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My Deadlift Bar Path...

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My lower spine has been very stiff lately so my form has continued to be off a bit. I took these the other day and thought that I'd post them here.

Notice how the bar starts away from my shins and basically goes in a straight line or slightly back. Had it started against my shins...it would have had to come fwd a good bit before going over my knees. This way...I can pull with speed through the entire movement.

Of course...my form always needs work...as always.

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Very cool Clint, it's about time we had some more useful stuff posted here

I notice how your the shoulders are behind the bar, I taped myself doing conventional style the other day and my torso was tilted too far forwards & my shoulders were over the bar.. as a result I damn near stifflegged it

any more pics or vids would be much appreciated
 
with a taller person you should never start the movement with the bar touching your shins. it just causes the bar to move forward and excess strain.
 
How should a taller person preform the movement, then?

And I always thought shoulders over the bar was proper form. That's what I do, anyways.
 
Great post!! Good to get some insight on deadlift form! Im guessing my shoulders are usually over the bar as tweakle mentioned. I havent gotten video up yet, so I cant be certain. I basically black out during the lift, Im not thinking about anything else. ThanX again!
 
Tom Treutlein said:
How should a taller person preform the movement, then?

And I always thought shoulders over the bar was proper form. That's what I do, anyways.
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away from the shins. below your knees when bending down.
 
b fold the truth said:
MANY, including myself, believe that the bar should NOT be touching the shins on the lift.

IF the bar begins against the shins...it will have to go AWAY from the body as it rises to go over the knees. LOTS of lifters will get stuck AT the knees because the bar had to go forward which threw off their form a lot.

Begin with the bar out a few inches and pull back. It will be one motion...straight around the knees. Straight line...not a curve.

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle...7D5D0A5C62D765DF64F7C6E7.ba08?article=194dead

"Mistake #6: Keeping the shins too close to the bar

I'm not too sure where this started but I have a pretty good idea. Many times the taller, thinner lifters are the best pullers and they do start with the bar very close to their shins. But if you look at them from the sides they still have their shoulders behind the bar when they pull. This is just not possible to achieve with a thicker lifter.

If a thicker lifter with a large amount of body mass — be it muscle or fat — were to line the bar up with his shins, you'd see he would have an impossible time getting the shoulders behind the bar. Remember you need to pull the bar back toward you, not out and away from you. So what I believe happens is many lifters look to those who have great deadlifts to see how they pull, then try to do the same themselves. What they need to do is look to those who are built the same way they are and have great deadlifts and follow their lead."

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I do have a little more arch in my back when I pull heavier. Those reps were done VERY fast. The heavier weights pull my arms down a bit which helps to keep that arch a little more.

I'm fairly tall at 6'2"...

I'll try to get some vids when I can. I may pull tomorrow (Sunday) but not sure just yet. I'm moving next Sunday so maybe no vids or pics for a while. I do keep a journal over at www.IronTrybe.com though that might be helpful.

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I have always done them against my shins from the very start. I am only 5'8''. Not sure if that makes a diff. I also know the bar never moves away from my legs through the movement, because I have bloody shins after doing them lol. Once you tear them raw, the scabs never heal until you take a cople weeks off lol.
 
I try to keep a straight or slightly arched back

Isn't it wiser to prevent lower back injury ?

Anyway, thx, a couple of pics are more useful than a long text :)
 
Anthrax said:
I try to keep a straight or slightly arched back

Isn't it wiser to prevent lower back injury ?
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You know man...I'm not really sure. I do know that there is always a BEST way and then there is a way that you do it BEST. That is how I do it best. I do not feel comfortable with a tightly arched back.

I pulled a raw and easy 691 today that I have on video and I'll upload it as soon as I can.

My back feels best when it is completely flat, which also makes the arms longer and the bar doesn't DRAG on the body.

Not the best way for everyone...but the best way that I've found so far for me.

Remember that...it is NEVER the best way for EVERYONE. Always try to learn something from everything because it might come in handy someday.

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Awesome idea for a thread. I've always had trouble scraping my shins on deads...when I did, it felt as if I was struggling harder to get the weight up than ever before.

And 691!!!! You looked as if you had even more in the tank! Impressive...

Oh, and at first, I thought the little girl on the steps was a doll. I was thinking...who set up the doll to watch you deadlift? LOL. But then she moved ;) (Cute little girl.)
 
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guldukat said:
Awesome idea for a thread. I've always had trouble scraping my shins on deads...when I did, it felt as if I was struggling harder to get the weight up than ever before.

And 691!!!! You looked as if you had even more in the tank! Impressive...

Oh, and at first, I thought the little girl on the steps was a doll. I was thinking...who set up the doll to watch you deadlift? LOL. But then she moved ;) (Cute little girl.)
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Just try something different on your deadlifts and see if you can make it work for you. When I tore my left hamstring in December and February I wanted to pull BADLY but couldn't pull heavy. I would try to change my form to keep the bar closer to me and it felt ok with lighter weights but NOT when I got over 400. It seemed like the bar was carrying me instead of the other way around. I was all over the place and it wasn't in one motion.

Try to make little changes and see if you can make it work. To make changes work, though, takes lots of time.

That was Mattie, the daughter of one of the girls who has been training here on Sundays.

I really think that I'll get 700 x 2 this Fall and 730 x 1 as well.

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you sure those are styrofoam plates? maybe gravity is different in kentucky. :P

hehehe. nice job clint! very nice job!
 
BRUTAL.....dude, I loved watching that. Loved the psych routine also...

RAW....no straps...

BELT?

Garage lift also...way to go.

Thanks for the vid. I'm saving it.
 
callthedoctor said:
BRUTAL.....dude, I loved watching that. Loved the psych routine also...

RAW....no straps...

BELT?

Garage lift also...way to go.

Thanks for the vid. I'm saving it.
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NO belt, I do all my gym lifts raw to help with the Strongman Events more. On contest day or while during events, I wear everything that I have both to help my numbers, and the wear and tear on my body.

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Robert Jan said:
you can never truely mimic your form with an empty barb
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I agree...

I've been telling everyone who trains with me here that they need to take more heavy weights 90%+ more often on deads because the form changes so much as you get heavier. I do not feel that one can practice perfect 1RM form while doing VERY light weights.

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Forge said:
Freakin awesome Clint. I struggle more with 315 than you do with 691!
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It just takes time my friend.

Remember that only a couple months ago...315 wasn't even an option for me with my torn hamstring.

Look at the tough road ahead as a challenge...not an obstacle.

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Look at the tough road ahead as a challenge...not an obstacle.
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Very well put, all it takes is time and tenacity and you can do almost anything.

That was an awesome vid Clint, the pull looked a lot tighter than the last one and made the lift look easy! :)
 
SublimeZM said:
haha that was awsome...i love how psyched up you made yourself. whoevers daughter that was was probably sitting there in horror haha
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Thanks...I was actually a little scared to be honest. I tore my hamstring pulling 640 so anything at or above that...really gets in my head. Just an injury that sticks in my brain and I fear that I have to fix. I am yet to pull and not think about it at some point.

I do get a little crazy when I lift and especially when I do events. I like to growl, bark, yell, spit...whatever gets me feeling midevil. I have always believed that if you want to be a good deadlifter that you also have to be a little crazy as well.

I was really suprised that Mattie sat there so quietly. Being afraid that I was going to scare her, I made sure to go over and sit next to her when I was done and explain why I put chalk on my hands. She was holding my chalk bucket for me in between sets:)

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