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Macro ,starting aromasin + bromo combo today to get rid of gyno .

Mac , I have been on aromasin for 12 days now and dostinex for 9 days .

IT seems that the soft tissue was greatly reduced from both treatments ( first nolva , now this ) , also diet and YES probably helping a lot .

But from what I can see the hard tissue although smaller in comparison to what it used to be before all those treatments , is still here and it still bothers me .

How long does it usually takes to completly eliminate this ? Can it take longer than 12 days ? like 20 days ? 30 days ?

OR should I start thinking about letro or surgery :( ?

Victor
 
macrophage69alpha said:
you can use them for months, you may need to lower the aromasin dosage at some point (if still off cycle).


>>> the thing is , I am 10 lbs away from my cycle , once I lose another 10 pounds it is time for me to start my cycle . I am guessing another 3-4 weeks at the most .

BUT ....I have been told not to start it untill gyno issues are solved . in other words don't start using AAS untill you are gyno free . What do you think ?

Also , since I already have gyno , and if I REALLY start the cycle STILL with gyno , do you think I should switch to letro when starting the cycle ?

I was gonna use AIFM ...but taking 500 mg test + 400 mg EQ + winny + HGH , and already with some gyno , wouldn't be better to switch to letro when starting the cycle ? I mean , of course ONLY if you think it is ok to start with some gyno .....

I am thinking that if I can't kill my gyno now , at least it won't get ANY WORSE if I start the cycle using FEMARA ? right ?

It is really funny because it doesn't look bad when my nipples are hard ( example after a cold shower ) , but it does look bad when it's under warm / regular temperatures .

Victor
 
VictorBR said:
>>> the thing is , I am 10 lbs away from my cycle , once I lose another 10 pounds it is time for me to start my cycle . I am guessing another 3-4 weeks at the most .

BUT ....I have been told not to start it untill gyno issues are solved . in other words don't start using AAS untill you are gyno free . What do you think ?

Also , since I already have gyno , and if I REALLY start the cycle STILL with gyno , do you think I should switch to letro when starting the cycle ?

I was gonna use AIFM ...but taking 500 mg test + 400 mg EQ + winny + HGH , and already with some gyno , wouldn't be better to switch to letro when starting the cycle ? I mean , of course ONLY if you think it is ok to start with some gyno .....

I am thinking that if I can't kill my gyno now , at least it won't get ANY WORSE if I start the cycle using FEMARA ? right ?

It is really funny because it doesn't look bad when my nipples are hard ( example after a cold shower ) , but it does look bad when it's under warm / regular temperatures .

Victor

post a pic victor so we can see what you got.
 
rfowler said:
post a pic victor so we can see what you got.


>>> it doesn't help to post pics bro , the only way to really see what I have is to touch it , press it .

I am 110 % sure it is gyno , hard tissue . I also had soft tissue and fat , my chest looks better because I am way leaner now and basically all the fat and soft tissue are gone , but the hard tissue although a bit smaller is still there .

And this shit is seriously starting to piss me off big time .

Victor
 
VictorBR said:
>>> it doesn't help to post pics bro , the only way to really see what I have is to touch it , press it .

I am 110 % sure it is gyno , hard tissue . I also had soft tissue and fat , my chest looks better because I am way leaner now and basically all the fat and soft tissue are gone , but the hard tissue although a bit smaller is still there .

And this shit is seriously starting to piss me off big time .

Victor
I hear yah bro I was just wanting to compare because I have soft tissue fat around my left pec but no hard masses at all, so I think I am chalking it up to fat and not gyno. what does the hard tissue feel like exactly?
 
rfowler said:
I hear yah bro I was just wanting to compare because I have soft tissue fat around my left pec but no hard masses at all, so I think I am chalking it up to fat and not gyno. what does the hard tissue feel like exactly?


>> It just feels like a lump , it is not actually HARD , but when you press it you can feel that it is not so soft either ...it is hard to explain

All I know is that this shit is getting on my fucking nerves . :mad:


Victor
 
I am actually running something similar to you bro.....notice any other fat loss areas cuz of the combo of drugs, ie handles?
im using selegenine instead of dostinex at 5mg HS.
 
bigrand said:
I am actually running something similar to you bro.....notice any other fat loss areas cuz of the combo of drugs, ie handles?
im using selegenine instead of dostinex at 5mg HS.


>> Actually my arms and delts and chest are a bit more vascular and leaner despite the fact that I stayed at the same weight for the past 9 days .

But no noticable effects on love handles , lower abs and inner thights ( all estrogenic fat areas ) .

Macro told me lthat owering estrogen can help when trying to burn those fat areas BUT it is more of a long term process and it only helps to some extent


Victor
 
Yeah, i plan to stay on low dose AIs for say the next year....
Currently running letro at 1.25mg EOD, 5mg selegenine ED, 20mg nolva ED and tren enth/masteron.
Will add supplements such as a stim, r-ALA and CLA.

Whats your diet like?
I will try to keep it under 2000 cals ED and cardio 4-5 times a week for 30min.
I will switch to 20mg aromasin EOD when im out of the letro.
 
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