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I am in the midst of actually contemplating if I should use my upcoming cycle of test E at 500mg a week to get shredded or try to put on mass. Spring break is in march so I want to look my absolute best then.

With the advice Newman gave you, I am going to try the same principal with the test and try to get shredded and add muscle as well. With the right diet I think it's possible. You agree?


Absolutely!!!If you sift through this thread a little you will see I mentioned that my friend diets on dball and test and gets shredded, I mean diced..
 
Here is my preworkout regimen: I take Needto's "gear" to combat catabolism while working out. Take my oral steroids sublinqual with creatine with a lot of water, which transports everything to your muscles faster. I take "ribose" because it raises ATP, which is ideal for weight training..I would say, I do this about 45 minutes to an 1hr prior to working out.. I also eat a meal with some kind of protein and complex carbs about 2 hours to 1 hr and 45 minutes prior to working out, and I shoot B-12 about a half-hour after eating because B-12 converts carbohydrates into glucose in the body, which leads to more energy production and decreases fatigue and lethargy while working out. Also, B-12 makes your red blood cells healthier, which is great because RBCs transport oxygen throughout your body (Hemoglobin), which is ideal for muscle growth..

Oh, I forgot! I shoot 200 mgs of Tren preworkout too :)
 
I'm glad you are enjoying the thread. Good catch, I did legs yesterday and forgot to log it. Because all these IF junkies cluttered my thread with their nonsense :)

I do quads and hams together.

Quads:

Squats:

3 sets between 10-15 reps. Weight 225-275. Kept my feet/legs parallel with my delts because it is easier for me to push my knees out (to avoid injury).

Leg press:

3 sets between 10-15 reps. Used a little wider foot stance, so I could concentrate on my upper thighs/hips.

Note* When squatting and doing leg presses if you don't control the weight and feel it on the way coming down you are wasting your time.

Hack Squats:

3 sets between 10-15 reps. I positioned my feet together to work on the sweep. I don't have bad knees, so I can get away with this technique, and it works!

Leg extensions:

3 sets between 10-15 reps. Used light weight to concentrate on my teardrops.

Note* If you do leg ext correctly with the right form and weight you will not damage your knees. I love this isolation movement.. It works wonders if you do them correctly and don't try nothing heroic.


Hamstrings:

4 sets of Romanian Deadlifts/ Stiff leg, between 10-15 reps. Did not really pay attention to the weight. I worried about form and getting a nice pump.

4 sets of machine Hamstring work. Lying curls.10-15 reps.. Controlled the weight and kept concentrating on isolating the ham by not bringing it all the way down..Brought it down enough just to barely release the tension off the muscle then brought it up again.. Kind like a rhythmic motion with constant tension..

Note* I only did 8 sets for hams because you work them doing quads and back.. No need to do more than that..


12 sets for quads and 8 for hams and I was out in 45 minutes pumped like a mofo, that's because I love to double time!

Awesome man sounds really similar to what I am doing. My legs are a genetic weak point and I've even focusing on more reps (12-20) which seems to be working. However I usually separate my leg days just so I can concentrate on each muscle group individually just because they are lacking compared to my upper body

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Awesome man sounds really similar to what I am doing. My legs are a genetic weak point and I've even focusing on more reps (12-20) which seems to be working. However I usually separate my leg days just so I can concentrate on each muscle group individually just because they are lacking compared to my upper body

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Good. That's about the best leg workout out there.. Be careful of what you read, there are some bizarre leg routines out there. You are on the right track.. I don't have any problems getting my legs up. Hence, to please Evan, I suppose I will post up pictures of my quads here in the near future..

Luckily, I have met someone from this site in real life who can attest the pictures I post are really me..
 
I hope everyone had a nice Christmas!

Took yesterday off from training because we all know it was Christmas. Normally, I do arms on Tuesdays and take off Wednesdays but I had to reverse things this week to accommodate other people, which I don't mind doing once a year..

I'm still trying to get my body conditioned to where I think I can insert roids. Not quite there yet, but I will be soon. I weighed in @ 247 this morning, lol.. I think it's safe to say, I ate too much the past couple of days. But that's alright, that's okay, I'm never worried.. I know I will be ready at the moment of truth!!

Still sticking with basic movements. My body still needs to adjust from shock I just gave it from the long layoff. I like to gradually grow. It's called "linear progression," which is the best way to pack on muscle and simultaneously get tight and keep your gains. I'm just pacing myself, no need to rush things, that just leads to problems. People are always in a hurry to reach their goals and do stupid things out of haste, then they end up a casualty. I been back here 2 weeks and already seen it and I foresee it about to happen again and again, which is a shame.

Stayed @ 15 reps for all sets. Did 9 sets for Biceps and Triceps, then exited stage left


Biceps

(3 sets). Standing cable curls. I used the cable this week instead of the barbell.. Just always switching up, no particular reason why I did.. It's what I felt like doing.
(3 sets). Standing one arm cable curls.
(3 sets). Preacher curls with the cable.

Did not keep track of how much weight I used, weight is irrelevant at this juncture. I'm more focused on mechanics and getting the blood flowing for a nice pump. Mission accomplished!

Note* I used all cable exercises this week to isolate my muscles. Kept constant tension on them.. I got a little fatigued, that's a leading indicator my muscles still need more conditioning before I do anything exciting...

Triceps

(3 sets). Close grip bench. Again, weight was irrelevant, so I focused on getting into a nice rhythm, and not locking out, I just kept constant tension on my Triceps.
(3 sets). Skullcrushers. I used a easy curl bar. Instead of bringing the bar to my forehead I brought all the way behind my head for more of a stretch.
(3 sets). Pushdowns. Straight bar instead of the rope. Different movement and more reps..

Note* Did nothing daring, just stuck to isolating my muscles and prepping them for the beating they are about to receive..

Later on...
 
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Blew up my delts.. Again, still trying to condition myself before I bust my move. I did 12 sets and stayed at 12-15 reps. I hit front, side, and rear. I took 1-2 minutes between sets to get my muscles ready for more strenuous work. I'm coming a long just fine, muscle membrane is a beautiful thing. Concentrated on the correct form and isolation movements, and was geared towards just getting the blood flowing. I was in and out of the gym in 40 minutes. Pumped like a mofo!

I'm starting my diet Monday. F*ck New Years Eve! I don't drink, and I probably will not even be awake to watch that silly ball drop. I will be up at 5 to do cardio. It's show time and I am psychologically and physically ready to kick ass and take names. I cut all ties and eliminated all hindrances ; my focus is totally on my training, it has my undivided attention.

Here is a preview of my diet. However, this is a tentative diet ; I always adjust, change, and manipulate things according to how I feel and look. I adjust my diet in 2 month intervals to give my body time to adjust and absorb the food correctly, instead of overloading my system and retaining water and fat (concentrate on absorption and constant nitrogen retention). Every two months I up my protein and carb intake to 10 grams each (by that time my muscles are bigger and need more fuel). I always diet up, and just integrate cardio, T3, diuretics, etc, when needed..

6:00 10 egg whits, quarter cup of oats..

8:30 2 chicken breasts and one baked potato.

11:00 2 pieces of Orange Roughy and some string beans

1:30 10 egg whites and a half cup of oats (preworkout meal).

3:00 workout

4:30 8 oz sirloin and half of cup of brown rice.. PWO meal. Note* last meal of the day when I eat complex carbs.

7:00 Orange roughy and kale salad (contains rubisco).

9:30 10 egg whites again because they are easier to digest..

11:30 casein shake or some cottage cheese..


I'm ready and I'm going to destroy everything that crosses my path!!

Goal: 250-252 @ 4-5% BF by mid July..
 
I spray olive oil on a pan and fry them. I make an omelette: cheese, tomatoes, green onions, spinach, and top it with a little salsa. Try it, it's good...
 
I hit back today. I opted to do all rows (for thickness).

1). T-Bar Rows 4x12-15
2). Machine Rows 4x12-15
3). One-arm Dumbbell Rows 4x12-15
4). Deads 3x12-15

Did not worry about the weight. I'm way beyond falling for that trap. I just used perfect form and worked on targeting my back instead my BIs, which it is prevalant that people use their BIs more than their back when working back. Because they are more worried about going heavy instead of finding the right weight that enables them to isolate their back.

Here is a little preview of my up coming cycle. This is tentative and subject to change according to how I look and feel. There is no set protocol, I go by physiological, psychological, physical, and cosmetical responses from mind and body, that's what dictates whether or not I start to adust, manipulate, and tweak things.

I have access to any drug I want, but I narrowed it down to the following drugs below that I will use. I will do a 20 week cycle.

1). Parabolan
2). Liquid winny
3). NPP
4). Mast
5). EQ
6). Var


I will start off with rather low dosages to let my body adjust and adapt to the drugs. Once, I feel my body has adapted to the hormones I'm using I up the dosages. This "usually" occurs every 6 weeks. It's rather a bad idea to overload your system from the jump because your body will adapt and gains will not be optimal, and you will pan out early. I like the "linear progression" philosophy because that is the best way to put on quality muscle and simultaneously get harder and harder gradually without retaining a lot of water and fat. I try to avoid peaks and valleys and keep my blood levels stable and climb the 'slope' slowly in order to avoid those 'peaks and valleys," that hinder muscle growth, and trigger off weird sides.

I strive for Biology Equilibrium (from a BB point of view): it means that the body is in its optimum environment and that it is functioning as efficently as possible. All the things that an organism needs are being met yet all the things that organism doesn't need are not being met. Consequently, antagonists are being combated, and the roids, sups, and food are being utilized to the max. So a balance is produced meaning that the organism can thrive (from a BB standpoint). Once I feel there is no longer an equilibrium because of adaption, I up my dosages to bring myself to the next level on my personal slope, and repeat it until I feel I maxed out (law of diminishing returns), which will be at the time of my competition. Remember, timing is crucial, I don't want to pan out a week or two ahead of schedule. Timing is everything.

Later on..
 
I hit back today. I opted to do all rows (for thickness).

1). T-Bar Rows 4x12-15
2). Machine Rows 4x12-15
3). One-arm Dumbbell Rows 4x12-15
4). Deads 3x12-15

Did not worry about the weight. I'm way beyond falling for that trap. I just used perfect form and worked on targeting my back instead my BIs, which it is prevalant that people use their BIs more than their back when working back. Because they are more worried about going heavy instead of finding the right weight that enables them to isolate their back.

Here is a little preview of my up coming cycle. This is tentative and subject to change according to how I look and feel. There is no set protocol, I go by physiological, psychological, physical, and cosmetical responses from mind and body, that's what dictates whether or not I start to adust, manipulate, and tweak things.

I have access to any drug I want, but I narrowed it down to the following drugs below that I will use. I will do a 20 week cycle.

1). Parabolan
2). Liquid winny
3). NPP
4). Mast
5). EQ
6). Var


I will start off with rather low dosages to let my body adjust and adapt to the drugs. Once, I feel my body has adapted to the hormones I'm using I up the dosages. This "usually" occurs every 6 weeks. It's rather a bad idea to overload your system from the jump because your body will adapt and gains will not be optimal, and you will pan out early. I like the "linear progression" philosophy because that is the best way to put on quality muscle and simultaneously get harder and harder gradually without retaining a lot of water and fat. I try to avoid peaks and valleys and keep my blood levels stable and climb the 'slope' slowly in order to avoid those 'peaks and valleys," that hinder muscle growth, and trigger off weird sides.

I strive for Biology Equilibrium (from a BB point of view): it means that the body is in its optimum environment and that it is functioning as efficently as possible. All the things that an organism needs are being met yet all the things that organism doesn't need are not being met. Consequently, antagonists are being combated, and the roids, sups, and food are being utilized to the max. So a balance is produced meaning that the organism can thrive (from a BB standpoint). Once I feel there is no longer an equilibrium because of adaption, I up my dosages to bring myself to the next level on my personal slope, and repeat it until I feel I maxed out (law of diminishing returns), which will be at the time of my competition. Remember, timing is crucial, I don't want to pan out a week or two ahead of schedule. Timing is everything.

Later on..

Killin it I see! Thats my man!

So you ramp up? Do you keep it low for 1/4 cyc 1/2???? Or?? Do you come off the same way?

Im a big believer in form. Form is everything imo. Getting that form and flexing during you reps I believe can help difine in a major way.
 
Killin it I see! Thats my man!

So you ramp up? Do you keep it low for 1/4 cyc 1/2???? Or?? Do you come off the same way?

Im a big believer in form. Form is everything imo. Getting that form and flexing during you reps I believe can help difine in a major way.

Yeah, I'm doing a 20 week cycle, so I will bumb my doses every 4-6 weeks and come off at that dose.

Form is everything. With the right form you are concentrating more on isolating the muscle you are working that day and you are transporting blood, oxygen, etc to that muscle, which is ideal for muscle growth and definition..

You on the right track, brotha.

Get some!!
 
Yeah, I'm doing a 20 week cycle, so I will bumb my doses every 4-6 weeks and come off at that dose.

Form is everything. With the right form you are concentrating more on isolating the muscle you are working that day and you are transporting blood, oxygen, etc to that muscle, which is ideal for muscle growth and definition..

You on the right track, brotha.

Get some!!

Am asuming ur doses are purrty sturdy?
 
Am asuming ur doses are purrty sturdy?


Yeah! I foresee it getting out-of-control! F*ck it! I don't pay for juice, so why not take advantage?

Heck, I got 10 kits of HGH that I'm contemplating on using, and I never paid a dime for it. I'm undecided whether or not I want to use the HGH because to get the max benefit from it you have to use it in conjunction with insulin ; insulin is very dangerous, I used to use it when I competed years ago. I used to have to walk around with candy bars in case I would go into sugar shock (hypoglycemia), which is not exactly fun. I remember one time it was like ten degrees outside and it hit me, I started to sweat profusely like I just walked out of a sauna ; I was all dizzy in everything, and I started to panic (luckily I had a Snickers bar on me). I'm not sure if I want to take that kind of risk at this juncture of my life.

Nevertheless, insulin makes you jacked beyond belief, more than tren, test, etc. I will make a decision here in the next week or two whether or not I am going to insert HGH and insulin into my regimen. If I do decide to use HGH and insulin I would come in @ 260 instead of 250, which is quite enticing.
 
I hit back today. I opted to do all rows (for thickness).

1). T-Bar Rows 4x12-15
2). Machine Rows 4x12-15
3). One-arm Dumbbell Rows 4x12-15
4). Deads 3x12-15

Did not worry about the weight. I'm way beyond falling for that trap. I just used perfect form and worked on targeting my back instead my BIs, which it is prevalant that people use their BIs more than their back when working back. Because they are more worried about going heavy instead of finding the right weight that enables them to isolate their back.

Here is a little preview of my up coming cycle. This is tentative and subject to change according to how I look and feel. There is no set protocol, I go by physiological, psychological, physical, and cosmetical responses from mind and body, that's what dictates whether or not I start to adust, manipulate, and tweak things.

I have access to any drug I want, but I narrowed it down to the following drugs below that I will use. I will do a 20 week cycle.

1). Parabolan
2). Liquid winny
3). NPP
4). Mast
5). EQ
6). Var


I will start off with rather low dosages to let my body adjust and adapt to the drugs. Once, I feel my body has adapted to the hormones I'm using I up the dosages. This "usually" occurs every 6 weeks. It's rather a bad idea to overload your system from the jump because your body will adapt and gains will not be optimal, and you will pan out early. I like the "linear progression" philosophy because that is the best way to put on quality muscle and simultaneously get harder and harder gradually without retaining a lot of water and fat. I try to avoid peaks and valleys and keep my blood levels stable and climb the 'slope' slowly in order to avoid those 'peaks and valleys," that hinder muscle growth, and trigger off weird sides.

I strive for Biology Equilibrium (from a BB point of view): it means that the body is in its optimum environment and that it is functioning as efficently as possible. All the things that an organism needs are being met yet all the things that organism doesn't need are not being met. Consequently, antagonists are being combated, and the roids, sups, and food are being utilized to the max. So a balance is produced meaning that the organism can thrive (from a BB standpoint). Once I feel there is no longer an equilibrium because of adaption, I up my dosages to bring myself to the next level on my personal slope, and repeat it until I feel I maxed out (law of diminishing returns), which will be at the time of my competition. Remember, timing is crucial, I don't want to pan out a week or two ahead of schedule. Timing is everything.

Later on..

I'm definitely finding myself coming back to your thread in a daily basis, as the education you're spreading are absolutely pivotal. Keep the thread alive bro.

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Yeah! I foresee it getting out-of-control! F*ck it! I don't pay for juice, so why not take advantage?

Heck, I got 10 kits of HGH that I'm contemplating on using, and I never paid a dime for it. I'm undecided whether or not I want to use the HGH because to get the max benefit from it you have to use it in conjunction with insulin ; insulin is very dangerous, I used to use it when I competed years ago. I used to have to walk around with candy bars in case I would go into sugar shock (hypoglycemia), which is not exactly fun. I remember one time it was like ten degrees outside and it hit me, I started to sweat profusely like I just walked out of a sauna ; I was all dizzy in everything, and I started to panic (luckily I had a Snickers bar on me). I'm not sure if I want to take that kind of risk at this juncture of my life.

Nevertheless, insulin makes you jacked beyond belief, more than tren, test, etc. I will make a decision here in the next week or two whether or not I am going to insert HGH and insulin into my regimen. If I do decide to use HGH and insulin I would come in @ 260 instead of 250, which is quite enticing.

Yea, bro slin I heard is muy muy danger! No homo but I care boutcha wouldnt want anything to happen.

I mean if your goin for Mr O I mean take anything by all means. I kno pro card is big so PROUD of you! But is it worth it this time round? Ur so jacked anyways! Shit Phil, Jay, Ronnie are only like 20lbs heavier than you I believe 20lbs is alot but in ur state few to none have what you have!

Infact there is awsome looking bros on here this is but when you try to touch an unbelieveable look I font think any one come close to what you are rite now.

Ama have to get with you on dosages with my cyc later in Feb. I just had surgery am out dee game for a min. So mad rite now am pacen!
 
Love this thread,everytime I read it I get to learn something new everyday.Keep up the great work guys can't wait to get cracking on my cycle in January.Hope everyone had a bud xmass nd will have a great new Year,growtime...........
 
I'm definitely finding myself coming back to your thread in a daily basis, as the education you're spreading are absolutely pivotal. Keep the thread alive bro.

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Glad to hear this.. Hit me up anytime. I'm gonna try my best to keep this thread alive, bro. Scouts Honor!
 
Love this thread,everytime I read it I get to learn something new everyday.Keep up the great work guys can't wait to get cracking on my cycle in January.Hope everyone had a bud xmass nd will have a great new Year,growtime...........


Glad to hear you are getting something out of this thread.. Let us know how your cycle is going..


Get some!
 
Yea, bro slin I heard is muy muy danger! No homo but I care boutcha wouldnt want anything to happen.

I mean if your goin for Mr O I mean take anything by all means. I kno pro card is big so PROUD of you! But is it worth it this time round? Ur so jacked anyways! Shit Phil, Jay, Ronnie are only like 20lbs heavier than you I believe 20lbs is alot but in ur state few to none have what you have!

Infact there is awsome looking bros on here this is but when you try to touch an unbelieveable look I font think any one come close to what you are rite now.

Ama have to get with you on dosages with my cyc later in Feb. I just had surgery am out dee game for a min. So mad rite now am pacen!


Thanks, bro. I talked to one man today. He said, I probably should hit the growth and slin. I'm still debating on it because of my past experience with slin got me running like a little bitch, but I know to get to that next level I'm going to have to do it. Hence, I'm leaning towards doing it.. So, I guess it's time to man up or man down! I'm quite sure I will man up!

Take care of your injury, bor. Then we will design you a perfect cycle just for you.. Get ready!
 
I would use slin/hgh if i were you. You want to be at the top of the top.. So go for it
 
Looking really good and taking my notes...wanted to walk away and let this train get rolling, and it has!!! Looking up to you Led...although the insulin scares me, and HGH is too spensive for my family budget...sure must be nice to not have to pay for your gear, nice fountain of youth you found! Keep it up bro!

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Love this thread,everytime I read it I get to learn something new everyday.Keep up the great work guys can't wait to get cracking on my cycle in January.Hope everyone had a bud xmass nd will have a great new Year,growtime...........

Tnx, bro same to you and yours!

This is by far and will cont, to be the best thread on EF.
 
Looking really good and taking my notes...wanted to walk away and let this train get rolling, and it has!!! Looking up to you Led...although the insulin scares me, and HGH is too spensive for my family budget...sure must be nice to not have to pay for your gear, nice fountain of youth you found! Keep it up bro!

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Thats what I was sayin! Man MA we got the wrong friends lol

We needs sum sponsorship here. Man tho even if smone gave me free slin idk if I would hv the balls to take it.
 
Thats what I was sayin! Man MA we got the wrong friends lol

We needs sum sponsorship here. Man tho even if smone gave me free slin idk if I would hv the balls to take it.

Too much room for error...I have a little girl that wants daddy around to give her away at her wedding years from now...and I will be one big buffed fucking daddy!!!

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Thanks, bro. I talked to one man today. He said, I probably should hit the growth and slin. I'm still debating on it because of my past experience with slin got me running like a little bitch, but I know to get to that next level I'm going to have to do it. Hence, I'm leaning towards doing it.. So, I guess it's time to man up or man down! I'm quite sure I will man up!

Take care of your injury, bor. Then we will design you a perfect cycle just for you.. Get ready!

Well, then you kno what have to do and if thats what it comes down to do it if ok'd by the kido am sure and I hope he understands.

Am getting ready even tho am injured am preparing its just been slow steps for me but Im ready to take anther step forward. I finely broke down and bought a food scale no way after having one do I think it could be done w/o one.

Eye balling stuff worked for some time but now am stuck at this bf. Holidays got me f'ed also infact the folks just took my daughter and I to Wild Bufflo Wings gonna pay for this bc am out the gym for a while. I had a fast procedure so hopefully I can lift weights in 3 days but cardio maybe 3 weeks.

Im still planing on that cyc we disscussed unless you change that. Ama try to get me some para and npp in the meantime. I just really want to mirror what you are doing although not on such an extreme in the weight category.
 
Too much room for error...I have a little girl that wants daddy around to give her away at her wedding years from now...and I will be one big buffed fucking daddy!!!

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Yea, thats what scares me one wrong move and thats it.

Your already one buffed fn Daddy! What more do you want MA!?

Oh, I kno its never enough.
 
Looking really good and taking my notes...wanted to walk away and let this train get rolling, and it has!!! Looking up to you Led...although the insulin scares me, and HGH is too spensive for my family budget...sure must be nice to not have to pay for your gear, nice fountain of youth you found! Keep it up bro!

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Where have you been, bro? I been wondering about you. This thread is not the same without you. Yeah, slin got me shook up, it's nothing to take lightly. Text me tomorrow about that other thing. I can do something for you, bro. I'm glad you posted..
 
Where have you been, bro? I been wondering about you. This thread is not the same without you. Yeah, slin got me shook up, it's nothing to take lightly. Text me tomorrow about that other thing. I can do something for you, bro. I'm glad you posted..

Hey buddy...yeah just been kind of in my own space if you know what I mean...becoming quite the introvert lol...anyway will text you tomorrow during football...been hitting the gym hard the past few days, two days were double's, trying to achieve goals and sanity. Thanks for the kind words bro...this is your baby, I am honored to be included.

Talk tomorrow...

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Here just to show I am not slacking by any means, well except for my lack of appetite at times, to keep this thread alive with some photos of semi-jacked bros ;)...

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Am going to have the wife take some decent ones tomorrow...these camera phones and lighing suck, but anyway still with you bro, just fighting off the demons in my head!!!
 
Here just to show I am not slacking by any means, well except for my lack of appetite at times, to keep this thread alive with some photos of semi-jacked bros ;)...

1zqd9iu.jpg


10pohnd.jpg


2aaefdc.jpg


Am going to have the wife take some decent ones tomorrow...these camera phones and lighing suck, but anyway still with you bro, just fighting off the demons in my head!!!

Dude!!! Great progress Id say! Looking good bro looking good. I gotta get on it. Just cant yet my surgery is holding me back then the fact I cant cycle rite now either.

Pacen rite now on one leg
 
Here just to show I am not slacking by any means, well except for my lack of appetite at times, to keep this thread alive with some photos of semi-jacked bros ;)...

1zqd9iu.jpg


10pohnd.jpg


2aaefdc.jpg


Am going to have the wife take some decent ones tomorrow...these camera phones and lighing suck, but anyway still with you bro, just fighting off the demons in my head!!!


No way are you slacking. You look like you got tighter. Good job. Like I said in the one post, winning the psychological battle is very important.

I hate taking pictures of myself, and I hate taking pictures, period. Hence, I'm going to make a little YouTube video of myself destroying my delts, back, etc. Sometime in January. Whatever people want to see me train. Probably 60-90 second video.. Videos tell all. Therefore, everyone can see how "pretty" I am too :)

You look awesome, bor.. Text me today..
 
Well, then you kno what have to do and if thats what it comes down to do it if ok'd by the kido am sure and I hope he understands.

Am getting ready even tho am injured am preparing its just been slow steps for me but Im ready to take anther step forward. I finely broke down and bought a food scale no way after having one do I think it could be done w/o one.

Eye balling stuff worked for some time but now am stuck at this bf. Holidays got me f'ed also infact the folks just took my daughter and I to Wild Bufflo Wings gonna pay for this bc am out the gym for a while. I had a fast procedure so hopefully I can lift weights in 3 days but cardio maybe 3 weeks.

Im still planing on that cyc we disscussed unless you change that. Ama try to get me some para and npp in the meantime. I just really want to mirror what you are doing although not on such an extreme in the weight category.


Sounds good. When you take NPP in conjunction with Para shit starts popping out! Nice combo. You will get it together, just don't rush things. Give your body time to heal. Then start wrecking everything in sight.. Ah! Ha!
 
Here just to show I am not slacking by any means, well except for my lack of appetite at times, to keep this thread alive with some photos of semi-jacked bros ;)...

1zqd9iu.jpg


10pohnd.jpg


2aaefdc.jpg


Am going to have the wife take some decent ones tomorrow...these camera phones and lighing suck, but anyway still with you bro, just fighting off the demons in my head!!!

Looking good bro!

Thanks to you and everyone else in this thread. This is THE thread to watch. I check it several times daily. Can't wait to continue to follow the cycles (and pct protocols), the nutrition, and the bad ass training.

I have no desire to compete, but the knowledge and experience in this thread are priceless for my goals as well.

Thanks again my friends
 
Amazing thread. Just wanted to offer a big congrats for one of EF's own.


Thanks Nelson! I appreciate and value your feedback. These comments are coming from a guy who was a competitive BB ; wrote books on BB ; wrote for a BB magazine, and designs Sups. Nuff said!


Yay for EF!!
 
Thanks Nelson! I appreciate and value your feedback. These comments are coming from a guy who was a competitive BB ; wrote books on BB ; wrote for a BB magazine, and designs Sups. Nuff said!


Yay for EF!!

Agreed...much respect and admiration for Nelson, whom I also soak up his extensive knowledge and suggestions in every thread I read of his.
 
Here just to show I am not slacking by any means, well except for my lack of appetite at times, to keep this thread alive with some photos of semi-jacked bros ;)...

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Am going to have the wife take some decent ones tomorrow...these camera phones and lighing suck, but anyway still with you bro, just fighting off the demons in my head!!!

Im admiring that forearm in the first pic.. Damn dude
 
Im admiring that forearm in the first pic.. Damn dude

Lol...thanks bro! I don't even really train forearms either, that is just from grip strength doing compound lifts. There is a great Hammer Strength Gripper machine at Powerhouse Gym where I train that I will load plates onto and grip the fuck out of it inbetween sets of biceps or triceps...but other than that I guess I am blessed with some decent forearms!!!

Keep up the hard work Evan...you are looking phenomenal bro!!!
 
This thread is an inspiration to us newbs,everytime I read it I can't wait to hit the gym.The positivity from u guys is great nd makes u welcome.Everyone is treated with respect nd given great advice.Keep up the great work guys ye rock.If I need advice I know where to come cheers.
 
Here just to show I am not slacking by any means, well except for my lack of appetite at times, to keep this thread alive with some photos of semi-jacked bros ;)...

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Am going to have the wife take some decent ones tomorrow...these camera phones and lighing suck, but anyway still with you bro, just fighting off the demons in my head!!!

Damm muscleaddiction your arms and delts look so good I won't even make fun of the tap out shirt ;) But seriously awesome work.
 
Damm muscleaddiction your arms and delts look so good I won't even make fun of the tap out shirt ;) But seriously awesome work.

Ok brat...what is wrong with my Tapout shirt? I was watching the fight last night which is why I was sporting it...and I appreciate the kind words ;). You are too super cute lol!!!

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Hit quads today.. Sticking with high reps.. Weight really unimportant. Form, mechanics, and isolation was my focus.

Squats: 3x15 focused on controlling the weight and coming down sort of slow so I could feel the weight hitting my quads. If you don't feel it on the way down you are not doing the exercise correctly. Anyone can do half squats and bounce and then explode. But they are hurting nobody but themselves. I had sort of a narrow stance, to make sure my knees would move outward to avoid a injury..

Leg press: 3x15 got into a nice rhythm where I would bring the weight down kind of slow and back up without locking out and simultaneously controlling the weight and keeping constant tension on my quads. I used a wider foot stance, so I could isolate my upper thighs and hips..

Hack squat: 3x15 Feet together to isolate the outer thigh (sweep).. Nice and slow movement to make sure the sweep was being isolated.

Leg press: 2x20 feet on top of the press almost together, maybe an inch or two apart. No locking out. Just came down 3/4 of the way and back up in nice rhythm. This exercise might seem unconventional but it developes a nice sweep.. A friend of mine turned me on to this exercise years ago. It's a great finisher and does wonders for the sweep, which all us amateurs lack..

Leg ext. 3x10 I lock out on these and come half way down to keep constant tension on my teardrops..

Hams. (stiff leg) I did one exercise for 7 sets and stayed at 15 reps. I felt like I got into a nice groove, so I did not want to disrupt my zone by changing exercises.. Just keep on listening to my body, and going by my instincts.. No set protocol just going by how I feel and what is working for me at that time..

Everything is going good in Ledhead's world so far. I'm going to make a YouTube video here in the next month or so, 60-90 second video of me utterly destroying the gym!

Goal: 250-252 harder than a nail..
 
Your 20' guns look delicious :)

LMAO...they are not on the menu! I had one of your favorite veggies tonight, Coastal Kale Salad...if you are a good boy and keep killing the weights like you are I might give you the recipe ;).

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LMAO...they are not on the menu! I had one of your favorite veggies tonight, Coastal Kale Salad...if you are a good boy and keep killing the weights like you are I might give you the recipe ;).

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Lol. I was being sarcastic, I was trying to get people to post up pictures, and of course nobody did..

I been behaving myself.. I opened a door for an old lady today. Not too sure about killing the weights quite yet, but I will, that's guaranteed..
 
Lol. I was being sarcastic, I was trying to get people to post up pictures, and of course nobody did..

I been behaving myself.. I opened a door for an old lady today. Not too sure about killing the weights quite yet, but I will, that's guaranteed..

I know...just my strange sense of humor, I will get you the recipe...it will be a staple dish in your diet...all healthy ingredients and goes well with grilled chicken, turkey, tuna, or even Orange Roughy!

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Ledhead, I'm new and just soaking up the knowledge from experienced bros.
What's your take and what are you going to do for pct? There are so many contrasting views on EF.
 
Ledhead, I'm new and just soaking up the knowledge from experienced bros.
What's your take and what are you going to do for pct? There are so many contrasting views on EF.


I personally think there is too much of an emphasis put on PCT. Through my experiences the body is always striving to reach "homeostasis." However, I do believe a PCT is needed to a degree according to how long one cycled and what drugs that person used. I'm personally undecided what I will do for PCT, I will cross that bridge when I get there. I know one thing is for sure it will probably seem unorthodox and be a stark contrast to the PCTs that are recommended on this site.


I really don't pay attention to what PCTs are being recommended by people on this site. But I will venture to say that the reason there are so many contrasting views is because some people found out what works for them and they feel they found some revolutionary PCT, which is absurd. That is why I am constantly stressing that people should find out what works for them through trial and error. I never give people any real advice ; I just give suggestions, and hope that my suggestions helped them.


Now, if you want to be specific about what you are using or what you are contemplating on using and length of your cycle. Feel free to PM me, and I will "suggest" what I think what will work for you.
 
Ok brat...what is wrong with my Tapout shirt? I was watching the fight last night which is why I was sporting it...and I appreciate the kind words ;). You are too super cute lol!!!

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LOL Tapout is so 2000 and 8 ;) but I wont hate cause clearly your working your ass off to look like you do I can let a fashion faux pas pass.

Dinner looks good nom nom nom. :RADAR

Happy NYE to all the fine folks up in this thread!
 
LOL Tapout is so 2000 and 8 ;) but I wont hate cause clearly your working your ass off to look like you do I can let a fashion faux pas pass.

Dinner looks good nom nom nom. :RADAR

Happy NYE to all the fine folks up in this thread!

Yeah I guess you are right...it is so yesterday lol! Thanks for letting me slide with my fashion faux pas, and yes been working my ass off for sure, just got back from the gym trained legs mostly emphasis on quads, but will continue my quest for 1st place at my competition this coming year...have a wonderful healthy ans safe New Years and see you back here in 2013!!!

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Blew up my delts.. Again, still trying to condition myself before I bust my move. I did 12 sets and stayed at 12-15 reps. I hit front, side, and rear. I took 1-2 minutes between sets to get my muscles ready for more strenuous work. I'm coming a long just fine, muscle membrane is a beautiful thing. Concentrated on the correct form and isolation movements, and was geared towards just getting the blood flowing. I was in and out of the gym in 40 minutes. Pumped like a mofo!

I'm starting my diet Monday. F*ck New Years Eve! I don't drink, and I probably will not even be awake to watch that silly ball drop. I will be up at 5 to do cardio. It's show time and I am psychologically and physically ready to kick ass and take names. I cut all ties and eliminated all hindrances ; my focus is totally on my training, it has my undivided attention.

Here is a preview of my diet. However, this is a tentative diet ; I always adjust, change, and manipulate things according to how I feel and look. I adjust my diet in 2 month intervals to give my body time to adjust and absorb the food correctly, instead of overloading my system and retaining water and fat (concentrate on absorption and constant nitrogen retention). Every two months I up my protein and carb intake to 10 grams each (by that time my muscles are bigger and need more fuel). I always diet up, and just integrate cardio, T3, diuretics, etc, when needed..

6:00 10 egg whits, quarter cup of oats..

8:30 2 chicken breasts and one baked potato.

11:00 2 pieces of Orange Roughy and some string beans

1:30 10 egg whites and a half cup of oats (preworkout meal).

3:00 workout

4:30 8 oz sirloin and half of cup of brown rice.. PWO meal. Note* last meal of the day when I eat complex carbs.

7:00 Orange roughy and kale salad (contains rubisco).

9:30 10 egg whites again because they are easier to digest..

11:30 casein shake or some cottage cheese..


I'm ready and I'm going to destroy everything that crosses my path!!

Goal: 250-252 @ 4-5% BF by mid July..

Doesn't look like you get anysleep. You wake up and eat immediately?
 
Led at what age did you start taking steroids


I think 23. Used AAS until my late twenties then stopped for personal reasons for about 8-9 years ; then I started back up again 4 years ago because I have the desire to compete again. Here is my philosophy on steroid use. There is no reason why people should use roids unless they compete or are contemplating on competing, or they need to take roids because they are engaging in something related to fitness that has a reward.

People can get big, hard, and develope a decent physique without roids. It is totally beyond me why people use steroids just to walk around their hometown looking jacked or trying to look jacked. I don't understand why people would jeopardize their health, and spend their money on roids without any "real" reward to be had ; when they can make nice gains with sups and eating right.

Anyone with any real experience with using roids and competing knows that you pay a huge price to look 'real good' for only maybe a week or two.. Not worth it unless there are rewards to be had! Just my opinion...
 
I did cardio on an empty stomach or fasted cardio, whatever your phraseology is this morning. For about 30 minutes at a moderate pace. When doing cardio you should not be out of breath because that is a leading indicator you might be burning tissue. When doing cardio you should be able to hold a conversation with someone without being out of breath.

Second, cardio is crucial to building muscle, that is contrary to what a lot people think. People think you should only do cardio when cutting, that is complete nonsense. In order to build muscle, your body must have an excess amount of energy to build muscle. Cardio provides that energy your muscle need to grow. However, you should know your limits to how much cardio is suffice, so no muscle is sacrificed. It is a juggling act, you want to dip into your fat storages and simultaneously not burn muscle, and supply your muscles with enough energy to grow. Now, that takes time to get down pat through trial and error.

This evening I hit chest.. Did 12 sets, then hit the road. I examined my chest prior to going to the gym to see what part was/is lacking the most. It appears, I'm lacking in the "upper chest" area. Hence, I did all incline movements for my chest, I just altered the angles. Again, weight unimportant, isolating the muscle was my objective and doing high reps to get a nice pump.

Barbell Incline Press: 4x15. I used a rather steep angle and brought the bar down to where it barely missed my chin to hit the upper most part of my chest.

Dumbbell Incline Press: 4x15. Lowered the angle to a middle incline to hit a different part of my upper chest.

Dumbbell Incline Press: 4x15. Lowered the angle to where it was about 6 inches from being a flat bench. This time I changed my grip to where the dumbbells looked vertical instead of horizontal.

Again, no set protocol; just going with how I feel and look, and listening to my body. I just simply concentrated on isolating my muscles and conditioning them correctly. Took 1-2 minutes between sets for conditioning purposes and I was out in 35-40 minutes.

I'm motivated!
 
Am just curious about fasted cardio. Is it really more effective for fat burning? I mean as soon as youve burnt up all your fat as energy your bumping muscle next?

This has been such a big debate in the past.
 
Am just curious about fasted cardio. Is it really more effective for fat burning? I mean as soon as youve burnt up all your fat as energy your bumping muscle next?

This has been such a big debate in the past.


Through my experiences fasted cardio has worked for me better than any other kind of cardio. You are right, it is a highly debated topic; some people say take a protein shake then go do cardio, some say fasted is the way to go. I say, find out what works for you because we all respond differently to certain things..

Like I said, it is a juggling act that you have to figure out through trial and error. It is not cut and dry.
 
Through my experiences fasted cardio has worked for me better than any other kind of cardio. You are right, it is a highly debated topic; some people say take a protein shake then go do cardio, some say fasted is the way to go. I say, find out what works for you because we all respond differently to certain things..

Like I said, it is a juggling act that you have to figure out through trial and error. It is not cut and dry.

Yea, my thoughts exact. All my buddies that compete do fasted cardio during prep tho so it ponders me. But you know at that point in stadge their tryin to make weight...

Ill have to try it I just hate mornings! The only time I wake up early is football season.
 
Hey led just dropping in things are looking good in here. Thx for the meal plan too and explanation on cardio!!


Yeah, so far so good with the thread. I'm glad you dropped in, and I'm glad I could help a little with the cardio and diet stuff..
 
Happy New Yearz brothers and sisters of EF! Hope you all had a wonderful evening last night and are not nursing too bad of a hangover. I do not drink, I did not stay up for midnight, my wife set the alarm on her phone and kissed me at midnight, but I was out. We woke up this morning at 6 am and hit the gym first thing for arms/abs/cardio, was home by 8 am, and just ate a nice healthy breakfast watching Mississippi State vs. N. Western and relaxing. I would hope that most of you would have had a morning like mine, and start the New Year off right working towards your goals!

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I did MA! Got up early and hit legs at the gym.. Been munching on food ever since
 
Happy New Yearz brothers and sisters of EF! Hope you all had a wonderful evening last night and are not nursing too bad of a hangover. I do not drink, I did not stay up for midnight, my wife set the alarm on her phone and kissed me at midnight, but I was out. We woke up this morning at 6 am and hit the gym first thing for arms/abs/cardio, was home by 8 am, and just ate a nice healthy breakfast watching Mississippi State vs. N. Western and relaxing. I would hope that most of you would have had a morning like mine, and start the New Year off right working towards your goals!

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I dont drink either. If I do its so very seldom. I just cant anymore 1/4 beer and I feel different. Man back in the day I use to get so hammered cant imagine. My alcohol turned into coffee! Well teh weight of course too but.... Although I did hv about 6oz of wine last nite.

I stayed up past midnight with family my girl is from Mexico BIG family so I have no choice really its fun tho but out here in Cali dem foo's be shootin! Not coo man not coo. What ever happen to illeagal fireworks? Lol

Wish I could get in the gym my foot is feeling better but still sore as all hell. Maybe I should had took the norco but Im anti scipt medicine. Ill only take it if I really really have too. But Ill take all teh AAS lol no script meds but gv me some AAS or otc supps and am game does that make Rev a hipacrit? Lol
 
I dont drink either. If I do its so very seldom. I just cant anymore 1/4 beer and I feel different. Man back in the day I use to get so hammered cant imagine. My alcohol turned into coffee! Well teh weight of course too but.... Although I did hv about 6oz of wine last nite.

I stayed up past midnight with family my girl is from Mexico BIG family so I have no choice really its fun tho but out here in Cali dem foo's be shootin! Not coo man not coo. What ever happen to illeagal fireworks? Lol

Wish I could get in the gym my foot is feeling better but still sore as all hell. Maybe I should had took the norco but Im anti scipt medicine. Ill only take it if I really really have too. But Ill take all teh AAS lol no script meds but gv me some AAS or otc supps and am game does that make Rev a hipacrit? Lol

Sure doesn't bro...Happy New Year RR, get that paw healed and lets see some changes in 2013, going to be balls to the wall starting yesterday and the gold in my reach! This is all of our year, lets make the most of it, make the changes needed for progression, lets go boys and girls...I want to see this thread stay active and alive until 2014...I want to see progress pics from all of you in this thread following, Leds knowledge is pretty extensive and with the suggestions given already there is plenty to try and change up in your current program, get uncomfortable, chase the pain, embrace it, love it!!! It all leads to your goals, it leads to your gains, it leads to the best physique you can achieve!

Lets fucking do this people!!! I want to see progress pics, I want to see all of you working your asses off this year, just like I tell the participants on my Sheriff Work Furlough crews when I supervise them on a project...if I am the only one sweating we have a problem!!!


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Did cardio again this morning for about 30 minutes @ a moderate pace. Not trying to be a hero nor am I trying to be slothful. Just doing enough to get my body in that "excited" state just to elevate my energy levels enough to dip into that stored "potential energy." This enables my circulatory and respiratory systems to increase the supply of oxygen and blood to my muscles, which is ideal for building muscle. Using the potential energy in your body spares muscle tissue. Again, that takes time to get down pat through trial and error. It took me a long time to "know" my body. No such thing as instant gratification at this game unless you don't mind doing shoddy work, which of course will reflect on your physique.

Hydration: I upped my water intake, for now I will strive for 1 gallon of water a day, then gradually take in more. Water transports molecules and cells throughout the body. Water is a major component of blood, which carries oxygen and nutrients to muscle tissue and is responsible for maintaining cells in working order; exactly what we want to pack on quality muscle. Therefore, drink, drink, drink, and drink some more!

Diet: is dialed in. starting at 6 meals a day, then will gradually go to 7 and then maybe 8 a day, depending how I look and feel. Remember, I said, my original diet was "tentative," so I feel 6 meals a day is suffice right now in order to get my body adjusted to this shock. Once, I feel my body has adapted I will insert another meal, and repeat it again; I will not eat more than 8 meals a day. I eat 'complete and incomplete' protein to give my body a variety so it will not get used to one type of protein (i love mixing things up). I stick to complex carbs because they are broken down slower than simple carbs; I avoid simple carbs because I don't want any insulin spikes because that makes you more susceptible to storing fat.. Now, this is my philosophy, and it works for me. I'm not trying pin my thing on anyone..

Trained arms today: Concentrated on my "muscular endurance," which is conditioning them with high reps and adding forced reps, so in the near future I will be able to blast my muscles without them fatiguing. I stay far away from (1 RM), it's worthless for bodybuilders. I can bench press 500 lb, military 350, and dead 600 for 1-2 reps anytime I want, but I can careless about trying to impress people ; that method of training is detrimental to a BB. True story. I saw a guy one time military press (front) over 400 lbs for a triple; his form was exact, strict, and perfect. His problem was he weighed about 320 @ 30-40% BF. I rather look like I can military 4 bills than actually do it and look like a bloated fish! Nuff said!

BIs:

4x15 standing barbell curls
4x15 Preacher curls

TRIs

4x15 close grip bench
4x15 pull downs with the rope.

Note* I did 8 sets for BIs and TRIs and only did two exercises for each body part. Again, no set protocol; just going by how I feel; and concentrating on isolating the muscle and getting a nice pump, and avoiding overtraining..

Glad the holidays are over. No post-holiday blues here. 2013 is all mine!!
 
Sure doesn't bro...Happy New Year RR, get that paw healed and lets see some changes in 2013, going to be balls to the wall starting yesterday and the gold in my reach! This is all of our year, lets make the most of it, make the changes needed for progression, lets go boys and girls...I want to see this thread stay active and alive until 2014...I want to see progress pics from all of you in this thread following, Leds knowledge is pretty extensive and with the suggestions given already there is plenty to try and change up in your current program, get uncomfortable, chase the pain, embrace it, love it!!! It all leads to your goals, it leads to your gains, it leads to the best physique you can achieve!

Lets fucking do this people!!! I want to see progress pics, I want to see all of you working your asses off this year, just like I tell the participants on my Sheriff Work Furlough crews when I supervise them on a project...if I am the only one sweating we have a problem!!!


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Excellent post!!!
 
Lol. It's like crack, one hit and you are hooked. This guy inspired me. Perfect physique.. I hope the link works..


Dennis Newman Posing 1994 USA - YouTube

Dennis Newman was a perfect example of old school meets new school without the distended stomachs and 30 IU of slin and 20-30 IU of HGH a day. I wish looking like Newman used to look was the goal of today's BBing.

On a side note I have heard though that he was a royal douche bag.
 
Dennis Newman was a perfect example of old school meets new school without the distended stomachs and 30 IU of slin and 20-30 IU of HGH a day. I wish looking like Newman used to look was the goal of today's BBing.

On a side note I have heard though that he was a royal douche bag.



can i what about love?
bro is ridiculous for 23 holy fuk
 
From what I have researched, 125-200mg is the typical TRT/HRT dose EW, anything above is basically considered a low dose cycle...but don't quote me, I'm sure others will chime in here. I plan on a 10 week cruise up to April 1st like I said before I blast again for my precontest cycle...which will be fun :D. It has been 5 years since I have ran any real AAS cycles, so my receptors were clean and fresh, and my body has responded beautifully...and it is going to get better in the next 7 months up to my competition(s)...we will see how the first one goes, then will determine my next move. I am going balls to the wall, it is my time to shine, it is time for this guy to chase my dreams and goals and see what I have to make the most of my bodybuilding lifestyle, and I have the love and support of my friends and family behind me 100%...so I can't let them or myself down, 42 years young, and have the desire for excellence in myself...which is why I am looking to bros at a level above me to help me get to where I want to be.

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I know I'm pulling this from wayyy back in this thread but I had to comment.
Bro, the cruise dose depends on what you want out if it. If your looking to cruise and retain as much mass as possible then yes, 200-250 wk is what your after.
If you want to cruise at a dose that gets you back in "normal" range somewhere around 900-100ng/dl to let your system normalize then your going to want to shoot for 100-125mg wk. The best way for future reference is to get bloods done. My cruise ended up way longer than planned for a few reasons but the 150mg wk I was cruising on should have been keeping me around 1000-1200 ng/dl. But it was heavily dosed. So come to find out after bloods I was at 2450 ng/dl. I wish I had done bloods a lot sooner so I could have adjusted it.
 
hey guys hope everyone has a great new year,and grows like hell.Wud it b possible to post up my cycle and have it critiqued by the best thanx.
 
hey guys hope everyone has a great new year,and grows like hell.Wud it b possible to post up my cycle and have it critiqued by the best thanx.

Maybe pm ledhead and ask. His thread.

I dont see y he would have a problem to post it up on here but if it was me outta respect Id jus pm.
 
Thanx mate didn't want to b disrespectful nd post it up,said I'd ask first,I posted it on my own thread guyswud like to get a bit more advice from u guys.Will pm him now thanx mate
 
I am sure it's probably a good thing but it just annoys me post cardio once I have showered, ate breakfast and getting ready for work I find that is when I start to sweat the most. Guessing it's just my metabolism kicking in?
 
Thanx for letting me post up my cycle ledhead much appreciated.
My cycle as follows,
Weeks 1-12 test cyp 250 x 2 (mon-thur)
Weeks 3-12 hcg 250 iu x 2 day before pinning test.
Armidex .5 mg eod.
PCT
Clomid 25/25/25/25
phytoserms 347
Unleashed/pct
Daa
will be running n2 guard throughout the cycle nd into pct.Still undecided to run dbol for the first four weeks have enough to run it at 20 mg thisw.ud like advice on this.
Theaim of this cycle is to gain as much mass as possible.Have done two Ph cycles in the past and had gud results with a clean diet nd proper pct.Have my diet dialled in nd have cut my weight down to 83.5 kgs from 87 kgs and my bodyfat is now down from 15% to 12% in preparation for this cycle.Will appreciate all advice and hopefully haven't left anything out of the above cycle.Thanx.
 
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Oh forgot my stats.
Age 35
Weight 83.5 kgs
BF 12%
have been training for strenght and endurance for the last 17 years as I played a lot of soccer and always had to watch my weight so it wudnt effect my endurance.
 
I am sure it's probably a good thing but it just annoys me post cardio once I have showered, ate breakfast and getting ready for work I find that is when I start to sweat the most. Guessing it's just my metabolism kicking in?[/quot

Your body temperature varies throughout the day, going from around 97 degrees in the early morning to about 99 degrees in the early evening. Exercise raises body temperature considerably. When you exercise, more than 70 percent of the energy that powers your muscles is lost as heat. Less than 30 percent drives your muscles. Athletic competition can drive temperatures as high as 105 degrees without harming the athletes.

To keep your body temperature from rising too high, your heart pumps large amounts of heat in the blood from your hot muscles to your skin and you sweat. The sweat evaporates and cools your body. The amount of sweat that your body produces depends on the temperature of the blood that flows through your brain. When the temperature of the blood rises, you sweat more. During exercise, your heart beats rapidly to pump blood to bring oxygen to your muscles and to pump the hot blood from the muscles to the skin where the heat can be dissipated. When you stop exercising, your heart slows down also, pumping less blood to the skin. The heat accumulates in your muscles, causing blood temperature to rise higher, so you sweat more right after you finish exercising than during exercise (Dr. Mirkin).

Oh, by-the-way, you keep forgetting to post up pictures. Get with the program, sister :)

 
Thanx for letting me post up my cycle ledhead much appreciated.
My cycle as follows,
Weeks 1-12 test cyp 250 x 2 (mon-thur)
Weeks 3-12 hcg 250 iu x 2 day before pinning test.
Armidex .5 mg eod.
PCT
Clomid 25/25/25/25
phytoserms 347
Unleashed/pct
Daa
will be running n2 guard throughout the cycle nd into pct.Still undecided to run dbol for the first four weeks have enough to run it at 20 mg thisw.ud like advice on this.
Theaim of this cycle is to gain as much mass as possible.Have done two Ph cycles in the past and had gud results with a clean diet nd proper pct.Have my diet dialled in nd have cut my weight down to 83.5 kgs from 87 kgs and my bodyfat is now down from 15% to 12% in preparation for this cycle.Will appreciate all advice and hopefully haven't left anything out of the above cycle.Thanx.

I personally hate fixing people's cycles and I personally can't take people who are anxious to fix people's cycles. But, considering you asked I will give you my opinion, and please don't get offended if I say some off the wall stuff..


This looks just like a typical steroid board beginners cycle and PCT.

1). Test Dosage = Good

2). HCG Dosage = Good

3). Dex Dosage = Good. Although, I personally don't integrate an AI until I think it's necessary, and sometimes I never do..

4). As for adding the Dball, I say save it for a rainy day. I don't believe in running orals at the beginning of a cycle. Imo, that "kick start" philosophy is more of a psychological benefit than a biological one.

5), Clomid Dosage = Typical, but I would do 50/50/25/25, maybe drop week 4 depending on how you feel..

As for unleashed, N2guard, daa, and phytoserms I know absolutely nothing about. If you read through my thread I mentioned I do a "unconventional" PCT, which I'm not going to disclose until that time comes.

If any of these PCT experts want to chime in and comment about your PCT that's fine with me..

I hope this helped??
 
Dennis Newman was a perfect example of old school meets new school without the distended stomachs and 30 IU of slin and 20-30 IU of HGH a day. I wish looking like Newman used to look was the goal of today's BBing.

On a side note I have heard though that he was a royal douche bag.


Exactly. I love the way his physique was in 1994. The perfect physique as far as I'm concerned. I mentioned it quite a few times. I met Newman when he guest posed at the Mr. Ohio right after he won the Nationals.

I talked to him for about 10-15 minutes; he didn't seem like a total douchebag, however, he was one arrogant mother. From what I recall from our convo he seemed a little outlandish. He asserted himself without hesitation from Jump St. about using roids, which I found odd because they usually don't mention what they take, or give advice about roids. Lol, I will never forget what he told my friends and I as long as I live. He said, "take anything and everything you can get your hands on, and don't believe there are certain drugs for bulking or cutting, just take everything." lololololo..

That story is as true as God is true.What a character! Too bad he ended up with leukemia: I definitely thought he would have won 2-3 Olympias. For sure!
 
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From what I have researched, 125-200mg is the typical TRT/HRT dose EW, anything above is basically considered a low dose cycle...but don't quote me, I'm sure others will chime in here. I plan on a 10 week cruise up to April 1st like I said before I blast again for my precontest cycle...which will be fun :D. It has been 5 years since I have ran any real AAS cycles, so my receptors were clean and fresh, and my body has responded beautifully...and it is going to get better in the next 7 months up to my competition(s)...we will see how the first one goes, then will determine my next move. I am going balls to the wall, it is my time to shine, it is time for this guy to chase my dreams and goals and see what I have to make the most of my bodybuilding lifestyle, and I have the love and support of my friends and family behind me 100%...so I can't let them or myself down, 42 years young, and have the desire for excellence in myself...which is why I am looking to bros at a level above me to help me get to where I want to be.

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I know I'm pulling this from wayyy back in this thread but I had to comment.
Bro, the cruise dose depends on what you want out if it. If your looking to cruise and retain as much mass as possible then yes, 200-250 wk is what your after.
If you want to cruise at a dose that gets you back in "normal" range somewhere around 900-100ng/dl to let your system normalize then your going to want to shoot for 100-125mg wk. The best way for future reference is to get bloods done. My cruise ended up way longer than planned for a few reasons but the 150mg wk I was cruising on should have been keeping me around 1000-1200 ng/dl. But it was heavily dosed. So come to find out after bloods I was at 2450 ng/dl. I wish I had done bloods a lot sooner so I could have adjusted it.

Thanks BTC...I did and will be having bloods done again soon, but appreciate your knowledge and hands on experience. I plan on running 250mg for 10 weeks going into my precontest cycle, so that should be sufficient for my needs which yes is to retain what I have from this cycle and to keep progressing as well.


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I am sure it's probably a good thing but it just annoys me post cardio once I have showered, ate breakfast and getting ready for work I find that is when I start to sweat the most. Guessing it's just my metabolism kicking in?

Same happens to me...even after weight training.

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Thanks BTC...I did and will be having bloods done again soon, but appreciate your knowledge and hands on experience. I plan on running 250mg for 10 weeks going into my precontest cycle, so that should be sufficient for my needs which yes is to retain what I have from this cycle and to keep progressing as well.


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Going into a contest yes your going to want to preserve as much mass as possible. My situation sucked because my levels should have been all normal thus everything else being normal. SO once I did the bloods I realized my LDL, Bilerubin and RBC had been high for a very extended period. Which fucked up my blast that was going to start this month. I could have done it but having High RBC for an extended period is obviously not good long term heart wise. So now I'm not blasting til june. When I start to feel the effects of higher RBC and thicker blood its definatley time to let things normalize for real. Which they have been going on a month now.
But you know no matter what level your at or why you do it bloods are always smart. I remember Joe D used to get bloods done weekly. (different situation obviously)
 
Your body temperature varies throughout the day, going from around 97 degrees in the early morning to about 99 degrees in the early evening. Exercise raises body temperature considerably. When you exercise, more than 70 percent of the energy that powers your muscles is lost as heat. Less than 30 percent drives your muscles. Athletic competition can drive temperatures as high as 105 degrees without harming the athletes.

To keep your body temperature from rising too high, your heart pumps large amounts of heat in the blood from your hot muscles to your skin and you sweat. The sweat evaporates and cools your body. The amount of sweat that your body produces depends on the temperature of the blood that flows through your brain. When the temperature of the blood rises, you sweat more. During exercise, your heart beats rapidly to pump blood to bring oxygen to your muscles and to pump the hot blood from the muscles to the skin where the heat can be dissipated. When you stop exercising, your heart slows down also, pumping less blood to the skin. The heat accumulates in your muscles, causing blood temperature to rise higher, so you sweat more right after you finish exercising than during exercise (Dr. Mirkin).

Oh, by-the-way, you keep forgetting to post up pictures. Get with the program, sister :)


Thanks I figured there was good reason just didn't know what it was. Give it time I will post some pics when I feel like less of a beached whale. :)

@ muscleaddiction yeah it happens after I lift to but I really don't care then cause I am at home eating dinner and chillaxin. It's when I am in a rush in the mornings that it annoys me. It's already a struggle to get up at quarter to 6 dunno if I could add some extra sweating time in there.
 
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Going into a contest yes your going to want to preserve as much mass as possible. My situation sucked because my levels should have been all normal thus everything else being normal. SO once I did the bloods I realized my LDL, Bilerubin and RBC had been high for a very extended period. Which fucked up my blast that was going to start this month. I could have done it but having High RBC for an extended period is obviously not good long term heart wise. So now I'm not blasting til june. When I start to feel the effects of higher RBC and thicker blood its definatley time to let things normalize for real. Which they have been going on a month now.
But you know no matter what level your at or why you do it bloods are always smart. I remember Joe D used to get bloods done weekly. (different situation obviously)

Thanks buddy...I really appreciate your input, prior to this cycle I have been clean for 5 years so time to step it up...being safe and healthy about it of course...and go for my goals now. As you know being a father and a husband we have to prioritize our family and lives and this has been on my back burner for years...it is on the front burner on high flame, and I am going to see what kind of damage I can do on stage this year...family is 100% behind me and the wife is now training with me a few days a week and getting in my face...her sarcasm fuels me at times ;).

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Thanks I figured there was good reason just didn't know what it was. Give it time I will post some pics when I feel like less of a beached whale. :)

@ muscleaddiction yeah it happens after I lift to but I really don't care then cause I am at home eating dinner and chillaxin. It's when I am in a rush in the mornings that it annoys me. It's already a struggle to get up at quarter to 6 dunno if I could add some extra sweating time in there.

Yeah I train @ 5 am during the week due to work, so it is annoying when you get out of the shower and you start sweating again...I will stand in front of a fan and try to dry out just to get dressed. I will not train at night or prime time due to people in the gym...especially this time of year (resolution folks) people really piss me off at the gym!

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Thanks buddy...I really appreciate your input, prior to this cycle I have been clean for 5 years so time to step it up...being safe and healthy about it of course...and go for my goals now. As you know being a father and a husband we have to prioritize our family and lives and this has been on my back burner for years...it is on the front burner on high flame, and I am going to see what kind of damage I can do on stage this year...family is 100% behind me and the wife is now training with me a few days a week and getting in my face...her sarcasm fuels me at times ;).

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Having the family situation in order and them behind you makes all the difference in the world. My son trains with me usually also. He's 11 but he's 5'7" 165. Does everything I do but light weight 15 rep range less sets. Wife trains also. Having a household in the same mind set you are helps with everything. Especially diet.
 
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