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My experiences with Dermacrine, a new anabolic OTC supp

needtogetas said:
yes but its is only detectable for a short time...I will get pp in here to tell us how long exactly



also derma is perfectly legal,
it dos not cause hare lose rather it stops hair lose do to the pregnenolone that is in it.

Thanks for the response. I am still curious about strength gains but the rest of the questions are not important since I won't be able to use it.
 
claire said:
Sorry if some of my questions are stupid. I have never heard of dermacrine.

Is this a legal supplement? You mentioned you had the best workout. By best, do you mean you were stronger, more endurance, felt better? I am just wondering if you noticed strength gains.

Is there a problem using dermacrine if you are lifting in a drug tested federation?

You mentioned acne, sex drive and aggression are there any other known side effects. Hair loss, voice changes, etc.

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

Claire

Yes it's legal Claire. It's sold by one of this board's sponsors. You should be a banner for it at the top of this page.

In today's workout I was both stonger and had more stamina than I've ever had in the four years I've been lifting. Plus psychologically I just felt very motivated and driven to lift hard and heavy. There was no need to all to try to psych myself to lift. I just slammed into it and rocked it hard. I wouldnt say I'm feeling aggressive, just more irritable than I usually am if I'm not on my period. I cant say what other sides might occur since I think I'm the first woman to use this product...certainly the first to post about it anyway.

I wouldnt think you'd fail a drug test, but who knows. I expect your T levels would show up as being high for a woman though.
 
claire said:
Thanks for the response. I am still curious about strength gains but the rest of the questions are not important since I won't be able to use it.
why cant you use it.btw we are coming out with a tester friendly version as well
that will have no effect on testing. :)
 
needtogetas said:
yes but its is only detectable for a short time...I will get pp in here to tell us how long exactly



also derma is perfectly legal,
it dos not cause hare lose rather it stops hair lose do to the pregnenolone that is in it.

I missed the quote that it is only detectable for a short time. Would it still be considered as using steriods? I am currently competing APF which does not drug test but plan on changing to USAPL.
 
needtogetas said:
why cant you use it.btw we are coming out with a tester friendly version as well
that will have no effect on testing. :)

I only notice your answer in the middle of my question so I tought I would not be able to use it while participating in a drug test federation.
 
RottenWillow said:
Yes it's legal Claire. It's sold by one of this board's sponsors. You should be a banner for it at the top of this page.

In today's workout I was both stonger and had more stamina than I've ever had in the four years I've been lifting. Plus psychologically I just felt very motivated and driven to lift hard and heavy. There was no need to all to try to psych myself to lift. I just slammed into it and rocked it hard. I wouldnt say I'm feeling aggressive, just more irritable than I usually am if I'm not on my period. I cant say what other sides might occur since I think I'm the first woman to use this product...certainly the first to post about it anyway.

I wouldnt think you'd fail a drug test, but who knows. I expect your T levels would show up as being high for a woman though.

Sounds great. I am currently get harrassed in my gym maybe it will give me the edge to finally stick up for myself not mention help my squat.
 
Yes, the DHEA/preg is banned by certain organizations. I would inquire specifically if you plan on using the product.

We will soon be releasing a new version or Dermacrine that will not contain the DHEA/preg, and therefore will to totally legal for all testing organizations… however I am not sure of the androgenic effects it will have in women since it wont be supplying an exogenous source of hormones. It will simply be an AI complex.

Any of you women have any “enhancement” from just using AI’s?

-Pp
 
S is on the sauce! j/k I'm glad to see it's working for you. More and more advanced legal muscle building aids are coming out. It's nice to see real ones do exist.
 
Primordial Performance said:
Yes, the DHEA/preg is banned by certain organizations. I would inquire specifically if you plan on using the product.

We will soon be releasing a new version or Dermacrine that will not contain the DHEA/preg, and therefore will to totally legal for all testing organizations… however I am not sure of the androgenic effects it will have in women since it wont be supplying an exogenous source of hormones. It will simply be an AI complex.

Any of you women have any “enhancement” from just using AI’s?

-Pp
Thanks for your response. I will look into it. Maybe, wait for the new version. I am still making gains in the gym so no rush

What is AI? Sorry fairly new to the board and no experience except for basic supplements like creatine, beta-7, red blast ...

Thanks,
Claire
 
AI = anti - estrogen. Some versions of that block the conversion of testosterone to estrogen (aromatization) and others like Nolvadex (tamoxafin) sort of fakes out the receptors and blocks the estrogen process from completing.


Im' curious tho - what sort of "enhancements" would you expect from a female on an AI only? I mean, sure it will help reduce estrogen pattern fat depositing but by itself it isn't enhancing test levels. The reduction of fat where it tends to deposit would make a change in leanness more apparent but woudlnt' necessarily "enhance" you in any way. And then since I woudln't suggest anyone try to stay on AIs for an extended period of time (because the extreme state of no estrogen is menopause), you can expect to gain some of it back anyway.
 
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