My DHEA-S results on Dermacrine

[SuperOne]

Okay so my before and after DHEA-S results on Dermacine.


Before:

DHEA-S - 3.6 LOW Range 7.6-17.4


3 days after i finshed Dermacrine:

DHEA-S - 3.3 LOW Range 7.6-17.4
Estradiol - 224 HI Range Up To 206


Why the hell is my DHEA-S lower after i used Dermacrine? It lasted me 3 weeks.



My Estradiol is also sky high, which to be fair i suspect was still high since MAY when i quit Avodart ( for hair loss ), as my face is still puffy and bloated, and i dont think my DHT returned to normal yet. I got my DHT tested but the results arent back yet.

My bet is they are still abolished 5 months after quitting Avodart, otherwise my Estradiol wouldnt be so sky high for a lean 23 year old, and my face would be dry and chisled like it has always been my whole life.



I have an appointment to see an Endo in late November, but i was expecting Dermacrine to raise my DHEA-S levels and lower estrogen.

 

[buftup]

Damn, that's no good.

 

[SuperOne]

Yeah i know, i was hoping it would raise my DHEA-S levels to sky high.


Im seriously considering going on Letrozole, Proviron, and mabye even Winstrol - stanozolol to get my hormones the way they use to be before i started Avodart and get my dihydrotestosterone back up. I was always lean and ripped my whole life no matter what i did, and my face was always chisled and dry. Im still ripped and vascular but my facial bloat wont go away no matter what i do, what i try, what i eat,ect. I also feel a bit softer overall.


Hell last Novermber i quit Avodart and i totally returned to normal in 3-4 weeks. So why i havent returned to normal yet in over 5 months is boggling my mind and im getting REALLY fed up and pissed off already.

 

[gslben]

Oh nooooo you can't say that on this board...

 

[SuperOne]

What you mean?


What i cant be honest and post the truth of my results?


I posted my results because i NEED SOME HELP. I need to get back to normal.


My Doctor told me not to take anything untill i see the Endo on Nov 30th, but thats over 1 month away and i cant stand to look in the mirror anymore, and dont want to have the estrogen levels of a woman floating around in me for any longer. But self medicating fucked me up in the first place, though Avodart was supposed to be FDA approved as safe.

To be honest i tried AIMF and Arimidex - anastrozole - and they didnt help either with my facial bloat either, so im guessnig my Estrogen still remained high.


I'll bet any money my dihydrotestosterone tests come back low.


Be VERY cautious with Avodart, its a stupidly powerfull drug.



I never had a single problem EVER in my 23 years before i touched Avodart. It MUST be the root of the problem.

 

[gslben]

I'm kiddin dude

 

[SuperOne]

OKay cool sorry, i just need some help or something.

 

[st8grad]

I don't think that certain varieties of Arimidex are all that potent. I've never used AG-Guys, but I have a different brand that seems to be pretty weak. That could be your problem. However, AG-Guys Letrozole was powerful and definitely the shit.

 

[artificialaspirations]

If avodart is a hairloss drug it will probably have the same sides as propecia and minoxidil, etc. I took em for a couple months to keep the hair I have and it made me feel like a bitch. Fucked up depressing thoughts and softer overall appearence especially erections. I quit that shit as soon as the sides manifested and am happier ever since. My sex drive came back and I feel aggressive and strong again.

FOr me it is more important to feel like a man than a zombie w/ hair. I think I'll look pretty tough w/ a shaved head in 20 yrs.

 

[SuperOne]

artificialaspirations you hit the nail on the head with "zombie", i totally agree.


Lucky you bounced back, late last year i bounced back after i quit, but wanted to give it one last shot to see if i could beat the sides. Though for some reason this time i havent returned to normal yet.


Dutasteride takes some time to build up in your system, but i heard once it does it can take a LONG time to get out. But its been over 5 friggin months! I go on damn proviron and Winstrol - stanozolol if i have to.


Mabye the Dermacrine further lowered my dihydrotestosterone aswell, further hurting MY situation, in my case.


Topical anti-androgens are our best shot, if they dont get systematically absorbed.