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MY LAST BULK, LOG, its gonna get ridiculous.....

thatbloke

thatbloke

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okay guys so ive decided to do 1 last bulk

basically mainly for health reasons, im pretty happy with my size and dont think i can go alot further without doing some serious damage to my health, or facing some long term health effects, or fo course using alot more gear lol

if any future blasts i do pursue, they will be VERY mild and basicaly maintaince to bring up any muscle losses, or a mild cutter for summer, nothing aggresive

anyways since it my last bulk im going all out

STATS

5'10
bodyweight: 230
bf% not sure, below 10%, will post pictures of course in next 1-2 days

GOALS: to get as big and strong as possible, as fast as possible, fat gains dont give a shit about, hopefully hit 255 pounds and be fukin strong

THE CYCLE
Xtrme test (blend of prop/cyp) 700mg weekly weeks 1-10
deca durabolin 300mg weekly weeks 1-10
tren ethanthate weeks 1-10 500-600mg, not sure, wanna do 600mg but worried about sides
anadrol 100mg daily, weeks 1-2,
anadrol 50mg daily weeks 3-4

current lifts

squat 485X4 (just started squating again past 2-3 weeks)
bench: 352X5
incline bench: 315X6 (had 405X1 end of last cycle)
JM press: 220X6
one arm dumbell rows: 200X20
t bar rows: 440X3
one legged lying hamsting curl: 150X7
machine front squat: 640X5
bench barbell row: 315X10 strict form
barbell shrugs: 484X10
wide grip upright row: 200X5
standing calve raise: 700X12
alternating dumbell curls: 60X10, strict form

deadlift: dont know, priorotizing my squats atm, im sure shrugs, t bar rows and squats combined will keep my deadlift strong

going to try focus on free wi\eights this cycle and avoid all machine work IF possible, obvious cant avoid machines completely

diet: not going to outlay, will basically be high protein with shit loads of carbs n fat
 
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very interested in your pct for that mate :)
looks epic!
also dont you beleive in running test longer than deca?
 
sweet
are you on TRT or do you just like to cruise if you dont mind me askin?

must be a good feeling knowing 99 percent of what your gunna gain on this cycle you will keep :)
provided suff cal intake/training etc
 
Good luck bloke , good to see you back on track after all that shit you went through bro.

This is a bad-boy bulk, keep an eye on your BP man .
 
no such thing as one last bulk lol
 
Epic it exactly the right word for this bro. Keep an eye on BP and cholestrol dude.
Be safe my good man.
 
dude im excited to see some pics man, good luck dude this is gonna be fuckin awesome, I dont see why you wont get AT LEAST your goals.
 
With that amount of drugs and with the weights you are lifting gaining up to 255lbs shouldn't be a problem, whatsoever.

The key will be food. It's not the amount of drugs used so much as drugs+LOTS OF FOOD.

If you really want to bulk up like that then you need to eat and you need to pack in calories, period.

I'm 5'8.5" and 250lbs, but I'm nowhere near you in bodyfat. On the other hand I don't look that bad and I've put on 50lbs in the past 8 months using no more than 500mg test ew alone and a good half that time using only 375mg ew.

More anabolics means more gains, but without enough calories, enough protein, enough CALORIES it doesn't mean a whole lot.

The reason I gain so much, granted probably 25%-40% of the weight I have gained is fat, but the rest is solid muscle, is from eating alot.

It doesn't take a boatload of anabolics to get big if you are slinging heavy iron and eating alot.

There is no excuse for you not to hit minimum 255lbs with that amount of drugs in your body.

If you don't hit your goal you weren't eating enough.

Good luck Thatbloke, I know you can do it.
 
Yeah that is one dam nice avi pic bro. You a lucky man!
 
Is it just the way you posing or does the one side of ur back look bigger? just curious.. Would be nice if you posted em for the non plats..:qt:
 
lookin good man, you are a F-IN BEAST!!! I have f'ed shoulders too, its usually just the right but sometimes the left gives me problems too. Have you thought about dropping the wide grip upright rows? I love these, its great for shoulders but I think this is one of the main exercises that fucked me up in the first place so I stopped them and I think its helping it heal. I have heard of that exercise fuckin alot of dudes shoulders up. You know what your shoulder can handle better than anyone else and by no means are you a rook in the gym. just thought I would throw in my 2 cents.

keep killin it man
 
thatbloke said:
hahaha thanks man,

yea its the right shoulder but its not the uprghts causing me discomfort, its always the presses and benching thats causing me problems, and i get discomfort doing pulls ups sometiems and curls, its hard to figure out wat exactly becoz its not until im 3-4 sets into working out that the pain comes and feels liek ym shoulder wants to pop out
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Could be a warning sign from rotator cuffs bro....upright rows hurt like a SOB when mine was injured.
 
That tren at 600mg should give you some nice night sweats!

Looking beast man keep up the good work
 
thatbloke said:
progress pics
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Your back is jacked but your arms are small for your size. You are a strong beast but I would recommend keeping all reps between 6-12 which is the best for muscle gains as opposed to just pure strenght (1-5 reps). You will still get stronger and it will help to put on more muscle, that's a fact jack.
 
WinnyPumps said:
Your back is jacked but your arms are small for your size. You are a strong beast but I would recommend keeping all reps between 6-12 which is the best for muscle gains as opposed to just pure strenght (1-5 reps). You will still get stronger and it will help to put on more muscle, that's a fact jack.
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bro, his arms are 18 inches cold
 
You ever think about bulking up to like 265-275 and trying some strongman competitions?

I'm looking at your pics and you have a good physique, but you might be surprised if you try to step on stage to get a pro card.

My coach is a very big and very powerfully built powerlifter and he actually tried a bodybuilding competition and he placed dead last because he just didn't have the proportions.

Bodybuilding is all about proportions. Most of the mass monsters you see on stage actually started out small or average in size, but had very good proportions. Then you add in huge amounts of drugs, years of hard training and eating and you get their current look.

I'm not trying to be a downer, but I myself came to the realization one day that while I had a decent build I would never have the proportions to seriously compete.

I'm not saying I don't think you couldn't do well, but looking at the pics of guys that have gotten their pro cards you would have your hands full bro in all honesty. You really can't have a single bodypart that isn't badass.

Even the pro's that appear to have muscles that don't respond as well as other's still have superior shape and attachments points compared to most guys.
 
but hey bloke if you go in the comps,after you get sponsored and all,and if you do get the pro card,i wouldn't turn it down lol..you never know,anything could happen
 
ghettostudmuffin said:
You ever think about bulking up to like 265-275 and trying some strongman competitions?

I'm looking at your pics and you have a good physique, but you might be surprised if you try to step on stage to get a pro card.

My coach is a very big and very powerfully built powerlifter and he actually tried a bodybuilding competition and he placed dead last because he just didn't have the proportions.

Bodybuilding is all about proportions. Most of the mass monsters you see on stage actually started out small or average in size, but had very good proportions. Then you add in huge amounts of drugs, years of hard training and eating and you get their current look.

I'm not trying to be a downer, but I myself came to the realization one day that while I had a decent build I would never have the proportions to seriously compete.

I'm not saying I don't think you couldn't do well, but looking at the pics of guys that have gotten their pro cards you would have your hands full bro in all honesty. You really can't have a single bodypart that isn't badass.

Even the pro's that appear to have muscles that don't respond as well as other's still have superior shape and attachments points compared to most guys.
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Unfortunately you're right.......

No matter how shredded I get, I'll never be able to compete because of my long legs, short torso, and wide hips.
 
dam man your killin it, I saw a few workouts ago you were doin upright rows with over 200? wtf man? thats ridiculous especally if there full ROM. keep it up dude your a f-in beast, I think im strong till I come in here, humbling to say the least. lol o well first cycle now at 23 for me, so i got nothin but time. keep it up man, i dig the log
 
thatbloke said:
lol hahaha we all have our weaknesses

mines ice cream:biggrin:
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Mmmmmmmm, I have soft serve occasionally haha.

Looking good man, you are pretty fuckin strong.

Thats a pretty natty stack your using, maybe the tingly fingers is a side effect of some combo of that shit.
 
thatbloke;9981071 NOTES: finally benched the over 400 mark said:
Congrats man! Getting over a mark like that feels awesome!

And yea you're not alone, lately I've been having the same thing happen where my incline and decline are rcketing but my flat is weak......weird shit.....
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your back doesn't just look like wings it look like a damn jet pack :evil:
 
Hey Bloke, been away for a while so maybe have missed it but, how is your pct gonna look?
Uve been on for quite a while....
 
yo beast,
i have always trained as a powerlifter myself... id say growth is almost 100% diet... your genetics for arms are probably why (you think) they are so small (which i dont think they are)... you just have other body parts that are getting freakish...
as far as your bench goes, it is fairly proportional to your dead and squats from a powerlifter's prospective... about 100lbs between each right? its not that far behind... trian it right at you will have it up to 450, youre working hard bro...
 
hey man i liek it,strenght gets crazy stron quick,you get that mass look,and if u do light cardio wiht good diet youll get ripped whats not to like lol....i will say anyone who is thinking to do this type of training,man cruise on decca,my joints are always throbing,get on that decca dont stay in pain
 
thatbloke said:
agree ive always been a beleiever size is determined by genetics and diet, im sure the way you train will effect this to to some point (e.g rep ranges) but im a big bleiever your genetics and diet determine if your massive and ripped, or athletici and fukin strong

lol thanks man about the arms, they use to really bother me, not so much anymore now, but agree my genetics are responsible for why i find it hard to develop my arms, but owell, just motivates ya more to work harder

yea ur right about the bench, now that i think about it its pretty solid considering i dotn really focus on training for powerlifting or bodybuilding, btw i was going through ur LOG and noticed u seem to carry very similar genes to me, great back and legs size and strength, but stubborn chest, although i think ur arm genes kik mines in the arse lol
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well i would be absolutely honored for you to say we have similar genetics for our back and leg growth, though obviously i have a much smaller frame and could never match your size... though i know you are speaking proportion wise...
funny you say that about my arms, as i have felt they are just pathetic in size... i have only started really training them hard for the contest, as my main focus has always been powerlifting, though i will admit they have changed a lot in the last 8 weeks, so maybe they arent as bad as ive though...
wicked hard work on that front squat machine... i wish my gym had more variety in machines like that...

im definately running deca my next cycle... i did npp a couple cycles back and my joints felt the best ever... though i will admit mine only really get achy when i use an AI...

KILL THAT SHIT!!!
 
that's about the same weight i curl :p lmao jk you're a beast bro :evil:
 
dude thats pretty F-IN crazy. The heavest I have gone were the 120's for 12. I may try and beat my PR today after that video, even though Im on fairly low carbs I can probably get it done. lol damn impressed dude keep it up
 
thatbloke said:
Glad to hear mate :)

DAY 44

Workout

weighted pull ups to chest
bodyweight+ 110X4
bodyweight+ 120X3

weighted pull ups behind the neck
bodyweight+100X5
bodyweight+120X3

weighted pull ups to chest, hammer grip
bodyweight+140X4

weighted chinups
bodyweight+140X3
bodyweight+60X15

one handed T bar row
5 plates, 6 reps
4 1/2 plates 10 reps

one handed isolateral row, hammer and wide grip
5 plates 8 reps
4 plates 15 reps
5 plates 10 reps
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dude take it easy freak!!!! wtf??? thats ridiculous. your pullups and chins are unbelievable. quick question, when your doin your pullups, how far are you pullin yourseslf up to? hands to about eye level, hands to chest? i do those one handed iso rows too, first time was a few weeks ago, I love em. keep it up man.
 
WinnyPumps said:
I personally don't get the point of 3 rep sets of pull ups but to each his own. You're a strong beast.
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ya me either really, it doesnt seem like much hypertrophy would happen in that rep range, but a while back i think i remember him saying he has seen better gains with those lower reps, every body is diff so if it aint broke dont fix it. if your getting stronger your most likely going to get bigger, but i prefer to train the opposite, training for size and the strength will come with size.

keep it up bro
 
the human back is made for dynamic pulling...
believe me, pulling up all that weight is causing plenty of micro-tears in his muscles... and when he rests and eats it is built upon...
the pump is sooo overrated imo... although i do believe a good enough pump can be achieved at very low reps, it takes more of a mind-muscle connection...
some of the best backs on this board have been built using lower rep heavy training... guys like joe d, big BK, and right here, thatbloke...
 
Run decca at a little higher dosage, run the anadrol at 100 mgs throughout the 4 weeks...you can even run it longer for 6 weeks. I would also lose the tren (I don't like tren, IMO it's dirty) Everything else looks legit.
 
I don't agree with very low rep sets because the muscle is not under tension long enough to promote hypertrophy, thats a fact. Of course he is going to grow by lifting weights in general while doing a boat load of aas on a surplus of calories. What I'm saying is trying to get stronger in the 8-12 rep range most of the time with ensure pure muscle gains. Also when someone is doing a 3 rep set of pull ups with an extra 100lbs strapped to them chances are the reps are sloppy with most of it being momentum therefore only using maybe 50% of pure back muscle. The actual muscle just isn't being worked that hard as it's mostly momentum especially doing 3 quick reps. I'm just a big fan of the tried and true.
 
WinnyPumps said:
I don't agree with very low rep sets because the muscle is not under tension long enough to promote hypertrophy, thats a fact. Of course he is going to grow by lifting weights in general while doing a boat load of aas on a surplus of calories. What I'm saying is trying to get stronger in the 8-12 rep range most of the time with ensure pure muscle gains. Also when someone is doing a 3 rep set of pull ups with an extra 100lbs strapped to them chances are the reps are sloppy with most of it being momentum therefore only using maybe 50% of pure back muscle. The actual muscle just isn't being worked that hard as it's mostly momentum especially doing 3 quick reps. I'm just a big fan of the tried and true.
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forum is over rated,if u wanna get big and strong u take forum and u throw that shit out the window,when ur benching ins the 400's squats,pull ups whatever it is,thats so much weight u cant focus on forum u just gotta do the movement.I have done high reps(8-10) and low reps,i respond better to low reps(4-6)..i got stretch marks all over form this lower rep training,i have grown alot and i am alot stronger,u train with low reps for strength your muscle have no choice but to grow from tearing.
 
thelocal said:
forum is over rated,if u wanna get big and strong u take forum and u throw that shit out the window,when ur benching ins the 400's squats,pull ups whatever it is,thats so much weight u cant focus on forum u just gotta do the movement.I have done high reps(8-10) and low reps,i respond better to low reps(4-6)..i got stretch marks all over form this lower rep training,i have grown alot and i am alot stronger,u train with low reps for strength your muscle have no choice but to grow from tearing.
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imo, this is the num 1 way to get injured. if you cant use good form, its too heavy for you. kids bouncing the bar off there chest, swinging the d-bells working there back more than there bi's on curls, its ridiculous, thats why I come back to my home town after two years and those guys look exactly the same. jmo
 
wcjcMr.O said:
imo, this is the num 1 way to get injured. if you cant use good form, its too heavy for you. kids bouncing the bar off there chest, swinging the d-bells working there back more than there bi's on curls, its ridiculous, thats why I come back to my home town after two years and those guys look exactly the same. jmo
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Agreed. Saying that form is overrated is ignorant. Doing any excercise with better form, especially if youre training for strength is going to get you better stability and allow for more weight.

Strength isn't strength if you aren't using form. And I'll tell you one thing, when I'm in the weightroom and I see a dude benching 450 with a 5 inch bounce off his chest, and I see a dude benching 450 nice and clean, I'm not fucking with the second dude.

If you want to live by the "more weight = more strength" motto then sure, forget your form (and hurt yourself). But as far as real strength goes, pay attention to how you do your excercises.

As a disclaimer, this is just a response to this post, bloke's doing fuckin awesome :jenscat
 
its not ignorant,i dont bounch the bar,i dout that thatbloke does,,but i dont think u can bench 400lbs with great fourm,,look at all the pros none of them have fourm

but strenght inside the gym just that..someone can be strong as fuck in the gym but weak as hell outside the gym,on the football field or etc,dif type of strenght you said " I'm not fucking with the second dude." that doesnt mean he is a beast at fighting or anything just means he can lift 450
 
thelocal said:
its not ignorant,i dont bounch the bar,i dout that thatbloke does,,but i dont think u can bench 400lbs with great fourm,,look at all the pros none of them have fourm

but strenght inside the gym just that..someone can be strong as fuck in the gym but weak as hell outside the gym,on the football field or etc,dif type of strenght you said " I'm not fucking with the second dude." that doesnt mean he is a beast at fighting or anything just means he can lift 450
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are you saying its not possible to bench 400 with perfect form. i strongly disagree dude. 400 is pretty damn heavy, but nothin too crazy. but i think the heavier you go, the MORE important form is. you try benching 400 with sloppy form and I almost guarentee you will get injured. that is so much pressure on your joints and shoulders, you have to make sure everything is tight and push in the correct path for the press or its just asking for injury. go watch some powerlifting press videos, those guys press alot more than 400lbs and there form is PERFECT. it has to be to reduce injury, not to mention the lift might not even count.

work the muscle not the weight, i like this motto

btw, I mean no disrespect by this post, i just have a much diff opinion obviously.

keep killin it bloke
 
when lifting near-maximal weight, form will tend to break down... though i would still consider myself to be more of a technical lifter, perfect form is not always practical... having a strong core does become key in keeping yourself safer in these situations... and knowing how to bail on a heavy squat is important as well... all these thing lead to improved real-applicable strength...
of course you need to stay tight and keep your focus... but lifting these near-maximal weights trains more than just your muscles, it develops your central nervous system as well... somthing that light(er) weights just dont accomplish very well, thus allowing one to lift heavier and heavier, and as a result, creating greater micro-tears in the muscle...
last time... the human back is made for dynamic pulling. period. other bodyparts may respond better to different types of training, and individuals will still vary in what works for them... but evolutionary-wise, the back is made to pick up heavy shit... not lots of light(er) stuff over and over...
we can argue this over and over, but i still say the pics tell the truth, and the best looking backs on this board have been made picking up heavy shit...
 
thelocal said:
its not ignorant,i dont bounch the bar,i dout that thatbloke does,,but i dont think u can bench 400lbs with great fourm,,look at all the pros none of them have fourm

but strenght inside the gym just that..someone can be strong as fuck in the gym but weak as hell outside the gym,on the football field or etc,dif type of strenght you said " I'm not fucking with the second dude." that doesnt mean he is a beast at fighting or anything just means he can lift 450
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Thats what I'm saying....

Weightroom strength with shitty form is just that.....its weightroom strength.

Weightroom strength with good form, strong control says something about your true strength.

You're right, maybe the fact that the guy who benches 405 with good form doesnt directly translate to him being a great fighter (although, being a fighter, I would argue that coordination and stability are two of the key elements of fighting, and good form is a good indicator of both of these), but he is the stronger of the two individuals. Thats what I was getting at.

Being able to do 405 with good form or with poor form = the same in the weightroom. But outside of the weightroom, the guy with the good form is all around stronger than the other guy.
 
thelocal said:
its not ignorant,i dont bounch the bar,i dout that thatbloke does,,but i dont think u can bench 400lbs with great fourm,,look at all the pros none of them have fourm

but strenght inside the gym just that..someone can be strong as fuck in the gym but weak as hell outside the gym,on the football field or etc,dif type of strenght you said " I'm not fucking with the second dude." that doesnt mean he is a beast at fighting or anything just means he can lift 450
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Thats what I'm saying....

Weightroom strength with shitty form is just that.....its weightroom strength.

Weightroom strength with good form, strong control says something about your true strength.

You're right, maybe the fact that the guy who benches 405 with good form doesnt directly translate to him being a great fighter (although, being a fighter, I would argue that coordination and stability are two of the key elements of fighting, and good form is a good indicator of both of these), but he is the stronger of the two individuals. Thats what I was getting at.

Being able to do 405 with good form or with poor form = the same in the weightroom. But outside of the weightroom, the guy with the good form is all around stronger than the other guy.

So if youre in the weightroom to show everyone how big your dick is, form doesnt matter. If youre in there to build some muscle and increase your strength it does.

That's all I'm gonna say! Sorry to hijack your log bloke!

BTW looking awesome on the deads bro. Thats fucking sick weight.
 
wcjcMr.O said:
imo, this is the num 1 way to get injured. if you cant use good form, its too heavy for you. kids bouncing the bar off there chest, swinging the d-bells working there back more than there bi's on curls, its ridiculous, thats why I come back to my home town after two years and those guys look exactly the same. jmo
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Bingo! You may get stronger but it's not worth the wear and tear on your tendons and joints from all that bad forum using heavy weights. Years from now you will regret it. Also with good form where you are actually using all of the intended muscle leads to proper development of that muscle therefore you will look better which is the goal correct? To each his own but I'm more focused on an aesthetic body instead of just pure bulk with no definition or muscle seperation. I think I'm just venting because it see peole in the gym all the time that are doing exercises that aren't working the muscle and will lead to injury. ThatBloke is a beast but he complains about nagging injuires alot too you see. Not worth it
 
thatbloke said:
to be exact

i have knee damage (wen i was younger i was a famous half squater LOL) not anymore thanks to google:)

i have tendonitis in my left elbow from hammer extenions (strict form)

and occasionaly i get a sore left/right wrist from dumbell curling anything more then 60 pounds with strict form (so strict form actually injured me here aswell) i get no pain wen i loosen it up

that and skullcrushers with anything mor then 150pounds it hurts my wrist (again stirct form), so now i do JM presses and wrists are good as gold

so in all fairness, ive actually suffered more injuries becoz of strict form training and training light

things like back, which ive never trained with strict form, ive had the best results and NEVER an injury

soooooo this whole strict form thing? might work for you, but for me its done nothing but injure me

however only thing ill agree is bench press, ALWAYS had to be strict with that, although ive never been able to figure a way out how to cheat a bench press:confused: dont understand how u guys talk about bouncing the bar off the chest, wen the bar touches my chest i press straight up coz im scared itll crush me hahaha
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When I said that I wasnt talking about you dude. I havent even seen you bench and i KNOW your not bouncin the bar. you got past that 400 mark, and ya your right, if you try bouncin 400 for some extra leverage, you might get crushed or crack a rib or something for sure. but I DO see it pretty regulary and im sure you have too. its usually little guys that obviously havent been workin out too long, since they obviously dont know what they hell there doing. You CAN use "Bad" form and get a few extra cheat reps on stuff like bi's and do it safely, or in your case, prevent injury as i do some stuff like that for my shoulder work too to prevent injury. The main thing i think is getting a contraction in the target muscle. And most the time when I see people cheating or using poor form, its INEXPERIANCED kids who are just going through the motions and obviously not getting a contraction where they need to be.

just wanted to let you know that my remark wasnt directed toward you dude.

but once again, everybody and every BODY is different. you gotta find what works for you. And those heavy weights and low reps are OBVIOUSLY workin for you man, so keep it up. your a beast
 
thatbloke said:
to be exact

i have knee damage (wen i was younger i was a famous half squater LOL) not anymore thanks to google:)

i have tendonitis in my left elbow from hammer extenions (strict form)

and occasionaly i get a sore left/right wrist from dumbell curling anything more then 60 pounds with strict form (so strict form actually injured me here aswell) i get no pain wen i loosen it up

that and skullcrushers with anything mor then 150pounds it hurts my wrist (again stirct form), so now i do JM presses and wrists are good as gold

so in all fairness, ive actually suffered more injuries becoz of strict form training and training light

things like back, which ive never trained with strict form, ive had the best results and NEVER an injury

soooooo this whole strict form thing? might work for you, but for me its done nothing but injure me

however only thing ill agree is bench press, ALWAYS had to be strict with that, although ive never been able to figure a way out how to cheat a bench press:confused: dont understand how u guys talk about bouncing the bar off the chest, wen the bar touches my chest i press straight up coz im scared itll crush me hahaha
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I'm sorry but that makes absolutely no sense. You're saying the only injuries you have are from the times you have used strict form and using ligher weights meaning higher reps?? That just sounds ridiculous. 99% of the time people get injured from going too heavy which leads to bad form using momentum which then leads to much of the stress going to the joints and tendons instead if the actual stress being on the muscle. I'm not trying to argue man I'm just saying that cannot be true.

Lets say 2 natural althletea begin weight training. One using strict form and most lifts are in the 8-12 rep range and the other lifter uses momentum and sloppy form while going heavy in the 2-5 rep range. I would bet any amount of money the althlete with the ''loose'' form gets injured much more often while not gaining nearly enough muscle mass as the other. That is why strong men and power lifters are big with much more fat than a bodybuilder who is more about form and working individual muscles instead of just ''moving'' weight.
 
always love seeing your logs man. 240 at your bf is my goal. i got all the way up to 264 and am cutting now natty and im already like 230 and just have visible abs in the morning. wanna get a little leaner and then hit my next cycle and continue to cut. still afraid of tren though. was thinking maybe test and eq with eca or something.
 
twenty47 said:
always love seeing your logs man. 240 at your bf is my goal. i got all the way up to 264 and am cutting now natty and im already like 230 and just have visible abs in the morning. wanna get a little leaner and then hit my next cycle and continue to cut. still afraid of tren though. was thinking maybe test and eq with eca or something.
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You're 230 lbs in your picture? Really?
 
twenty47 said:
no that was my last day of my cycle i did. around 260
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I think he was implying you looked lighter than 230 mang.

We dont really have anything to reference your size with in the pic so its hard not to kind of perceive it smaller than it really is.
 
im 6 foot.

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i guess pics dont do it justice but pumped i had over 18.5 inch arms.

carry most of my weight down low though. got to 29's on the quads.
 
liffalot said:
When I'm bulking, I never want to cut haha.

Love the way I feel when I'm bulking, love the way I look when I'm cutting....

Such a dilemma!
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haha same. only thing that is keeping me going is flexing when i wake up every morning and looking leaner each day. felt so good to be big. but i was at a club the other weekend and some girl lifted up my shirt and liked my stomach so that was cool. even though im not all that lean. but my mid section is really hard from lifting heavy.

thatbloke i wish we were roomates or something lol. need your gorilla ass to show a few things.
 
twenty47 said:
haha same. only thing that is keeping me going is flexing when i wake up every morning and looking leaner each day. felt so good to be big. but i was at a club the other weekend and some girl lifted up my shirt and liked my stomach so that was cool. even though im not all that lean. but my mid section is really hard from lifting heavy.

thatbloke i wish we were roomates or something lol. need your gorilla ass to show a few things.
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Thats an awesome feeling.

And I hadnt ever thought of bloke as a gorilla, but thats a pretty good analogy lol.
 
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