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Turns out my apricot seed biz turned out to be a good idea!

Theres this computer/electronic repair shop that I called about. Saw the ad on CL, they need a person to post listings on their ebay account. They are HUGE company that has thousands of listings, they said the job would be permanent. The thing I like is that it is M-F 8-5.

They pay per post you list - but after 2 weeks probation period they pay 2.25/post. So even if I only do 5 posts per hour, I will make 11.25/hr. They also said they would pay cash or check. The only downfall is that it is in Sac, which is an hr away from me. But I am 100% sure I can post more than 5 items in an hr, I can probably do more like 8.

And if I keep my other job on the weekend, I will be rolling in the cash my nuggas.

Anyway Im not gonna get too excited just yet. It sucks because it is 100% commission, so theres no guarantee. But at the same time I can almost guarantee 5 listings.hr on average. Ive been posting on ebay for 6 years and am really familiar with the site. I go in on Monday, I just hope its a permanent job, and that I know I will always make at least X amount of money. They lady said there were thousands of posts and that I would never run out of things to post.

Have any of you ever had commission jobs?
 
Why do you have to commute to Sac if youre posting on ebay? Or is that just for the interview and stuff

Have you researched the company?
What do they sell
How long in business
Annual revenue
BBB rating, chamber of commerce affiliation if any

This sort of low commission only, no benefits type job should be temporary rob
 
Why do you have to commute to Sac if youre posting on ebay? Or is that just for the interview and stuff

Have you researched the company?
What do they sell
How long in business
Annual revenue
BBB rating, chamber of commerce affiliation if any

This sort of low commission only, no benefits type job should be temporary rob

Its for the interview. But they take all the pics and have the item descriptions in their office, so it would be a lot of time for them to send the pics and description of all the items to me. Just easier to do it in their office

The company is legit, here is their website.

919 Nerd
919 Nerd Electronics Carmichael, CA, 95608 - YP.com

They sell computer parts but they are a repair company too. Been in Biz since 03.

All of my work is temporary until I get my PTA cert.
 
Its for the interview. But they take all the pics and have the item descriptions in their office, so it would be a lot of time for them to send the pics and description of all the items to me. Just easier to do it in their office

The company is legit, here is their website.

919 Nerd
919 Nerd Electronics Carmichael, CA, 95608 - YP.com

They sell computer parts but they are a repair company too. Been in Biz since 03.

All of my work is temporary until I get my PTA cert.

I can take photos and instantly email them with description to my admin bor. If it were me i wouldnt drive an hour just for that job. Whats gas cost for you? Whats your mpg in your car? Run the numbers rob
 
I can take photos and instantly email them with description to my admin bor. If it were me i wouldnt drive an hour just for that job. Whats gas cost for you? Whats your mpg in your car? Run the numbers rob

what do u mean bro, email them description to your admin?

Gas would be about 10 dollars their and back, so 50/week. So it would be around the same that I pay right now.

Basically this one 1 job will pay more than my 2 jobs combined. And I could even keep one or both of my part time jobs on the weekend. The hotel and chili's
 
If you're going to work for commission you have to get from behind a keyboard and conduct bizness "face to face".

Cash in on your vivacious personality, bro.
 
Its for the interview. But they take all the pics and have the item descriptions in their office, so it would be a lot of time for them to send the pics and description of all the items to me. Just easier to do it in their office

The company is legit, here is their website.

919 Nerd
919 Nerd Electronics Carmichael, CA, 95608 - YP.com

They sell computer parts but they are a repair company too. Been in Biz since 03.

All of my work is temporary until I get my PTA cert.

The BBB says they've been in business since 05/06 and have been BBB accredited since 1/20/11. On the up side, they have 1 complaint against them that was responded to and closed and have an A rating so far.
 
what do u mean bro, email them description to your admin?

Gas would be about 10 dollars their and back, so 50/week. So it would be around the same that I pay right now.

Basically this one 1 job will pay more than my 2 jobs combined. And I could even keep one or both of my part time jobs on the weekend. The hotel and chili's

Meaning for my business I take photos with descriptions and can email them instantly to someone else who does whatever with them. So theres no reason for me to go drive anywhere to deliver any pics or descriptions but thats just my business. I guess what they are doing at your place is different somehow but try to ask them if they can simply email you the digital photos with descriptions because if the only reason you are driving an hour is to get the photos thats a bigass waste because the whole job is internet based.

Although yes consolidating jobs is always a good thing so you arent having to switch gears all the time for different jobs.
 
The BBB says they've been in business since 05/06 and have been BBB accredited since 1/20/11. On the up side, they have 1 complaint against them that was responded to and closed and have an A rating so far.


nice!

funny thing is I just noticed on my computer at work, they have the icon for the place Im talking about lol
 
ahh i see. I will talk to them about it.

I hate working at chilis bro. Its fast paced, high strung, and people that work there freak out over fuckin food and drinks. Its jus not for me. I guess im better at work that only involves me. I do admit that I tend to not work as hard with other people, but when im by myself theres no one else to blame so I always give it my all. So with the internet potings on ebay, its all up to me to do good or not. Thats why i really want to try this job out. And I have experience with ebay, plus its better pay than both my other jobs, PLUS its a typical M-F 8-5 setting. This would be way better for my family

When I go in on Monday Im gonna ask them:

A) How permanent this job is
B) Is there a minimum/maximum amount I can make per week
C) Do they tax me if they pay me cash?
D) Can they send me the photos/description and I can work from home

Anything else I should bring up?

Meaning for my business I take photos with descriptions and can email them instantly to someone else who does whatever with them. So theres no reason for me to go drive anywhere to deliver any pics or descriptions but thats just my business. I guess what they are doing at your place is different somehow but try to ask them if they can simply email you the digital photos with descriptions because if the only reason you are driving an hour is to get the photos thats a bigass waste because the whole job is internet based.

Although yes consolidating jobs is always a good thing so you arent having to switch gears all the time for different jobs.
 
ahh i see. I will talk to them about it.

I hate working at chilis bro. Its fast paced, high strung, and people that work there freak out over fuckin food and drinks. Its jus not for me. I guess im better at work that only involves me. I do admit that I tend to not work as hard with other people, but when im by myself theres no one else to blame so I always give it my all. So with the internet potings on ebay, its all up to me to do good or not. Thats why i really want to try this job out. And I have experience with ebay, plus its better pay than both my other jobs, PLUS its a typical M-F 8-5 setting. This would be way better for my family

When I go in on Monday Im gonna ask them:

A) How permanent this job is
B) Is there a minimum/maximum amount I can make per week
C) Do they tax me if they pay me cash?
D) Can they send me the photos/description and I can work from home

Anything else I should bring up?

A) Irrelevant because you arent going to be a W2 employee anyway, sounds like its all 1099 so majke sure you ask them that. That means they can much more easily let you go.
B) Probably no limit, but there actually will be a limit since they only have so much work available and it will be divided over so many contractors.
C) If you are a 1099 contractor no tax.
D) Be sure to ask that
E) Is there any other forms of compensation such as bonuses, raise per post after a certain amount of time, etc.
 
is it per listing you put up or per listing that actually sells?

You sure your dodge charger can handle a 1 hour commute each way, 5 days a week?
 
A) Irrelevant because you arent going to be a W2 employee anyway, sounds like its all 1099 so majke sure you ask them that. That means they can much more easily let you go.
B) Probably no limit, but there actually will be a limit since they only have so much work available and it will be divided over so many contractors.
C) If you are a 1099 contractor no tax.
D) Be sure to ask that
E) Is there any other forms of compensation such as bonuses, raise per post after a certain amount of time, etc.

Yea but even If im a W2 employee I dont wanna put my 2 week notices in to my other 2 jobs if this job isnt gonna be atleast somewhat permanent. Because they prob want me to start next week but Im scheduled for the next 2-3 weeks already for my other 2 current jobs

On the CL ad, it said for compensation: up to 1600/month plus bonuses, so Ill def clarify this. They said you get $1.50 per post for the first 2 weeks, then it drops to $1.25 per post, but you also get $1.00 per post at the end of the week as a bonus. So really you get $2.25 per post

thx for ur help dawg

Maybe ill even get my 360 fixed by them! for free!
 
Yea but even If im a W2 employee I dont wanna put my 2 week notices in to my other 2 jobs if this job isnt gonna be atleast somewhat permanent. Because they prob want me to start next week but Im scheduled for the next 2-3 weeks already for my other 2 current jobs

On the CL ad, it said for compensation: up to 1600/month plus bonuses, so Ill def clarify this. They said you get $1.50 per post for the first 2 weeks, then it drops to $1.25 per post, but you also get $1.00 per post at the end of the week as a bonus. So really you get $2.25 per post

thx for ur help dawg

Maybe ill even get my 360 fixed by them! for free!

Why does it drop from 1.50 to 1.25 lol, even with the bonus situation ive never heard of that

PM me the ad rob
 
A) Irrelevant because you arent going to be a W2 employee anyway, sounds like its all 1099 so majke sure you ask them that. That means they can much more easily let you go.
B) Probably no limit, but there actually will be a limit since they only have so much work available and it will be divided over so many contractors.
C) If you are a 1099 contractor no tax.
D) Be sure to ask that
E) Is there any other forms of compensation such as bonuses, raise per post after a certain amount of time, etc.
1099 employees have to pay taxes rob. Usually quarterly, but it's not always necessary.


So yeah, they don't take taxes out from your weekly earnings, but you still have to pay. Company seems legit if they are making him a 1099 employee and not just paying him under the table. Cash or not, the company is going to report the money they are paying out to him. He might be able to fudge it some, but just not paying at all is not a good idea.
 
is it per listing you put up or per listing that actually sells?

You sure your dodge charger can handle a 1 hour commute each way, 5 days a week?

lol. no it is for each listing i put up whether it sells or not. I will clarify on this though.

and yea my dodge avenger can def handelt that, it gets about 25+ on the highway. It only has 125,000 miles on it. Whats that car part your supposed to replace around 130-140k miles?
 
1099 employees have to pay taxes rob. Usually quarterly, but it's not always necessary.


So yeah, they don't take taxes out from your weekly earnings, but you still have to pay. Company seems legit if they are making him a 1099 employee and not just paying him under the table. Cash or not, the company is going to report the money they are paying out to him. He might be able to fudge it some, but just not paying at all is not a good idea.

Yes obviously there are taxes to pay but he was asking if the company takes taxes from the pay is what i was talking about.

Glad, in the ad it states its an intership. Better clarify that with them because internships are temporary type stuff
 
Yes obviously there are taxes to pay but he was asking if the company takes taxes from the pay is what i was talking about.

Glad, in the ad it states its an intership. Better clarify that with them because internships are temporary type stuff

Yea I will clarify this as well. I hope it all works out and its what Im making it out to be.
 
I'm sure there's something that's being missed. Probably the drop in pay per listing is you get that other half when (if) the item sells. Do it from home. If they take the pics and make the listings for you, there's no reason they can't email them to you. It takes all of about 10 more seconds. Stupid to waste gas on a work from home gig. Plus, you could work your own hours. You could still do it 8-5 or work into the evenings or weekends. If all you're doing is posting ebay listings, why not?
 
do that shit from home.. screw 2 hours day drive time.. you can go to the office 2x week if need be but otherwise it's work from home..
 
Yes obviously there are taxes to pay but he was asking if the company takes taxes from the pay is what i was talking about.

Glad, in the ad it states its an intership. Better clarify that with them because internships are temporary type stuff

A killer internship? If this is a killer paid/unpaid hay-bailing internship, he must take this job at ALL costs.

Glad:

Even if you have to pay them money to work there, you must do it. This is how Redsam launched himself into EF greatness.
 
I'd love to see glad be 1099 and actually paying his taxes once every 3 months.

Cut to March '12: "ok bors got this fucking letter from the IRS wtf do I do HELP!"
 
I'd love to see glad be 1099 and actually paying his taxes once every 3 months.

Cut to March '12: "ok bors got this fucking letter from the IRS wtf do I do HELP!"

Everyone should have to do that. This would be a different country if everyone had to write a check to their government every quarter and treat it like any other household expense.
 
Speaking of which, I am due to cut a check in 13 days. :(

Any good websites on cheating on your taxes?
 
I'm sure there's something that's being missed. Probably the drop in pay per listing is you get that other half when (if) the item sells. Do it from home. If they take the pics and make the listings for you, there's no reason they can't email them to you. It takes all of about 10 more seconds. Stupid to waste gas on a work from home gig. Plus, you could work your own hours. You could still do it 8-5 or work into the evenings or weekends. If all you're doing is posting ebay listings, why not?


They have thousands of items, Im almost 100% sure you get paid per posy you list, not when the item sells. I think I would make way more if it were that way?

Either way Im def asking them all those questions on Monday. I do think its stupid to drive there, but tat the same time how do they know its me doing the work and not someone else. Maybe for the first couple weeks they are strict and then they will ease up a bit, not sure.
 
They have thousands of items, Im almost 100% sure you get paid per posy you list, not when the item sells. I think I would make way more if it were that way?

Either way Im def asking them all those questions on Monday. I do think its stupid to drive there, but tat the same time how do they know its me doing the work and not someone else. Maybe for the first couple weeks they are strict and then they will ease up a bit, not sure.

lol @ "how do they know its me doing the work and not someone else?" If they hire you as a 1099 contractor, you/ll sign a contract. If you hire out someone else at $1.00 a post and you keep the extra $1.50 or whatever, who cares? They may say you can't sub out the work, so you won't (at least you tell them you won't). Regardless, as long as the work is being done to their satisfaction there shouldn't be any problems. If you do sub out the work don't tell them as you could be breaking your contract.
 
lol @ "how do they know its me doing the work and not someone else?" If they hire you as a 1099 contractor, you/ll sign a contract. If you hire out someone else at $1.00 a post and you keep the extra $1.50 or whatever, who cares? They may say you can't sub out the work, so you won't (at least you tell them you won't). Regardless, as long as the work is being done to their satisfaction there shouldn't be any problems. If you do sub out the work don't tell them as you could be breaking your contract.

I know, its like who cares, I agree bro.. I was just thinking of reasons why they wouldnt let me do it from home. It cant take too long to send the photos and item descriptions.

I wouldnt sub out the work anyway, I am good at the ebay shit. Just look at my store, 100% positive feedback, over 600 feedback. Im a God on ebay and Ill be a God at this new job
 
Be sure to use the dumbass photo of you at a ball game or something that you have on your apricot scam ebay profile somewhere on this new profile you set up.

Looks very professional.

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Be sure to use the dumbass photo of you at a ball game or something that you have on your apricot scam ebay profile somewhere on this new profile you set up.

Looks very professional.

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how did u find out my pic lol, and super lolz @ ebay scam, if i was a scammer how come i have over 600 positive feedback, and not 1 negative over 6 years?!?!?!?!

I will change the pic, that one is with my ex fiance, shes bangin now damnit haha
 
if i was a scammer how come i have over 600 positive feedback, and not 1 negative over 6 years?!?!?!?!

The same reason Sarah Palin would get roughly 30% of the popular vote if she ran for President.

A lot of people are retarded.
 
The same reason Sarah Palin would get roughly 30% of the popular vote if she ran for President.

A lot of people are retarded.


The retarded people are the ones that use chemotherapy and radiation to get rid of their cancer. And they dont realize that our diet and exercise and supplements can get rid of cancer, tons of people have done it without chemo. But its all good homie Ill keep making my money on ebay and u do ur thing
 
Sounds extremely sketchy.


They have software that posts multiple listings at the touch of a button. So why would they pay you a decent wage for it?
 
The retarded people are the ones that use chemotherapy and radiation to get rid of their cancer. And they dont realize that our diet and exercise and supplements can get rid of cancer, tons of people have done it without chemo. But its all good homie Ill keep making my money on ebay and u do ur thing

lol

I mean, lol @ the entire post. But yeah, lol.
 
The retarded people are the ones that use chemotherapy and radiation to get rid of their cancer. And they dont realize that our diet and exercise and supplements can get rid of cancer, tons of people have done it without chemo. But its all good homie Ill keep making my money on ebay and u do ur thing



It's called Science bro. Look into it.

If supplements and diet and exercise and can cure cancer, um, why haven't people been curing cancer with it?

Billions of dollars have been invested into cancer research. They aren't trying everything possible then?

What a shit ton of BS
 
Not only is glad acting like he has an IQ higher than 50, but he's also insulting literally everybody that has died from cancer after undergoing the only medically proven therapy to fight it.

You stay classy, San Diego.
 
It's called Science bro. Look into it.

If supplements and diet and exercise and can cure cancer, um, why haven't people been curing cancer with it?

Billions of dollars have been invested into cancer research. They aren't trying everything possible then?

What a shit ton of BS


Yea I know its called science. Diet, exercise, supplements will help. I cant say it will cure. But chemo kills people and people that buy from me are smart enough to realize they want to try an alternative route first.

Billions of dollars are being wasted lol ur never gonna find a cure

come back to this post when you have cancer bro
 
lol chemotherapy saved ur moms life because the cancer wasnt out of control. Chemo kills white blood cells and cancer cells, big deal. Its the last route you want to go, thats for sure.



I'll forgo the insults here because it will cloud the issue.

The definition of cancer is out of control cell growth

You can't control cancer, you kill it. Of course that will take a toll on the body, but you'd rather take some damage and be alive right?

Glad you're lol'ing at someone having cancer.
 
Killing cancer is like carpet bombing a city, sure you will kill innocent civilians, but you are going to kill the insurgents as well.
 
I'll forgo the insults here because it will cloud the issue.

The definition of cancer is out of control cell growth

You can't control cancer, you kill it. Of course that will take a toll on the body, but you'd rather take some damage and be alive right?


cancer cells rapidly multiply and divide, which is what chemotherapy attacks. It messes up the DNA in these cells. It just so happens that WBC also rapidly multiply and divide. You cant kill cancer. Everyone has cancer cells and always will. Taking chemo will kill the cancer cells but if you kill the WBC in your body, you are killing your immune system, which is the only line of defense in your body to attack cancer! So really it should be used cautiously. Doctors automatically say chemo because they hear the word cancer when that shouldnt be the case. I am glad your mom is alive though bro that is always good to hear. I didnt mean to lol at that.

I HONESTLY believe, if anyone would take the time and research and NOT listen to the government/pharma companies, that diet/exercise/supps.no stress is the key. I think a LOW dose of chemo would be ideal, but there are so many people dying of cancer because of chemo, not the cancer itself.

I wont argue about this anymore though - people buy them from me and there is a reason why. Its because they have done their research
 
Glad, of all the people you sell apricot seeds to, how many contact you several months later and say "Thanks for curing my cancer!"
 
Glad, of all the people you sell apricot seeds to, how many contact you several months later and say "Thanks for curing my cancer!"


lol, How many people contact orbit nutrition directly and say "thank you for allowing me to gain 15lbs of muscle!"

Its not the point whether it works or not, nothing is a guarantee. Just like chemo. I just believe that chemotherapy should be a last resort, why not try the natural way first. Eating god given fruits straight from mother earth. Our diets COMPLETELY lack the nutrients that apricot seeds provide, vitamin B17. Healthy oils, antoxidants, etc.

You know how many people die from chemo a year? Lots

Hundreds of cancer patient deaths 'caused by chemotherapy' - Telegraph

OK im done lol
 
to prevent cancer mantain a healthy and balanced lifestyle, and also environmental factors. if you live a stressful life, or smoke cigarettes of course that will increase your chance of getting cancer. unfortunatley sometimes you have a stressful job or a situation that comes up that causes you to stress for months or years. knew a guy who the feds went after hard for bad business practices, and he had a 2 year court case which dragged on. by the time the case was over the poor schmuck had died from cancer. the stress took a toll on him, probably barely slept those 2 years, worried about his family.. etc. he fought the feds for 2 years in court and ended up dead. had he just ran his business ethically he would probably still be alive today
 
the rap was for jokes, but damn guys this kid has definitely changed me. I quit cigs the day he was born, havent smoked since March 1st. Ive also not worn a hat since then....I just feel more mature already. It definitely is a good thing. Its funny how some of u guys say you dont want to have a kid at an early age because you wanna party and fuck 5's and 6's. Thats cool but to tell me my life was over was just ridiculous, you dont WANT to do those things when you have a kid. Yea I could if I wanted to, but I would rather step up and be involved in my childs life. I WANT to be involved. I dont want to smoke cigs anymore. I dont want to party either. I just want to be a good father
 
the rap was for jokes, but damn guys this kid has definitely changed me. I quit cigs the day he was born, havent smoked since March 1st. Ive also not worn a hat since then....I just feel more mature already. It definitely is a good thing. Its funny how some of u guys say you dont want to have a kid at an early age because you wanna party and fuck 5's and 6's. Thats cool but to tell me my life was over was just ridiculous, you dont WANT to do those things when you have a kid. Yea I could if I wanted to, but I would rather step up and be involved in my childs life. I WANT to be involved. I dont want to smoke cigs anymore. I dont want to party either. I just want to be a good father

I like to give you shit, but this is a good post.
 
Yea but even If im a W2 employee I dont wanna put my 2 week notices in to my other 2 jobs if this job isnt gonna be atleast somewhat permanent. Because they prob want me to start next week but Im scheduled for the next 2-3 weeks already for my other 2 current jobs

On the CL ad, it said for compensation: up to 1600/month plus bonuses, so Ill def clarify this. They said you get $1.50 per post for the first 2 weeks, then it drops to $1.25 per post, but you also get $1.00 per post at the end of the week as a bonus. So really you get $2.25 per post

thx for ur help dawg

Maybe ill even get my 360 fixed by them! for free!
$1600 a month that YOU have to pay the taxes on. Granted, you get a significant amount of deductions, but this sounds so sketchy. You also lose things, like health insurance and workers comp.

Anything that involves self employment and hard time on a keyboard to make your $$$ is NOT an easy way to make a living. You WILL work twice as hard being self employed as you do on a W2, always. Self employed AND commission? :sick:
 
$1600 a month that YOU have to pay the taxes on. Granted, you get a significant amount of deductions, but this sounds so sketchy. You also lose things, like health insurance and workers comp.

Anything that involves self employment and hard time on a keyboard to make your $$$ is NOT an easy way to make a living. You WILL work twice as hard being self employed as you do on a W2, always. Self employed AND commission? :sick:


Havent had health insurance for years, and workmans comp for sitting on a keyboard all day? I dont need that haha

I know what u are saying. It sounds sketchy because most of the time it is, but this might be different. The lady seemed real legit, and said there last ebay guy just fell behind and started not posting the items correctly.

To make $11.25/hr, according to them, I would have to post 5 things each hour. That seems really easy. It takes me 5 minutes now.

But either way Im keeping my 2 jobs (Hotel, Chili's). I will work them on the weekends if this gig is legit and its M-F. Ill be working 7 days a week for a good 4-5 months and then I might drop the 2 PT jobs I have right now if the ebay job is legit. I also have my ebay business that I make 200-300 a month on.
 
the rap was for jokes, but damn guys this kid has definitely changed me. I quit cigs the day he was born, havent smoked since March 1st. Ive also not worn a hat since then....I just feel more mature already. It definitely is a good thing. Its funny how some of u guys say you dont want to have a kid at an early age because you wanna party and fuck 5's and 6's. Thats cool but to tell me my life was over was just ridiculous, you dont WANT to do those things when you have a kid. Yea I could if I wanted to, but I would rather step up and be involved in my childs life. I WANT to be involved. I dont want to smoke cigs anymore. I dont want to party either. I just want to be a good father

Having a kid doesn't only impact your social life. It limits you professionally and educationally if you still need to grow in these areas. you can't afford to go to school full time and work because you have a child. you don't have a degree Or a legitimate career. This means you have to focus a lot more on the "now" than the future.all your decisions are tied to another human being. You talk about doing "xyz" business but you know how many people don't start a business while having a family because they simply can't afford to fail? It's a lot different when you only have yourself to worry about

I'm not trying to rag on you but don't make such a ridiculous statement and pretend like this beats being able to experience a life of relative freedom where you have time to develop and experience. It is what is and you make the best of it, but there's not a single twenty something that would trade places with you in that situation.
 
Professionally and educationally? I am doing PTA program. Takes 21 months to complete. I start it in the next 6 -12 months. So by the time my baby is 3 years old I will have my career. Grants help. So do student loans - thats what they are for. Im gonna have to work 7 days a week if i have to until I get my PTA cert. Im TOTALLY ok with that lol.

Who says I cant focus on the future? What do you think the PTA cert I am going to get is gonna be for? What about investing in my silver for long term savings? What about giving my baby mom a chance so my baby has a family that is so rare these days?

Why do I need relative freedom? Granted when you dont have a kid you can be a little more selfish, but that is a selfish statement. Dont say what i said is a ridiculous statement, anybody with a kid would understand what I am talking about. You are single and have no baby. I bet its pretty lonely. What do you have to show for your life so far? Wow a Degree? A piece of fuckin paper? Congrats I guess, but I have a baby and I will be a grandad before Im 50. I will be able to experience more family which is better than anything "relative freedom" could bring me.

Having a kid doesn't only impact your social life. It limits you professionally and educationally if you still need to grow in these areas. you can't afford to go to school full time and work because you have a child. you don't have a degree Or a legitimate career. This means you have to focus a lot more on the "now" than the future.all your decisions are tied to another human being.

I'm not trying to rag on you but don't make such a ridiculous statement and pretend like this beats being able to experience a life of relative freedom where you have time to develop and experience. It is what is and you make the best of it, but there's not a single twenty something that would trade places with you in that situation.
 
Havent had health insurance for years, and workmans comp for sitting on a keyboard all day? I dont need that haha

I know what u are saying. It sounds sketchy because most of the time it is, but this might be different. The lady seemed real legit, and said there last ebay guy just fell behind and started not posting the items correctly.

To make $11.25/hr, according to them, I would have to post 5 things each hour. That seems really easy. It takes me 5 minutes now.

But either way Im keeping my 2 jobs (Hotel, Chili's). I will work them on the weekends if this gig is legit and its M-F. Ill be working 7 days a week for a good 4-5 months and then I might drop the 2 PT jobs I have right now if the ebay job is legit. I also have my ebay business that I make 200-300 a month on.
Never heard of carpal tunnel syndrome? :D And steroids + keyboard + weights actually increases your odds of getting CTS (or any other repetative motion stress injury).

Additionally, bear in mind that when you're working for yourself you basically need to be earning 1/3 to 1/2 MORE than you would make if you were getting paid on a W2 because of the taxes that come out. And you MUST pay those taxes, the penalties hurt like hell if you miss them. And if you're going to be getting a 1099 it's not like Ebay stuff, you're going to have someone declaring what they paid you, the subcontractor. Now you will be able to deduct things, like office space, electricity, gas, etc., but you're going to have to start keeping a record of all of that, too.

And you can get away without paying the quarterlies (I only pay mine twice a year) but you need to do your taxes properly from the start. Honestly, unless you're very good with numbers it's worth it to go to a CPA.

I should have worded myself differently when I said sketchy. I I meant that it sounds a little like a bait and switch. I'm getting so old that honestly, I've decided if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

I could be wrong :whatever: I wish you luck. If you're not going to give up your safety net (your other jobs) then what the heck, go for it.

Oh, one thing, in terms of doing what you're doing now on Ebay for yourself versus doing it for someone else ... people get really bitchy and nit picky about quality when they're paying you to type for them, seriously.
 
Professionally and educationally? I am doing PTA program. Takes 21 months to complete. I start it in the next 6 -12 months. So by the time my baby is 3 years old I will have my career. Grants help. So do student loans - thats what they are for. Im gonna have to work 7 days a week if i have to until I get my PTA cert. Im TOTALLY ok with that lol.

Who says I cant focus on the future? What do you think the PTA cert I am going to get is gonna be for? What about investing in my silver for long term savings? What about giving my baby mom a chance so my baby has a family that is so rare these days?

Why do I need relative freedom? Granted when you dont have a kid you can be a little more selfish, but that is a selfish statement. Dont say what i said is a ridiculous statement, anybody with a kid would understand what I am talking about. You are single and have no baby. I bet its pretty lonely. What do you have to show for your life so far? Wow a Degree? A piece of fuckin paper? Congrats I guess, but I have a baby and I will be a grandad before Im 50. I will be able to experience more family which is better than anything "relative freedom" could bring me.

I wonder if you honestly believe the things you say or bother to read it.

I'm not sure what 20 something is "lonely" because he doesn't have a kid. Usually friends, a significant other, and pets fill that void just fine for most people till they're ready to have a kid.

And what not having a kid at your age has given me
Is the opportunity to experience a wide variety of things in life, which I've learned and grown from.
I was able to take chances, and even when I failed, I was able to recover and transition quickly while learning from my mistakes. It's called personal growth, and that concept changes drastically when you have a child. Your margin for error is almost non existent.
 
HAHAA I will get CTS, watch...

Well if it all goes well and I DO get the job, and it is legit, permanent, and I know 100% I will make good money, I will start keeping track of expenses and I wont get behind on my taxes. This would just be a better M-F job than my shitty minimum wage hotel job. I usually only work at Chili's on the weekend anyway. Plus I hate getting up at 3:40 AM to get to work at 4AM at the hotel

Its ok, I know it sounds sketchy. But I understand what you are saying. My dad is the same way. He says its just being cautious though. People screw you and you cant just jump into things. He said the same thing - as soon as I told him it was a commission job he said be careful. I agree though, totally. As long as I know there is a minimum I will make based on the qork I know i can accomplish, then were good to go.

I guess the last ebay person they had got firedb ecause he wasnt posting things in accordance to ebay policies...? But he also posted his personal stuff on the account and Im pretty sure thats what went against the ebay policies...so they had a bad standing with ebay and they cant afford that. I wont need to do that because I have my personal ebay account.

I go in today at 1PM, wish me luck.

Never heard of carpal tunnel syndrome? :D And steroids + keyboard + weights actually increases your odds of getting CTS (or any other repetative motion stress injury).

Additionally, bear in mind that when you're working for yourself you basically need to be earning 1/3 to 1/2 MORE than you would make if you were getting paid on a W2 because of the taxes that come out. And you MUST pay those taxes, the penalties hurt like hell if you miss them. And if you're going to be getting a 1099 it's not like Ebay stuff, you're going to have someone declaring what they paid you, the subcontractor. Now you will be able to deduct things, like office space, electricity, gas, etc., but you're going to have to start keeping a record of all of that, too.

And you can get away without paying the quarterlies (I only pay mine twice a year) but you need to do your taxes properly from the start. Honestly, unless you're very good with numbers it's worth it to go to a CPA.

I should have worded myself differently when I said sketchy. I I meant that it sounds a little like a bait and switch. I'm getting so old that honestly, I've decided if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

I could be wrong :whatever: I wish you luck. If you're not going to give up your safety net (your other jobs) then what the heck, go for it.

Oh, one thing, in terms of doing what you're doing now on Ebay for yourself versus doing it for someone else ... people get really bitchy and nit picky about quality when they're paying you to type for them, seriously.
 
the rap was for jokes, but damn guys this kid has definitely changed me. I quit cigs the day he was born, havent smoked since March 1st. Ive also not worn a hat since then....I just feel more mature already. It definitely is a good thing. Its funny how some of u guys say you dont want to have a kid at an early age because you wanna party and fuck 5's and 6's. Thats cool but to tell me my life was over was just ridiculous, you dont WANT to do those things when you have a kid. Yea I could if I wanted to, but I would rather step up and be involved in my childs life. I WANT to be involved. I dont want to smoke cigs anymore. I dont want to party either. I just want to be a good father

The fullfillment you get out of having a kid will ALWAYS outweight whatever you think you are getting from being out partying. I think that happens at any age - just sometimes people don't see it.

Ask Mitch, Jngr, and Cindy - I believe they will all tell you the same.

I believe you get it - good luck and enjoy!!
 
I guess you just dont understand what i am saying. if you happened to have a kid, on purpose or not, and knew he was yours, and held him, and started to love him, you wouldnt miss being single. All Im saying is that Im 21 and already have a family, which is a blessing to me. But to you it seems like a burden? But its not bro! Better start raw doggin it :D lol jk

Sometimes you make no sense to me. What chances can I not take now? What chances did you take and fail? Ill always be able to get a job. Look at me bro, not being cocky but I can always get a part time job. I can always get support from my family or my g/f's family.

I wonder why you think by not having a kid you are able to experience more personal growth.

LOLZ you can go worry about your personal growth, and Ill worry about my Family growth :)



I wonder if you honestly believe the things you say or bother to read it.

I'm not sure what 20 something is "lonely" because he doesn't have a kid. Usually friends, a significant other, and pets fill that void just fine for most people till they're ready to have a kid.

And what not having a kid at your age has given me
Is the opportunity to experience a wide variety of things in life, which I've learned and grown from.
I was able to take chances, and even when I failed, I was able to recover and transition quickly while learning from my mistakes. It's called personal growth, and that concept changes drastically when you have a child. Your margin for error is almost non existent.
 
the rap was for jokes, but damn guys this kid has definitely changed me. I quit cigs the day he was born, havent smoked since March 1st. Ive also not worn a hat since then....I just feel more mature already. It definitely is a good thing. Its funny how some of u guys say you dont want to have a kid at an early age because you wanna party and fuck 5's and 6's. Thats cool but to tell me my life was over was just ridiculous, you dont WANT to do those things when you have a kid. Yea I could if I wanted to, but I would rather step up and be involved in my childs life. I WANT to be involved. I dont want to smoke cigs anymore. I dont want to party either. I just want to be a good father

ahahah
 
The fullfillment you get out of having a kid will ALWAYS outweight whatever you think you are getting from being out partying. I think that happens at any age - just sometimes people don't see it.

Ask Mitch, Jngr, and Cindy - I believe they will all tell you the same.

I believe you get it - good luck and enjoy!!


Thank you bro! I need to get a videocamera to start recording him. Well hes still just crying but still would be nice. Nothing better than old family pics and videos

I agree - I feel like I am ahead of the game.

CW will be the kind of guy that puts off having a kid so he can get stuff done for HIM. Its just selfish. Its not wrong I dont think, but damn, after having this baby I could just imagine me being mid 20's and saying I dont want a kid because I wanna open up a business. Im so happy I had this baby
 
Thank you bro! I need to get a videocamera to start recording him. Well hes still just crying but still would be nice. Nothing better than old family pics and videos

I agree - I feel like I am ahead of the game.

CW will be the kind of guy that puts off having a kid so he can get stuff done for HIM. Its just selfish. Its not wrong I dont think, but damn, after having this baby I could just imagine me being mid 20's and saying I dont want a kid because I wanna open up a business. Im so happy I had this baby

LOL. You're a riot.

Putting off having a kid till being
completely established professionally in order to give them access to the best education, upbringing and culture is really selfish. And it's also really selfish to wait till you find a suitable wife to be a mother and life partner.
 
LOL. You're a riot.

Putting off having a kid till being
completely established professionally in order to give them access to the best education, upbringing and culture is really selfish. And it's also really selfish to wait till you find a suitable wife to be a mother and life partner.

I am doing the same thing as far as a career goes and giving them the best education and upbringing whether I had this baby or not.
 
Putting off having a kid till being
completely established professionally in order to give them access to the best education, upbringing and culture is really selfish. And it's also really selfish to wait till you find a suitable wife to be a mother and life partner.

Dammit, stole my post.

lol @ people not having kids until theyre in their 30s because they wanna party and bang wimminz.

Per CW's post, most people wait because they arent being selfish...they want to be at a point in their lives where they are responsible and can provide their children with the best environment possible.

And double lolz @ "look at me, I can always get a part time job." So can crack addicts.
 
Dammit, stole my post.

lol @ people not having kids until theyre in their 30s because they wanna party and bang wimminz.

Per CW's post, most people wait because they arent being selfish...they want to be at a point in their lives where they are responsible and can provide their children with the best environment possible.

And double lolz @ "look at me, I can always get a part time job." So can crack addicts.


Nah, a lot of people want to party. Some want to save and be good parents, but not most.

My point about a part time job was that i can still take chances and be able to provide for my kid. He might not be driving a BMW, but I will still provide for him.

Of course I wish I had more money for my baby and our family, and I had already finished school, and had a career.
 
The fullfillment you get out of having a kid will ALWAYS outweight whatever you think you are getting from being out partying. I think that happens at any age - just sometimes people don't see it.

Ask Mitch, Jngr, and Cindy - I believe they will all tell you the same.

I believe you get it - good luck and enjoy!!

Mitch was the next in line for the family business and has a wife that earns a good living while also
Not cheating on him. Jnig was in his 30's when Q was born and has had success in business at a high level. Cindy had a baby at close to a standard age for women (late 20's) and had a husband at the time who had a career.

To compare those situations to glad's
is insulting to everyone involved.
 
lol
 


nah bro, ur still a selfish bitch

:heart:

nah i agree, Im not talking about people that plan for their families, but the ones that wanna party. Seems like if you are on this forum then you are not really into partying.

But for you to say I wont get personal growth is stupid. I will get plenty of that just from having this baby. What have you gained that I wont because of the baby?
 
Mitch was the next in line for the family business and has a wife that earns a good living while also
Not cheating on him. Jnig was in his 30's when Q was born and has had success in business at a high level. Cindy had a baby at close to a standard age for women (late 20's) and had a husband at the time who had a career.

To compare those situations to glad's
is insulting to everyone involved.

Not as insulting as you acting you konw that the fuck you are talking about on the subject of children.
 
lol @ the people on this forum not partying.


yea i know, wtf am i talking about lol

look its fuckin early i dont have time to debate stupid shit. All I know is that I love my baby, I love my family, I am blessed to have 2 jobs and a loving family, Im healthy as a mutha fucker, I can make sick rap beats and play the guitar like a champ, Im a good listener, I actually have a savings account now, and my family means everything to me. It is fulfilling like billfred said. He obviously understands what Im talking about. You dont have to have a career and a wife to have the same fulfillment.
 
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A wife is materialistic?
 
And what not having a kid at your age has given me
Is the opportunity to experience a wide variety of things in life, which I've learned and grown from.
I was able to take chances, and even when I failed, I was able to recover and transition quickly while learning from my mistakes. It's called personal growth, and that concept changes drastically when you have a child. Your margin for error is almost non existent.

You gave absolutely no examples. Just curious what exactly you think you have achieved by not having a kid? Specifics, thx

I am under the impression you believe having a kid changes everything around you, that theory is flawed my friend. If in fact you do feel this way please DONT have kids, I would actually pity them.
 
But for you to say I wont get personal growth is stupid. I will get plenty of that just from having this baby. What have you gained that I wont because of the baby?

You'll obviously grow from having a kid this young in some ways, but its like holding a gun to the maturation process.

Not having a kid allowed me to do things like travel, be able to change careers or go back to school without consequence, go out and meet interesting people as well as network. Date a wide variety of girls to the point where I know what type of woman I want; without having a kid to detract from that.
Dating is a billion times different when you have a kid and the other person doesn't, if you even have time to meet them. Thats not me saying that, that's people in that situation saying that.

I've personally had a ton of fun, and life changing experiences and adventures I would have never been able to do while taking care of a baby. Things that have expanded my horizons and made me a better person. Theres still a lot more I want to do and see before I have a family, but I'm not one of those people who wished he "could have" because I've done it all almost.

I was able to take risks in business that taught me a tremendous amount and that will carry over to my next venture. You can't change gears or direction at the drop of a dime when you have another mouth to feed. Stability over opportunity.

I'm not saying you can't make it,you certainly can. you just made it more difficult and robbed yourself of time to really learn about yourself. You're still a kid, raising a kid.

You sound like you'll be a good father as far as actually caring about your kid, but lets be real and realize that you may not have the same opportunities than if you had waited.
 
CW was the voice of reason in this thread. I didn't really feel the need to add anything to what he said. Life is a marathon and not a sprint, hard times resulting from this are inevitable. How you handle these issues will be important.
 
CW was the voice of reason in this thread. I didn't really feel the need to add anything to what he said. Life is a marathon and not a sprint, hard times resulting from this are inevitable. How you handle these issues will be important.

B/S hard times in relation to what. What do you consider hard time Lartinos? Some of my friends consider a hard time not having their landscaper there on Tuesday morning to mow their guddamn lawn. Another buddy considers hard times not being able to break a heroin addiction that will inevitably kill them.

Whats funny is how voice of reasons come from someone who didnt have a kid yet. But I will say CW definately is a well rounded smart motha fuka. You have to admit there are just as many people who can argue the opposite with just as much poise and intellect.

Live isnt written in a book.
 
hard times for me would be only being able to do 10 reps on the bench at 225 pounds instead of 12. jk jk.

as long as i can live comfortably i have nothing to complain about. that means being able to pay my mortgage, and other bills and still have disposable income to spend on shit like sporting events, travelling etc. and still have enough leftover to stash away.

I will tell you young guys something.. no matter how much money you make, don't live outside your means. there is no need for a flashy car and a gigantic house. just live a modest life cause you might have a crummy year and quickly deplete your savings. who cares if your friend who makes half your salary has a BMW and you have a toyota... or your other friend has a 6 bedroom house and you rent
 
B/S hard times in relation to what. What do you consider hard time Lartinos? Some of my friends consider a hard time not having their landscaper there on Tuesday morning to mow their guddamn lawn. Another buddy considers hard times not being able to break a heroin addiction that will inevitably kill them.

Whats funny is how voice of reasons come from someone who didnt have a kid yet. But I will say CW definately is a well rounded smart motha fuka. You have to admit there are just as many people who can argue the opposite with just as much poise and intellect.

Live isnt written in a book.

Argue what? That having a child at 21 with a woman that is a whore was a good idea? All while not having a career, finishing his education and still living at home?

Anyone who can argue that effectively could have gotten Bernie Madoff off the hook.

(sorry glad, thats not to tear you down)

Do you have a kid Spector?
 
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