lost all gains after pct!!!

[skaman007]

hi ,i have just finished pct after 12 weeks of test ethanate at 500mgs per week,i only gained 9lbs ,and after 4weeks of nolvadex pct i have lost all of the 9lbs!!!it was my first injectable cycle after doing several oral only cycles in the past.i drank most weekends whilst on ,quite heavily so i think that accounts for only gaining 9lbs,but didnt think i would lose it all,.i am 40 yrs old,190lbs,15per cent bf.i cant wait to go back on ,and this time no drink whatsosever!!is 8 weeks after pct long enough to wait?

 

[mr.nitro]

it means you messed up. one way or another you didn't do something right

 

[needtogetaas]

Might have needed hcg bro. I would also try using something else with the nolva for pct next time.

 

[Arabian]

What was your diet like.. you should have gained more.

 

[Tatyana]

What is your training like?

Training intensity is often the key.

 

[Nelson Montana]

What is your training like?

Training intensity is often the key.

Yep, sounds like you really didn't train/eat correctly during and afterward. And nolva is a shitty PCT drug. No surprise.

 

[skaman007]

What was your diet like.. you should have gained more.

diet was 3500 cals a day,uisually take in 3000.protein 200g.training was 4 x week ,each bodypart once a week,12 sets in the 6-8 rep range,.what is a good cycle for 8weeks and would i need hcg for that?

 

[Tatyana]

diet was 3500 cals a day,uisually take in 3000.protein 200g.training was 4 x week ,each bodypart once a week,12 sets in the 6-8 rep range,.what is a good cycle for 8weeks and would i need hcg for that?

This is the thing hun, unless you are doing the grunting painful sets, exactly what you are doing, sets and reps, really makes no difference.

I see lads go through workout after workout in my gym, training like my nan.

This may not be you, this is just one thing I have observed that does seem to be a common issue.

The other issue may be that if you are slow twitch/red fiber dominant, or ectomorphic, the 6-8 rep range may not be optimal for you.

Hardgainers often fare better on an all body workout two or three times a week.

It isn't the drugs that will make a difference.

I have put on close to that amount of muscle since January, nattie, and on maintenance calories.

 

[Chocolate_Thunder]

hi ,i have just finished pct after 12 weeks of test ethanate at 500mgs per week,i only gained 9lbs ,and after 4weeks of nolvadex pct i have lost all of the 9lbs!!!it was my first injectable cycle after doing several oral only cycles in the past.i drank most weekends whilst on ,quite heavily so i think that accounts for only gaining 9lbs,but didnt think i would lose it all,.i am 40 yrs old,190lbs,15per cent bf.i cant wait to go back on ,and this time no drink whatsosever!!is 8 weeks after pct long enough to wait?

Here is what may have hurt you:

Diet, training intensity, cardio (will destroy gains after a cycle) and the drinking. Drinking will kill protein synthesis for up to 4 days after. That right there will KILL your gains.

 

[dabuffguy]

Drinking heavily on the weekends and you're 40? That's a great way to get liver cancer.