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Let's Lose This Myth Once And For All!!!

i dont think it's a myth but more of a misunderstanding on the term kicking in...i think when someone says it takes 3 weeks for something to kick in it really means it takes 3 weeks to see noticeable visual gains or to be able to tell visually that it is working
 
Nelson Montana said:
I think on a site that has so many knowledgeable people and where others come for advice, it isn't too much to ask that certain information be accurate.

There are lots of issues where people will disagree, but facts are facts. And this one is the most commonly promulgated.


STEROIDS DO NOT TAKE WEEKS TO "KICK IN"!!!


That is not an opinion. It is not debatable. A fact is fact and this one is for sure. It is provabale. It is indisputable.

Blood levels of testosterone will be increased within hours of injection. You are then in an anabolically enhanced environment. Start making good use of it! Nitrogen retention has begun.

It's at the point where I get the feeling guys don't even train hard for the first few weeks because "the gear hasn't kicked in yet." What a waste. And it's all because of a notion which has been repeated so many times it's become regarded as truth. It isn't .

Of course, you may not see results for a while, but that doesn't mean the stuff isn't working. Personally, I always felt it after a few days.

If test is active for appox 10 days until the half life is essentially inert, what do you think happens to the first shot you take? Does anyone think it doesn't work because it knows you'll be doing other shots for the next 12 weeks? That's ridiculous! What is the reasoning here? I can't blame them though. That's what they've heard and that's what they believed and that's what they've passed on. It's time to let it go though.

Steroids do not "build up" in the system. They come and go. At week one you can have a T level of 2000ngs and at week 6 you can have a T level of 2000ngs. So why do you think week 6 is more productive? If anything, it's LESS productive because your natural T will be lower and your receptors will have downgraded more.

Sure, some guys will swear it doesn't "hit" them for a while. But it's a mistaken perception. Blood tests don't lie.

Prop acts a little faster (actually it's instant) but it's more a matter of being a short acting ester. That doesn't mean it necessarily works quicker, it just doesn't last as long. That has certain advantages, but not one that is applicable to long term use. Oh sure, guys will say how they got great gains form prop. No shit. EVERYTHING works. But there's a mechanism in which it works and isn't necessarily the way one may THINK it works.

The gains you make in week 2 will be the same gains you make in week 8 -- but of course, you've ammassed more gains over time. Get it? That doesn't mean they only came at the end. They've been building up for weeks!

This misinfomation is akin to a site about medicine debating the merits of voodoo. Enough already.

I don't want to make this a debate over short cycles vs long. Short cycles work if implimented correctly but they may not yield the results some people desire. Some guys need more time to build the muscle they want. That's fine. But it isn't because the gear hasn't kicked in for them. IT'S IN!

Now get to work.

I agree with almost everything and good post, however, there is a cumulative affect know as "effective or active dose" based on the half-life of the medication. If one s injecting several times a week there is an overlap and "active dose" can be higher at times, especially with longer acting esters.

Nice job man!
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MTS said:
i dont think it's a myth but more of a misunderstanding on the term kicking in...i think when someone says it takes 3 weeks for something to kick in it really means it takes 3 weeks to see noticeable visual gains or to be able to tell visually that it is working


I don't dispute what Nelson is saying... what I personally mean when saying "kicking in" is when I actually start to FEEL it coursing through me... when I feel the increase in strength and energy and libido.
 
well then if we are talking about FEELING strength then, how long does it take for you to feel winny strength nj? hmm?

pretty quickly right?
 
worldclass said:
You should stick to talking about training. At least there you have some understanding. Steroids do start working right away. HOWEVER, many of the effects of steroids are not apparent until weeks of high level exposure. Also with esterified steroids to reach even peak plasma levels of the drug can take weeks. And the amount of testosterone in your blood in week 1 with enanthate is much lower than the amount of enathate in your blood in week 6.


You should stick to not commenting on what you don't understand.

Why are you being confrontational when you're essentially agreeing with me?

On week two you will have more T in you because the shot from week one will still be in you. But by week 6, the shot from 5 weeks ago will be gone.
 
floridalife said:
well then if we are talking about FEELING strength then, how long does it take for you to feel winny strength nj? hmm?

pretty quickly right?

can't answer that, I've never done winny....

as for "feeling" AAS, I definitely do "feel" it... kinda like a caffiene rush or buzz... that starts happening anywhere from 4-6 weeks into the cycle (with test enth that is)... with prop, usually by 2nd or 3rd week... not sure why it takes that long.

the weird thing about feeling strength, the one time I feel considerable strength from the cycle is right at the end of it, and for 1-2 weeks after... very strange, but it happens to me every time.
 
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