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More Growth Than You'd Get On Steroids

Nelson Montana

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This is a reminder of sorts. I see a lot of posts about gaining weight and getting bigger and I'd say 9 times out 10 the person asking can gain more naturally than with drugs. Most people do not know how to grow. This is why the dosages have gotten higher and the physiques have gotten shittier. It's no secret -- training and diet do the trick -- but only if you train like an animal and eat like one too.

There is FAR too much concern with overtraining. It's actually almost impossible to overtrain unless you're ill, are sleep deprived, do too much cardio or are injured. Nuff said.

On to eating.

Naturally, protein is the key, but even 200 grams of protein is tough to get. And that's only 800 total calories. You need much more than that to grow.

Some people claim that overeating will only make you fat. Yeah, if you're already 5'9" and weigh 200 pounds and train like a pussy. But so many guys are simply too small and need calories. And that means FAT. Fat is anabolic. You will not get fat if you still have to fill out your frame and you work hard enough.

Back in the 60's when Rheo Blair had everyone using his protein and mixing it with cream, those guys were growing like weeds. Sure, the protein was better than the crap available at that time, but it was no better than what you can get now. The secret was the cream. Fat makes you grow.

Some people have a hard time with fat. Rack of lamb and butter and cream get a little gross after a while.

Try this.

Snack on "fat" foods. That means in-between meals you can eat nuts, or olives. They won't fill you up and they add a lot of calories. Hummus and chips is great too. LOADED with calories. And Greek yogurt is made from cream. Try it with honey and walnuts. A whopping 400 calories and you'll be hungry 1/2 hour later.

As for supps, all I'd recommend is Tropical Orange BIG BLAST with Sunny Delite. Alright, now we're adding a bunch of carbs as well as fat but it's so easy to get down, adds super plama protein, creatine and tastes fucking awesome. And it won't bloat you like most protein drinks so you have room for solid food. That's the thing -- weight gainers that are filling defeat the purpose because they just replace other calories you'd eat. You need something that you can have in ADDITION to your meals and snacks.

Getting big is a commitment. ANYBODY can get bigger. I've put clients on this method and they say they feel like they're juicing because they're busting out of their shirst after a couple of weeks.

Unfortunately, you can;t maintain this forever. They'll come a time when the metabolism will slow and you will start adding fat. But in order to get bigger the body must adapt to BEING bigger. This makes this plan a perfect "pre-cycle" tactic.

And one last reminder. Lift and lift some more! Give your body a reason to get bigger. Feed your muscles!!! Do this and you will experience even GREATER gains when you cycle.

Getting bigger is the key. That's why they call it bodyBUILDING. And you can't do that, even with steroids, without sufficient calories. And a lot of weight lifting.
 
I like nuts..I snack on nuts throughout the day for this purpose. Dry roasted unsalted peanuts contain 170 calories (130 calories from fats) in just an ounce with 14 grams of total fats. Mostly good polyunsaturated and monounsaturated fats. Plus 8 grams of protein.
 
This is a reminder of sorts. I see a lot of posts about gaining weight and getting bigger and I'd say 9 times out 10 the person asking can gain more naturally than with drugs. Most people do not know how to grow. This is why the dosages have gotten higher and the physiques have gotten shittier. It's no secret -- training and diet do the trick -- but only if you train like an animal and eat like one too.



Never a truer word spoken.
 
This is a reminder of sorts. I see a lot of posts about gaining weight and getting bigger and I'd say 9 times out 10 the person asking can gain more naturally than with drugs. Most people do not know how to grow. This is why the dosages have gotten higher and the physiques have gotten shittier. It's no secret -- training and diet do the trick -- but only if you train like an animal and eat like one too.


Never a truer word spoken.



Although I would never advocate irresponsible use of steroids, steroid use in people who can still gain naturally is common in about 99.999% of people who start using steroids. So let's not be so quick to just tell people off for wanting to use them either.

I have seen members on here at 5'10" and a semi-lean 180 lbs or so who have had the idea they have reached a genetic max. This is obviously a wrong assumption and as members we need to help these members like this understand how far a proper diet can really take them.

Let me just say, for most people reaching a genetic potential naturally will take ATLEAST 5-7 YEARS of advanced training and diet to reach genetic max. You can get HUGE without steroids if you are doing it right.

Steroids just get you there faster.

A combination of mediocre(somewhat decent) diet and training with steroids can give semi-decent results no doubt. Lets not lie to ourselves. You can get fairly far doing this.

However, an amazing plan of diet and excercise followed through with dedication can bring amazing results without steroids. Add steroids to the combination, and you have the 20"+ arm beasts.
 
I agree with you 100% Nelson, great post. I think most people want to use steroids for the easy way out. I honestly believe it should only be used by serious athletic people. If you just want to use it to look good for the summer you shouldn't even bother, diet and train thats all you need. Now if you are making this a way of life then you should take it. You have to change your lifestyle to get the full benefits of steroids, you shouldn't use them for the quick fix, as fast as you gain from using, you will lose it. Which is just a waste of time and money.
 
Impossible to overtrain IF only doing that body part ONCE a WEEK. Train chest 3 times a week and you will be over trained. Just to clarify. But I get your point. Good post.
 
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