lost all gains after pct!!!

[TheUbermensch]

I did a very similar cycle 600mg test e for 8 weeks. Just had nolva on hand for PCT and gyno.

I gained 20. I've lost 10 since the cycle ended.... mainly cause it's so hard to train. I've never been this tired. I need to get some HCG. I feel like I've been shot in the ass with a tranquilizer dart.

Next time I'll probably get some sustain alpha, unleashed, HCG, and clomid..... I thought I could save money by just going with the nolvadex, but I guess it's not wise to try to "cost-cut" on PCT. Seems like, to do it properly, PCT will cost about the same as the cycle. Sigh.

I'm not sure if I'll recover on Nolva alone. My nuts still seem to be about 60-75% their original size 3 weeks afterwards. If I still feel tired in a couple weeks I may try a few doses of HCG....

 

[princeshock]

I smell a Bogus thread and bogus training going on. Steroids are only Miracle Grow if you have an increadible workout ethic. SO GET ONE!

 

[TONY83]

Well after reading all these posts about how good of a diet u should be to gain good muscle weight and no drinking on a cycle and shit... A body of mine who is 32, 6'5" 300lb 10% BF eats fucking fast food all the fucking time, drinks everyweekend, so explain that to me...? The dude is a monster, but he also has bn on GH for 5 years now, he has taken all kinds of anabolics, and yea I forgot he stays on them year round lol, not smart in my openion, but he won't listen to nobody, I am afraid soon he is gonna have major heath prob. Anyway makes me wonder if the GH is keeping him with the low body fat or is it the gear? Hard to tell!

 

[scotty too hotty]

You need to realize the human body is composed of millions of tiny cells. The good news is that testosterone and other steroids give these cells the capability to grow bigger and metabolize nutrients more efficiently than they normally would. The bad news for you is that these cells die off daily. That is why people need drugs all of the time to stay big, but despite this you shouldn't have lost that much. Maybe you never learned to eat properly natural, I say this because 20 pounds is a lot of wait to gain for just a test cycle. If you don't have any foundation of muscle then you will lose everything you've gained. I know people that can't bench 315 unless they're on something. That is pathetic in my opinion. Do you squat more than you can bench? If not, then don't consider using steroids yet. And yes, hcg will definetely help restore natural levels, so def use it.

 

[skaman007]

cant believe this thread still here,lol////////been a year and ive had no drink for 9 months....trainings goin well...im ready for another cycle..clean....any ideas?to recap im 41 .185lbs.13percent bf..so far had several unsuccessful cycles due to drinking whiltst on..

 

[-SD-]

cant believe this thread still here,lol////////been a year and ive had no drink for 9 months....trainings goin well...im ready for another cycle..clean....any ideas?to recap im 41 .185lbs.13percent bf..so far had several unsuccessful cycles due to drinking whiltst on..

sounds like youre an alcoholic if youve had multiple failed cycles because of drinking. I would have learned my lesson after one shitty cycle.