Exactly my bro,i tried tren ace only once so far a few months back ran it 9 weeks and highest dose was at 400mg for last 2 weeks...it's a two edged sword in my opinion as with the calories up high you can gain good mass but on low calories it will have you looking peeled,honestly the combo you just spoke about would leave you looking like nothing seen before I would like to do a proper cut for once this year but need to bulk more .My next blast is going to be a little different and will run test p,tren ace and hgh.kevin levrone had the right idea and most of them bodybuilders did claim low carb diet back then,but he had an amazing ability to get into a super jacked form in a short amount of time I watched alot of training footage of his and was amazed and luv his approach,hands down he should have won at least one Olympia but was always so close,true testament of a man never give up till the end.
Tell me you follow vigorous Steve?