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Loosing muscle while jogging ?????
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ThaiFighter
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I always keep heart rate around 170-180 for 15-20 mins. Leans me up way faster than 30 mins slower paced. Keeps my strength much better as well when cutting.
Tatyana
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It is thought that the best cardio for using fat as a substrate in your body is
1. Early morning fasted
2. Low intensity (walking)
3. More than 30 min
4. Some coffee or OTC fat burners with caffeine
5. Few BCAAs to protect against muscle catabolism
6. Some have recommended a small protein shake, jury is out on this one
7. Some recommend tiny bit of carbs like orange/grapefruit juice, again you would have to experiment
You will adapt to this, so switching it with HIIT is a good idea.
1. Early morning fasted
2. Low intensity (walking)
3. More than 30 min
4. Some coffee or OTC fat burners with caffeine
5. Few BCAAs to protect against muscle catabolism
6. Some have recommended a small protein shake, jury is out on this one
7. Some recommend tiny bit of carbs like orange/grapefruit juice, again you would have to experiment
You will adapt to this, so switching it with HIIT is a good idea.
goku_kakarot77
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+2Varga said:
the best to loose weight and maintain muscle imo
peace
silver_shadow
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lift first then do 15-20 mins of HIIT.
HIIT = high intensity interval training. basically, you alternate between high & low paced cardio. there are lots of ways to do it - most common would be something like 1 minute high intensity, 1 minute low intensity. choose any form of cardio you like - treadmill and cycle are the most obvious choices. actual cycling and jogging/sprinting is obviously better if you can do it. do it for a total of 15-20 mins 3-4 times a week.
HIIT = high intensity interval training. basically, you alternate between high & low paced cardio. there are lots of ways to do it - most common would be something like 1 minute high intensity, 1 minute low intensity. choose any form of cardio you like - treadmill and cycle are the most obvious choices. actual cycling and jogging/sprinting is obviously better if you can do it. do it for a total of 15-20 mins 3-4 times a week.
Ralph_Wiggum
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well, speaking for myself personally, I can say the notion which says cardio makes you lose muscle is bullshit. I'm heavy endo, so if I want to lose fat, I can't starve it off or "just decrease calories". There is a limit to how much you can limit calories before you shut the metabolism down or lose needed nourishment.
You have 2 options:
1. do the cardio and get to the desired bodyfat percentage.
2. listen to all the bullshit about x, y, z, loses muscle and be stuck in a body composition limbo because of it.
Work hard and get to where you want to be.. Good luck.
You have 2 options:
1. do the cardio and get to the desired bodyfat percentage.
2. listen to all the bullshit about x, y, z, loses muscle and be stuck in a body composition limbo because of it.
Work hard and get to where you want to be.. Good luck.
deathdroprob
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Once your body gets a bit above 100 degrees (Im not sure how much in Celcious) The Protein in body begins to break down and your obdy literally begins to cook. I would suggest were as little clothing as possible and go for a long walk on a windy day or at night, or better yet do some laps of your local pool.
Longhorn85
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JO_M said:
I concur with most here. If you want to maintain the muscle keep the cardio < 20 min and crank up the intensity. A good workout is 4-6 100m sprints at 90% effort with about 2 min rest in between.
If you're burning more calories than you're taking in, then chances are you might be losing muscle to a certain degree along with the fat / water.
Bikini Mod
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Jogging is catabolic - period. Not to mention very hard on your joints. Unless your goal is to be an endurance athlete (one that competes in marathons, etc) you don't EVER need to run anywhere, that is unless you want to. 
Too much cardio is not only catabolic but will actually put your body into a mode where your resting metabolic rate will actually decline (as you lose muscle) thus causing you to increase the amount/intensity of cardio required to maintain your current bf and the negative downward skinnyfat spiral begins...
Ever seen a fat aerobics/spin instructor? I've seen plenty. If they are doing all those hours of intense cardio a week then you would think they'd all be stick figures. Right?
Fact is that more lean mass = higher resting metabolic rate. Incidentally, the time when your body burns most of its calories from fat is when you are ASLEEP as your body "knows" no food will be coming in during these hours so it taps into it's energy reserves (read = fat). So the more lean mass you have, the more calories your body will burn regardless of the activity.
And guys, just because you may not catabolize muscle as quickly as women that does not mean that our bodies will also behave similarly. You have waaaaaaaaaaay more testosterone than we do. We have a wholelotta estrogen. One builds and supports lean mass, while the other helps the body to store fat in the event of a pregnancy/lactation.
My advice to the poster is to head over to the women's forum where the ladies will be able to better guide you. Not that the guys over here aren't trying their best.
Oh yea - and guys as your test levels decline with age - don't worry, you will be in the same boat.
Too much cardio is not only catabolic but will actually put your body into a mode where your resting metabolic rate will actually decline (as you lose muscle) thus causing you to increase the amount/intensity of cardio required to maintain your current bf and the negative downward skinnyfat spiral begins...
Ever seen a fat aerobics/spin instructor? I've seen plenty. If they are doing all those hours of intense cardio a week then you would think they'd all be stick figures. Right?
Fact is that more lean mass = higher resting metabolic rate. Incidentally, the time when your body burns most of its calories from fat is when you are ASLEEP as your body "knows" no food will be coming in during these hours so it taps into it's energy reserves (read = fat). So the more lean mass you have, the more calories your body will burn regardless of the activity.
And guys, just because you may not catabolize muscle as quickly as women that does not mean that our bodies will also behave similarly. You have waaaaaaaaaaay more testosterone than we do. We have a wholelotta estrogen. One builds and supports lean mass, while the other helps the body to store fat in the event of a pregnancy/lactation.
My advice to the poster is to head over to the women's forum where the ladies will be able to better guide you. Not that the guys over here aren't trying their best.
Oh yea - and guys as your test levels decline with age - don't worry, you will be in the same boat.
Agreed.
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