm
 
LOL...I got a phone call from one of the attorneys up in ohio saying that she was talking smack about me up there....evidently I'm a bitch who gets all over her just for asking a simple question...LOL.

He asked me if I would like for him to send me the forms for firing someone...ha ha ha.
 
i have an intern that i'm in charge of. I didn't hire him, although I probably would have. for a lot of things, he's great, but he didn't seem to understand that *i* am his boss. He wouldn't tell me if he wasn't coming in. he didn't tell me about a change in his schedule or what he's working on. I would think he was doing one thing that I asked of him, only to find out he was spending a few days working on a proposal that nobody asked for.

I finally had to have a talk with him and I told him i just wanted to make sure he understood the chain of command and what that meant, and also what I expected of him. He understood, but I later wrote an email, which I cc'd the CEO on and very nicely summarized what we spoke about. There would be no more confusion and everything has been great ever since.

sometimes, people need a clear message of what is expected, and sometimes you may not realize that you aren't communicating well to them either. It's very easy to think that someone knows what you're talking about, but maybe she absorbs things slower, or maybe you need to start further back.
 
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i have an intern that i'm in charge of. I didn't hire him, although I probably would have. for a lot of things, he's great, but he didn't seem to understand that *i* am his boss. He wouldn't tell me if he wasn't coming in. he didn't tell me about a change in his schedule or what he's working on. I would think he was doing one thing that I asked of him, only to find out he was spending a few days working on a proposal that nobody asked for.

I finally had to have a talk with him and I told him i just wanted to make sure he understood the chain of command and what that meant, and also what I expected of him. He understood, but I later wrote an email, which I cc'd the CEO on and very nicely summarized what we spoke about. There would be no more confusion and everything has been great ever since.

sometimes, people need a clear message of what is expected, and sometimes you may not realize that you aren't communicating well to them either. It's very easy to think that someone knows what you're talking about, but maybe she absorbs things slower, or maybe you need to start further back.
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I'm going to try, I suppose. However, the fact with the email message...I mean, come ON -- should I start in kindergarten and teach her to READ? lol.
 
heatherrae said:
I'm going to try, I suppose. However, the fact with the email message...I mean, come ON -- should I start in kindergarten and teach her to READ? lol.
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Stiletto brings up a very good point. Sometimes we aren't all on the same wave length and that is why I used to bend over backwards to help my employees excel. However, I still had to end up letting a lot of people go.

I used to say it all the time, "If you are unwilling or unable to accept my help then you are clearly too stupid to work for me."

The fact that this bitch tried to go over your head to complain that you "aren't training her" so as to circumvent you being able to fire her tells me a lot about the type of person she is. She would NOT BE someone that I would want working for me. If she truly felt overwhelmed and wasn't able to be productive she should have been all up in your shit asking for help. You don't strike me as the type that would ignore a request for help from ANYONE, least of all someone who is supposed to be working for you.
 
BIKINIMOM said:
Stiletto brings up a very good point. Sometimes we aren't all on the same wave length and that is why I used to bend over backwards to help my employees excel. However, I still had to end up letting a lot of people go.

I used to say it all the time, "If you are unwilling or unable to accept my help then you are clearly too stupid to work for me."

The fact that this bitch tried to go over your head to complain that you "aren't training her" so as to circumvent you being able to fire her tells me a lot about the type of person she is. She would NOT BE someone that I would want working for me. If she truly felt overwhelmed and wasn't able to be productive she should have been all up in your shit asking for help. You don't strike me as the type that would ignore a request for help from ANYONE, least of all someone who is supposed to be working for you.
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I'm actually known for being a VERY patient person with people. She really, really tries my patience, though. She is the only one who doesn't "get it" that I'm just trying to make the office run well.
 
a really good employee would go to you and tell you that you aren't training her adequately. She'd figure out a way to tell you that didn't insult you, or make her seem stupid.

they would not go over your head to complain.

I've been in situations where my manager wasn't training me well. I learn fast too, but of course i'm not a mind reader. I had to tell them that I'd like to take a step back and learn the acronyms of the business, or her codewords for things, or I asked if there was some kind of software tutorial i could take.
as a manager now myself, I can tell you that i feel warmth for an employee who asks that stuff, and it makes me realize that I haven't been doing a good enough job teaching.
 
stilleto said:
a really good employee would go to you and tell you that you aren't training her adequately. She'd figure out a way to tell you that didn't insult you, or make her seem stupid.

they would not go over your head to complain.

I've been in situations where my manager wasn't training me well. I learn fast too, but of course i'm not a mind reader. I had to tell them that I'd like to take a step back and learn the acronyms of the business, or her codewords for things, or I asked if there was some kind of software tutorial i could take.
as a manager now myself, I can tell you that i feel warmth for an employee who asks that stuff, and it makes me realize that I haven't been doing a good enough job teaching.
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Yeah, but say that you trained her how to get an auction date for a property last week. Then she asked you again this week and you explained it again. Then, you overhear her bugging the lady in the cubicle over to show her. Then, you overhear another attorney explaining it to her yet a 4th time. That is EXACTLY what she did. Then, she complains to the owners that no one will train her. Her best friend, who recommended her to me even wants me to fire her and says, "i feel so bad that I recommended her. I don't know why she is acting so SLOW."
 
I think you are just poorly matched and do not process things the same way - in other words no amount of training on your part or anyone else's will bring her to right playing field for you.

Find someone else and let her go.
 
velvett said:
I think you are just poorly matched and do not process things the same way - in other words no amount of training on your part or anyone else's will bring her to right playing field for you.

Find someone else and let her go.
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this was the opinion of another attorney from our ohio office from meeting her today and listening to her complain about my not training her. He seemed to think that she wasn't ready for the level of responsibility of the position, because it requires quite a great deal of problem solving and independent thinking. I have no doubt that she can type, etc. but I found out that everything must be spelled out to the letter for her or she completely freaks out and freezes up and blames others. This isn't the kind of position where it is possible to spell out ever possible scenario.

I'm in the office tonight still, with the baby on my lap, doing HER work.

Sigh.
 
heatherrae said:
Yeah, but say that you trained her how to get an auction date for a property last week. Then she asked you again this week and you explained it again. Then, you overhear her bugging the lady in the cubicle over to show her. Then, you overhear another attorney explaining it to her yet a 4th time. That is EXACTLY what she did. Then, she complains to the owners that no one will train her. Her best friend, who recommended her to me even wants me to fire her and says, "i feel so bad that I recommended her. I don't know why she is acting so SLOW."
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from an outsider point of view, maybe the fact that she isn't usually slow and also had good references means that what you think is good training, was not.

it could be that you don't realize you're using buzzwords or codewords that she's not used to, which makes processing new information almost impossible.
or perhaps you're moving at a faster pace than what she's used to. My own mother is very very smart, but when teaching her something or reading to her, she requires me to go MUCH slower than I am used to.

you might also be switching gears too often.

I am not blaming you, just playing the 'devil's advocate'.

try just talking to her and asking her what the problem is.
 
stilleto said:
from an outsider point of view, maybe the fact that she isn't usually slow and also had good references means that what you think is good training, was not.

it could be that you don't realize you're using buzzwords or codewords that she's not used to, which makes processing new information almost impossible.
or perhaps you're moving at a faster pace than what she's used to. My own mother is very very smart, but when teaching her something or reading to her, she requires me to go MUCH slower than I am used to.

you might also be switching gears too often.

I am not blaming you, just playing the 'devil's advocate'.

try just talking to her and asking her what the problem is.
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I'm sure that I DO that! That is me at the office. I come buzzing in all cracked out on caffeine and hyper wanting to get 300 things done. I work hard and fast and like someone who has a bit of a crazy ass maverick in them like I do. I freak her out. I know that I do. I just hoped she would grow some thick skin, take some notes and take some INITIATIVE. However, she doesn't have it in her. She plays this "I'm helpless" game with men that usually gets her put on easier assignments. That doesnt play well with another woman.

The male attorney in our office told me today that she came to him and said that my expectation that she get her work up to date in two weeks or get a written reprimand was too demanding and there was no way she could do it. Take into account I've been working nights and weekends on HER WORK for weeks now. I'm in the office with a one year old sleeping on my shoulder! Without consulting me, he gave her a "more reasonable deadline of half of her work being caught up. I said NO! She is expected to do her work just like anyone else. I HATE when women play this game at work. If we want to be treated equal to men, we better not play the helpless damsel in distress every time we are given a challenge. It really irks me to no end.
 
At this point, I really want her gone. She lied on her resume and she annoys the piss out of me, frankly. I just cant put any faith in her.
 
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