Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Thanx ledhead will drop the Dbol and just run the test cyp. Will run the clomid as u said and c how that goes.As for the armidex will run it if needed.Thanx again for your input.Hope I didn't annoy u with a noob cycle.Just wanna do it right and safely.The guys I talked to in the gym were a waste of time they were adding compound after compound to the cycle.At least here I can get an honest answer from an experienced Guy.Thanx again mate.
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You are welcome, and NO, I was not really annoyed. I just don't like giving advice, so that's why I gave you suggestions; all the difference in the world. I can see how someone new to the game can get confused with all the conflicting information floating around. Remember what I all always say, TRIAL AND ERROR.. you will get there.
Give us some feedback about how your cycle is working for you. Post up progress info every so often. I'm interested about how this cycle works out for you..
Later on..
Took today off from training. I think I will change my training routine. I have a day off after I do arms, that's a waste of a day off. I probably will change it to where I have a day off after I train legs and another after I train back. Those are the most demanding body parts to train. Therefore, those will be the best days to properly utilize rest, and the most efficient days to rest my body.
I cut back on carbs on my days off because there is no way to utilize all the carbs I usually eat; eating a lot of carbs on non-workout days is not sound nutrition, the carbs will store as fat. Constantly trying to be proactive, and take advantage of little thing that can advance my physique; being an opportunist is something I strive to be, and reversing misfortunes and setbacks to benefit me. That's what separates the "saints" from the "aints."
New Years resolution: to look like Newman by mid-July. Ahhhhhhhh Ha!
I cut back on carbs on my days off because there is no way to utilize all the carbs I usually eat; eating a lot of carbs on non-workout days is not sound nutrition, the carbs will store as fat. Constantly trying to be proactive, and take advantage of little thing that can advance my physique; being an opportunist is something I strive to be, and reversing misfortunes and setbacks to benefit me. That's what separates the "saints" from the "aints."
New Years resolution: to look like Newman by mid-July. Ahhhhhhhh Ha!
What are you eating carb quantity wise on training vs non training days?
I started out 25 grams a meal 5-6 times a day on training days. Then I will bump it up 10 grams every 4 weeks, that's usually the time it takes my body to adapt, by then it is ready for a change. Pwo, I take in 50 grams. I'm prescribed Hydrochlorothiazide, which is a potent water pill. This allows me to up my carbs because the diuretics shrink the fat cells and aid with fat oxidation, and then I can utilize the carbs for more production.
Non-workout days.. I don't know, I probably cut them by 3/4. No need for them unless I'm training. They just will more than likely store as fat..
Srt8088
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Hey everybody! Led I been reading this thread every day. I love it great info! Good luck to you even though it doesn't seem you need much you're a beast man. You seem to have a ton of knowledge up in that head of yours, i appreciate you sharing some of it.
Anyways I thought I'd post some before pics in here for some extra motivation and to take part in this awesome thread I read everyday.
Current stats: 23y/o, 205lbs, 12-13% bf I think
Cycle history: 40 day winni only
40 day dbol only
40 day anavar only
50 day helladrol only
Proposed cycle:
1-12 sust 250 200mgs x 2 (400mgs)
1-4 forged extreme mass
1-4 forged bromo
1-4 cycle support ( similar to n2guard)
Aromisin (spelling?) 12.5 mgs EOD
PCT two weeks after last pin:
Clomid 12.5 mgs per day for 4 weeks
Forged post cycle
Forma stanz which I think ill start a day after my last pin
Cycle support
2 bottles of unleashed
Maybe some s1
Not sure when I'm starting this due to low food funds at the moment but I am gunna be doing an extremely lean bulk. I'd like to get to about 10% bf at 220lbs. I'll post up some pics after my cycle!! Good luck everyone lets smash some goals this year!
Anyways I thought I'd post some before pics in here for some extra motivation and to take part in this awesome thread I read everyday.
Current stats: 23y/o, 205lbs, 12-13% bf I think
Cycle history: 40 day winni only
40 day dbol only
40 day anavar only
50 day helladrol only
Proposed cycle:
1-12 sust 250 200mgs x 2 (400mgs)
1-4 forged extreme mass
1-4 forged bromo
1-4 cycle support ( similar to n2guard)
Aromisin (spelling?) 12.5 mgs EOD
PCT two weeks after last pin:
Clomid 12.5 mgs per day for 4 weeks
Forged post cycle
Forma stanz which I think ill start a day after my last pin
Cycle support
2 bottles of unleashed
Maybe some s1
Not sure when I'm starting this due to low food funds at the moment but I am gunna be doing an extremely lean bulk. I'd like to get to about 10% bf at 220lbs. I'll post up some pics after my cycle!! Good luck everyone lets smash some goals this year!
anabolicJon
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Hi Led
Do you mind if I ask you about what you take right after working out? And I would really appreciate it if you elaborate more on that topic (immediate post post work out protocol).
Thanks in advance.
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Thanks in advance.
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I just have 1 quick question about the above cycle you are proposing...Sustanon 250 is 250mg per 1ml, so why not run 250mg 2x EW for 500mg weekly? Or are you going to take a chance and just try and measure exactly 200mg every pin? If you want to just run 400mg EW then get Test Cyp 200mg which would be a better option IMO, but I will let Led chime in here.
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I get what you're saying but after it took me four months to get my money back from the guy I was originally supposed to get my gear from I was really left with no other option I am going to try to measure out each pin to 200 mgs or 0.8mL 2x a week. I am a noob to pinning is that a dumb idea?
I incorporated Vitamin C into my regimen today. Vitamin C enhances oxygen transport in your body, in part because it boosts your absorption of iron. Your body cannot deliver oxygen to cells without iron because iron is needed to form oxygen-transporting hemoglobin. Cells require oxygen in order to turn food into energy, move and reproduce, hence, the more oxygen you supply your muscle with the more the food you eat will be utilized and not wasted, which is ideal for building muscle. Also, more of a supply of oxygen aids in cell repair, and the raising of ATP, which are both great enablers for building muscle. I personally use ESTER C because it has a 400% better absorption rate than regular Vitamin C.
I mashed the f*ck out of delts today. I picked three exercises and hit front, side, and rear. Did 12 sets and left the scene in one piece. I'm not going to disclose the weight I used because I don't want to discourage anyone
Weight is unimportant anyway, mechanics, isolation, and reps were my main objectives.
High volume
Seated Military Press: 4x15. If you don't feel it on the way down then go home and watch reruns of Mork & Mindy because you are wasting your time and probably wasting the person's time who is waiting to use the military press..
Side Lateral raise (machine): 4x15. Went up enough to where my delts just barely contracted and back down to where they were not relaxed. Constant tension was applied to isolate the delts..
Barbell Rear Delt Row: 4x15 Used the same method for rear delts as for side..
Not on any drugs yet; so I'm keeping it simple and trying to gain back muscle naturally, and trying not to overtrain. So far so good..
Diet dialed in: 6 meals a day. 40 grams of protein and 25 grams of carbs per meal. Will up 10 grams each once I feel my body has adapted and growth has stopped. Slowly climbing the slope in order to make solid gains without overloading my system with doing everything at once. I will integrate things on how I feel and look.
No hurry, I have plenty of time to look totally awesome!!
I mashed the f*ck out of delts today. I picked three exercises and hit front, side, and rear. Did 12 sets and left the scene in one piece. I'm not going to disclose the weight I used because I don't want to discourage anyone
Weight is unimportant anyway, mechanics, isolation, and reps were my main objectives.High volume
Seated Military Press: 4x15. If you don't feel it on the way down then go home and watch reruns of Mork & Mindy because you are wasting your time and probably wasting the person's time who is waiting to use the military press..
Side Lateral raise (machine): 4x15. Went up enough to where my delts just barely contracted and back down to where they were not relaxed. Constant tension was applied to isolate the delts..
Barbell Rear Delt Row: 4x15 Used the same method for rear delts as for side..
Not on any drugs yet; so I'm keeping it simple and trying to gain back muscle naturally, and trying not to overtrain. So far so good..
Diet dialed in: 6 meals a day. 40 grams of protein and 25 grams of carbs per meal. Will up 10 grams each once I feel my body has adapted and growth has stopped. Slowly climbing the slope in order to make solid gains without overloading my system with doing everything at once. I will integrate things on how I feel and look.
No hurry, I have plenty of time to look totally awesome!!
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Why, thank you! To be honest, I only used Tren Suspension once; I hit it this past summer for about 6 weeks, and I used it pre-workout and every workout. My man turned me on to it, the pumps are fuckin' crazy. I will definitely incorporate it in my up coming cycle.. It's nasty. Ahhh Ha!
Thanks for posting up pictures, you look good. I'll let MA critique cycles, that's not my thing. I'm glad you are enjoying the thread. Keep following and give us progress info on how your cycle is working for you. Thank you for the compliments!
Right now, I'm eating 6 oz sirloin with 1/2 cup of brown rice and some veggies. I stay away from simple carbs because of the insulin spike, which makes you more susceptible to storing fat. Usually, some creatine and glutamine and then eat 45 minutes later. I add stuff as I adapt and grow. Stay tuned, I don't want to give the whole show away already..
Bro, explain to me exactly what the problem is because I'm a little confused. Then I will give you a suggestion...
anabolicJon
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Thanks for the quick response Led. You answered my thoughts, because I was contemplating on dropping protein shakes and replace them with whole food.
And definitely staying tuned as long as this thread is alive.
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Tension,tension,tension,if u can't feel it on the way down u shud go home and watch Mork and Mindy lol,well said ledhead.I always take four seconds to bring the weight down nd it worked wonders.Strenght improving immensely.Once again more solid advice from the king himself ledhead.This is an awesome thread keep up the great work.
Srt8088
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I don't think it's an issue to measure out 0.8 cc's/mLs every pin to end up with 200 mgs per pin (2x a week = 400 mgs a week) instead of a simple 1 mL measurement to equal 250 mgs per pin (2x a week = 500 mgs a week) but I have never injected before. I would imagine the syringe has a form of accurate measurement scale on it where with a little math I could figure out any amount of mgs/pin i would like to shoot.
I was just a little confused when MA suggested running it at 500 mgs instead because I've never really even examined a syringe but I figured it be easy enough to draw exactly how much gear I want into each pin.
I was just a little confused when MA suggested running it at 500 mgs instead because I've never really even examined a syringe but I figured it be easy enough to draw exactly how much gear I want into each pin.
I incorporated couple more vitamins into my regimen today. Vitamin B (thiamin), it helps convert carbs into energy, which is ideal for vigorous activities in return deflect carbs from storing to fat. Vitamin B also increases appetite to a degree, which is what we want so we can eat every 2-3 hours to stay in a constant "anabolic state." Consequently, we put on more tissue and simultaneously get hard.
Also incorporated MAGNESIUM: increases protein synthesis, and muscular contraction, which is ideal to pack on quality muscle.
I destroyed my back today.. Again, I'm not going to say how much weight I used because that's irrelevant at this time. What is relevant is having the right form; and isolating the muscle, which I feel I succeeded in doing because I can barely walk right now...
High volume
15 sets.
Deads 4 x15 brought it down slow and came back up and squeezed my back. Caught a nice rhythm without cheating and totally isolated my back with minimal use of BIs.
Bent Over rows 4x 15 Just continued to be strict with the correct form and concentrated on "feeling" the movement in my back. Mission accomplished!
One arm rows (cable) 4x 15 nice isolation movement and great for getting a good stretch..
Pull ups (wide grip) 3 x10 these were rough, that's why I only got 10 reps out of the deal; which is alright because I'm still only three weeks back from a 2 month layoff..
I think I will bust my move within the next 2 weeks by inserting a bunch of illicit drugs into regimen, which Tren will be the catalyst..
I'm ready to take it to the fuckin' street!!!
Also incorporated MAGNESIUM: increases protein synthesis, and muscular contraction, which is ideal to pack on quality muscle.
I destroyed my back today.. Again, I'm not going to say how much weight I used because that's irrelevant at this time. What is relevant is having the right form; and isolating the muscle, which I feel I succeeded in doing because I can barely walk right now...
High volume
15 sets.
Deads 4 x15 brought it down slow and came back up and squeezed my back. Caught a nice rhythm without cheating and totally isolated my back with minimal use of BIs.
Bent Over rows 4x 15 Just continued to be strict with the correct form and concentrated on "feeling" the movement in my back. Mission accomplished!
One arm rows (cable) 4x 15 nice isolation movement and great for getting a good stretch..
Pull ups (wide grip) 3 x10 these were rough, that's why I only got 10 reps out of the deal; which is alright because I'm still only three weeks back from a 2 month layoff..
I think I will bust my move within the next 2 weeks by inserting a bunch of illicit drugs into regimen, which Tren will be the catalyst..
I'm ready to take it to the fuckin' street!!!
It really is no big deal...but being your first time injecting I was trying to save you the headache of figuring out 200mg from 250mg in the syringe. If you want to just run 400mg of test for your first cycle then just go with Test Cyp 200mg/ml and inject 2x EW like you are planning...was just confused at first when I saw your post and that stuck out at me...not saying it is right or wrong, just giving $.02.
I don't see any HCG in your cycle...you are going to want to pick up some, as well as HCGenerate as well and incorporate them into your cycle to minimize and kickstart your PCT. You can run HCGenerate for 4 weeks, then switch to HCG for 4 week @ 500iu EW, and run it until you start PCT (2 weeks after last pin), and then run your PCT.
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Yeah buddy!!! Anticipation is killing me...this is a beautiful start to what is going to be an epic finish...lets hit the streets brotha!!!
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Epic, to say the least!
Because winning championships is what we are all about!! There are winners and there are losers; I'm a winner, always have been and always will be. I know this nerdy kid from my gym, who is real good with technology; he is going to help me make a nice, clear YouTube Video; that will end all speculation, if there is any? Evan gets to pick the body part I train
I took the day off from training, I will destroy quads tomorrow. I was going to expound a little on protein synthesis and absorption but I don't feel like it tonight, I will tomorrow.
Get with me when you can, bro. We have to discuss who gets what when we conquer the world. I got dibs on Mexico and Puerto Rico
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I wanna see back/delts!
Epic, to say the least!
Because winning championships is what we are all about!! There are winners and there are losers; I'm a winner, always have been and always will be. I know this nerdy kid from my gym, who is real good with technology; he is going to help me make a nice, clear YouTube Video; that will end all speculation, if there is any? Evan gets to pick the body part I train
I took the day off from training, I will destroy quads tomorrow. I was going to expound a little on protein synthesis and absorption but I don't feel like it tonight, I will tomorrow.
Get with me when you can, bro. We have to discuss who gets what when we conquer the world. I got dibs on Mexico and Puerto Rico
Haha!!! Alright, I will start with North America of course, and I will go with Brazil since my wife is part...and the women there aren't too shabby either
.I too am a champion...champions are the ones who sacrafice to get to their goals!!! Last night my wife and I went out on a date night to see a really cool band (our close friend's brother is in the band) called Good Luck Thrift Store Outfit, kind of a rockabilly trucker music, and we had the best time dancing and just letting loose!!! Neither one of us drink...I just don't have any desire for it, so I drank water all night, ended up being the designated driver for 4 drunk ladies and one smashed bro. We didn't get home until 2:30 am, ate some food because I was starving, hit the pillow for 5 hours, got up and was at the gym by 9 am and did the following...
Extensions (4 sets/15 reps...last set 180lbs)
Hack Squats (4 sets/15 reps...last set with 405lbs)
Leg Press (4 sets/15 reps...last set 1095lbs)
Walking Lunges (4 sets/12 steps ea leg...135lbs)
Lying Leg Curls (4 sets/15 reps...last set 115lbs)
My point is you can go out and have fun which you need that balance especially when you are married or are in a relationship, but you don't lose focus on what the end result of your goals are...and you don't let anything come or get in the way of them...period!!!
Am I tired...yes, will I recover...yes, will I do it day after day...you fucking bet I am!!!!
Legs would have been my call but if he's doing back hopefully there is some dead lifts in there.
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I was going to say legs. But I would rather see back/delt training.. And maybe some leg posing! I wanna see some deads
I was going to say legs. But I would rather see back/delt training.. And maybe some leg posing! I wanna see some deads
Damn, kids these days want everything. You pick one body part and that's it, if it's back I will do deads. I don't care what you body part you pick, it's up to you. I can't do two major body parts in one session like that, you have to remember I'm old
Damn, kids these days want everything. You pick one body part and that's it, if it's back I will do deads. I don't care what you body part you pick, it's up to you. I can't do two major body parts in one session like that, you have to remember I'm old
Back and Rear Delts maybe...
Haha!!! Alright, I will start with North America of course, and I will go with Brazil since my wife is part...and the women there aren't too shabby either
I too am a champion...champions are the ones who sacrafice to get to their goals!!! Last night my wife and I went out on a date night to see a really cool band (our close friend's brother is in the band) called Good Luck Thrift Store Outfit, kind of a rockabilly trucker music, and we had the best time dancing and just letting loose!!! Neither one of us drink...I just don't have any desire for it, so I drank water all night, ended up being the designated driver for 4 drunk ladies and one smashed bro. We didn't get home until 2:30 am, ate some food because I was starving, hit the pillow for 5 hours, got up and was at the gym by 9 am and did the following...
Extensions (4 sets/15 reps...last set 180lbs)
Hack Squats (4 sets/15 reps...last set with 405lbs)
Leg Press (4 sets/15 reps...last set 1095lbs)
Walking Lunges (4 sets/12 steps ea leg...135lbs)
Lying Leg Curls (4 sets/15 reps...last set 115lbs)
My point is you can go out and have fun which you need that balance especially when you are married or are in a relationship, but you don't lose focus on what the end result of your goals are...and you don't let anything come or get in the way of them...period!!!
Am I tired...yes, will I recover...yes, will I do it day after day...you fucking bet I am!!!!
Good lord! those numbers are sick! Try training natural like me. Cheater
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Back than! Back is my weak part so I would like to see you do it
Good lord! those numbers are sick! Try training natural like me. Cheater
...and your point
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...and your point
No point.. I'm just jelly!
You're sandbagging, you haven't been posting your weights...irrelevant at this point
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You're sandbagging, you haven't been posting your weights...irrelevant at this point
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Weeelll... I don't want to demoralize anyone! No, my numbers are not that great to be quite honest. But keep in mind I just came off of a two month layoff 2 1/2 weeks ago. Nevertheless, I still don't know if I will match your numbers, bro. Your numbers are fuckin' fierce! After I read that I went and took a bath in Tren
Well now...I think it is time for a picture !!!
This was the next set...
After this I end up having to put bodies sitting up on the sled...no more room for any plates.
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This was the next set...
After this I end up having to put bodies sitting up on the sled...no more room for any plates.
Well now...I think it is time for a picture
This was the next set...
After this I end up having to put bodies sitting up on the sled...no more room for any plates.
Awesome totally awesome. That is siiiccckkk...
Jesus....thanks for the umm....motivation lol. I have legs tonight. I should be able to get over 1000 for 2 or 3 but I'm natty right now (105 mg sust e2w I'd call that natty) . Plus I have a torn acl and medial meniscus in my left knee.
Hey MA......why no stiff leg DL brother?
Hey MA......why no stiff leg DL brother?
Trust me I incorporate them too, starting this week I will be training legs 2x a week, training back/hams one day and quads another, obviously hitting all legs when squatting, pressing, and lunging, but will be doing stiffs more now. Like I said I have always been strong even off cycle which was for 5 years, but now shit is going to get fun, and Led is now my coach and we are working on fine tuning things. I need to get the sweep in my quads more defined and yes build my hams, so two separate workouts isolating them I think will be the ticket.
Go hit legs bro...and for all who is following remember...the house you build is only as strong as your foundation...so build your foundation (legs) and don't be one of those top heavy chicken leg guys in the gym. I still say that they created the Physique class in bodybuilding shows for those who only like to train upper body, and lack the development in their legs...I mean they get to wear board shorts that covers their legs...what does that tell you?
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Still slowly incorporating different supplements. The absorption of protein is crucial to building muscle. The more protein you can absorb the more protein synthesis is at work; consequently more muscle "can" be produced. When protein is digested, it is converted to amino acids, which is the body's usable form of protein. It is the digestive enzymes found within your gastrointestinal tract that complete this absorption process. Hence, consuming certain types of proteolytic enzymes such as Aspergillus niger and Aspergillus oryzae in supplement form can increase your absorption rate of protein by up to 100%. It is a bodybuilders dream to absorb 100% of their protein intake (it should be); hence, incorporate one of the enzymes above because it will aid you with slabbing on quality muscle if your diet is checked.
Inserted Creatine into my regimen. I prefer Creatine Phosphate because it stores energy that will be transferred to ADP to resynthesize ATP as needed; which is very important while weight training because when a muscle is contracted ATP goes back ADP, which in return the loss of energy occurs. By using Creatine Phosphate before or during your workout you sustain ATP; and continue to produce energy to power muscle contractions, which is ideal to increase intensity and endurance during weight training. Remember, ATP is like a spark of energy that can be used to do work in the body; therefore you always want a constant flow of ATP during weight training in order to have awesome workouts.
I trained wheels today. I'm still in the "conditioning phase," so I concentrated more on mechanics and form than trying to be Superman, that will come in time I changed my quad routine just a little today; I dropped a few sets and upped my reps, which I got a nasty pump.
Quads: did 9 sets
Squats 3x20. Narrow foot stance so the knees go out to avoid injury. Strict and controlling motion, made sure I felt the weight on the way down and isolated the quad. Mission accomplished.
Leg press 3x20. Wider foot stance so I could hit the upper part of my quads and hips. Did the same method for presses as I did for squats..
Leg extensions 3x20. Concentrated on squeezing when I locked out.. Does wonders for the teardrops..
Hams
Stiff legs: 5x20. Kinda got in a nice rhythm without getting sloppy and put constant tension on my hams.
I avoided overtraining, there is enough of that to go around. I'll pass!!
My conditioning is coming along faster than I expected; therefore, it might be time to start my cycle.
Goal: 250-252 @ 4-5% BF by mid-July.. I know I will get there, I got that feeling
Inserted Creatine into my regimen. I prefer Creatine Phosphate because it stores energy that will be transferred to ADP to resynthesize ATP as needed; which is very important while weight training because when a muscle is contracted ATP goes back ADP, which in return the loss of energy occurs. By using Creatine Phosphate before or during your workout you sustain ATP; and continue to produce energy to power muscle contractions, which is ideal to increase intensity and endurance during weight training. Remember, ATP is like a spark of energy that can be used to do work in the body; therefore you always want a constant flow of ATP during weight training in order to have awesome workouts.
I trained wheels today. I'm still in the "conditioning phase," so I concentrated more on mechanics and form than trying to be Superman, that will come in time
I changed my quad routine just a little today; I dropped a few sets and upped my reps, which I got a nasty pump. Quads: did 9 sets
Squats 3x20. Narrow foot stance so the knees go out to avoid injury. Strict and controlling motion, made sure I felt the weight on the way down and isolated the quad. Mission accomplished.
Leg press 3x20. Wider foot stance so I could hit the upper part of my quads and hips. Did the same method for presses as I did for squats..
Leg extensions 3x20. Concentrated on squeezing when I locked out.. Does wonders for the teardrops..
Hams
Stiff legs: 5x20. Kinda got in a nice rhythm without getting sloppy and put constant tension on my hams.
I avoided overtraining, there is enough of that to go around. I'll pass!!
My conditioning is coming along faster than I expected; therefore, it might be time to start my cycle.
Goal: 250-252 @ 4-5% BF by mid-July.. I know I will get there, I got that feeling
You train legs with a torn ACL and a torn Meniscus?? I forsee a knee replacement here in the near future. I know few things about structual damage because I ripped my labrum and the capsule that protects the discs in your back. When you have structual damage the body strives to reattach the disconnected tissue. However, the body is unable to reattch the tissue, hence, scar tissue will build up; and arthritis will set in, and then you will be in a world of shit. Moreover, the more you let the scar tissue and arthritis build up the more you will damage you knee beyond repair. Consequently, you will need a knee replacement; maybe not now but 5-10 years from now you might.
My right delt is about shot from multiple tears; and being a hard head I went long periods of time before getting it surgically repaired. Years of scar tissue and arthritis built up in my delt; the last time I got it repaired was 2010. My Doctor told me when he went in there that the "tears in the labrum were the least of his of his worries; he said I had so much scar tissue and arthritis that eventually I will need a total delt replacement.
I don't know your whole story, but from what I read you should get that repaired ASAP. Now, that is just a suggestion.. Don't end up like me because my training days are numbered..
Good job buddy!!! So would this be a good choice for digestive enzymes?
Digesta Matrix for optimal digestive health.
As far as creatine goes, I have been using Creatine Nitrate religiously (4 caps PreWO/PostWO)...seems to work well for me.
Digesta Matrix for optimal digestive health.
As far as creatine goes, I have been using Creatine Nitrate religiously (4 caps PreWO/PostWO)...seems to work well for me.
Lets keep this thread what it is...the road to the championship...the road to domination!!! I will nurse injuries when I am 6' under!!!
Let's stay positive folks!!!
Looks good to me.. Can you tell the difference when you take and when you don't take it?
Oh, Im not being pessimistic at all. I'm just trying to help a bro be proactive, and save him from having future headaches.
I'm definitely bringing home the gold
I'll try and be as brief as I can with this derail. I tore it when I was 17 (tore both at the same time). Since I had been doing heavy leg press since I was 14 my legs were huge and the muscles supported my knee. I had an xray which showed nothing (obviously). it was 1992 so that says alot too. I'm now almost 37. I have had zero issues lifting heavy, running ect since then. Only issues would be stability from the torn meniscus when trying to plant quick as if a running back changing direction. But obviously that doesnt happen in the gym or day to day life. I only thought I had a torn meniscus. It wasnt until I seriously tore the medial meniscus in my right knee during pro wrestling back in 09' that I got a comparison MRI on my left knee. The ortho said do you know your left ACL is wasted? Like a floppy empty tendon sheath with zero structural value. I said no? He said its toast and that I shouldnt continue wrestling without getting it fixed. SO since wrestling was a hobby I stopped.
I know it needs reconstruction. He told me since it doesnt bother me that I can go when I'm ready. The only thing that bothers it is walking on a treadmill at a steep incline because the acl isnt there to keep the joint tight. No issues otherwise. the torn meniscus spot will hurt way before anything else gets irritated if I run. I have one of those real expensive donjoy braces for both knees if need be.
I can say this.....after using TB500 and Ipamorelin for apx 5 mos...my knee feels better and can take more abuse. Why? I dont know? Im not about to imply that it affected the wasted ligament. that would be stupidly insane. But it made a very noticable difference. I'm shooting for next january for replacement.
Sorry for the derail gents.....As you were.
I'll try and be as brief as I can with this derail. I tore it when I was 17 (tore both at the same time). Since I had been doing heavy leg press since I was 14 my legs were huge and the muscles supported my knee. I had an xray which showed nothing (obviously). it was 1992 so that says alot too. I'm now almost 37. I have had zero issues lifting heavy, running ect since then. Only issues would be stability from the torn meniscus when trying to plant quick as if a running back changing direction. But obviously that doesnt happen in the gym or day to day life. I only thought I had a torn meniscus. It wasnt until I seriously tore the medial meniscus in my right knee during pro wrestling back in 09' that I got a comparison MRI on my left knee. The ortho said do you know your left ACL is wasted? Like a floppy empty tendon sheath with zero structural value. I said no? He said its toast and that I shouldnt continue wrestling without getting it fixed. SO since wrestling was a hobby I stopped.
I know it needs reconstruction. He told me since it doesnt bother me that I can go when I'm ready. The only thing that bothers it is walking on a treadmill at a steep incline because the acl isnt there to keep the joint tight. No issues otherwise. the torn meniscus spot will hurt way before anything else gets irritated if I run. I have one of those real expensive donjoy braces for both knees if need be.
I can say this.....after using TB500 and Ipamorelin for apx 5 mos...my knee feels better and can take more abuse. Why? I dont know? Im not about to imply that it affected the wasted ligament. that would be stupidly insane. But it made a very noticable difference. I'm shooting for next january for replacement.
Sorry for the derail gents.....As you were.
We are glad to have you here bro...that is what this thread is all about, bros exchanging ideas, knowledge, experience, and keeping motivated...you are a big part of that BTC!!!
I did chest tonight. Stuck with the basics and worked on my conditioning. At the moment I really don't have anything to share except something interesting occurred to me tonight while I was training. I never really pay attention to who is in the gym nor do I pay attention to how people train (quit doing that years ago) unless they are a huge distraction. Anyway, when I was in between sets and I noticed everyone in the gym was wearing a tank top, and I was the only one wearing a sweatshirt with a tank top underneath. Well, I got a nice pump and peeled down to my tank top; after a few minutes I looked around and noticed I was the only one wearing a tank top and everyone else in the gym was wearing a sweatshirt. I thought that was rather odd
I did chest tonight. Stuck with the basics and worked on my conditioning. At the moment I really don't have anything to share except something interesting occurred to me tonight while I was training. I never really pay attention to who is in the gym nor do I pay attention to how people train (quit doing that years ago) unless they are a huge distraction. Anyway, when I was in between sets and I noticed everyone in the gym was wearing a tank top, and I was the only one wearing a sweatshirt with a tank top underneath. Well, I got a nice pump and peeled down to my tank top; after a few minutes I looked around and noticed I was the only one wearing a tank top and everyone else in the gym was wearing a sweatshirt. I thought that was rather odd
They probably seen you and put their sweatshirts on to save embarrassment lol!!!
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Ahhhh...I remember my first time, she was sweet...oh wait we are talking about pinning...yeah it hurt like hell lol!!!
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Precisely, my friend.. Lolololo
Good God! I think I have dementia, I can't remember nothing.. You have a memory like an elephant..
Check this out. Some dude made one of the best posts I have ever read on this site tonight. Check it out..
New here and could use some tips/advise!
Aplopez8
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Lol. We are talking about "first time pinning" not the first time anyone had sex. Do me a favor and keep the smut out of my thread, please. Thank you in advance.
Remember my first time too,can't pass a beach without thinking about it hahah.Sorry ledhead shud b talking bout my first pin.After reading all bout pinning and how some guys say it took a while to pin was worried.But when it came down to it I just got stuck in(excuse the pun).It was piss easy to be honest.Slight bit of soreness today but nothing major.Look forward to the next one and hope all goes well.
Went to gym today nd my body fat is down to 12% from 15%.Weight down to 84 from 87kg.Set out a goal a few weeks back to drop my bodyfat to 12% nd drop weight down to 85 kg.Went a kg lower oops.Lost most of the fat around my waist which I'm happy with nd was my main plan.Unfortunately lost a bit of mass in the upper chest but will sort that out fairly sharpish.Now just gotta train like a beast nd eat like a beast to grow.
Don't be sorry. I been pinning off and on for nearly 20 years and sometimes I get the shakes. It's not a natural thing to cause trauma to yourself. It takes time to get "somewhat" used to it; I don't believe there is anyone who really enjoys pinning, if they do they have some serious problems.
Defo something wrong if someone enjoys pinning ledhead.Read threads bout how guys took twenty mins to pin nd were shaking like a leaf there first go.I just said to myself if u can sit and get tattooed for a couple of hours u can do this no prob.Just followed the procedure for pinning took a deep breath and went for it,no waiting around.Did have a slight shake doing it.Thank God don't have to do it everyday.Looking forward to this cycle and a 100% focused on doing it right and safely.Dont want to damage my health nd mess it up.Just hope the girlfriend dosent find out.She was asking y there was so much chicken,beef,Turkey in the freezer.Just told her my new years resolution was to train hard and gain weight healthily.Not gud to be on the receiving end of an Irish woman's anger.All hell will break lose and they make us suffer for months on end haha.
I'm slowly climbing my slope that I have devised just for me. Hence, my timing is right on the money, which is crucial in relation to hitting a BB show. I'm still in that "conditioning phase," and will probably stay there until my muscles are adapted to that phase; then I will insert some roids, but I will start out with low doses and increase the dosage as I grow and adapt to that dose, and continue to adjust my dosage depending on the way I look and feel. I'm sort of reluctant to post my "tentative cycle" because people get fixated and fascinated with cycles, which is absurd. People tend to focus on the roids instead of the fundamental things that make you grow: diet, rest, timing, and proper training. Then they want to know why this isn't working and why they are not growing, and why that isn't working; that's because their focus is in the wrong area and they have become roid-dependant and end up with a frustrating experience.
My diet is checked! I'm still eating 6 meals a day, and still have a 40:25 protein to carb ratio. I will increase my ratio as my body grows and adapts to that ratio; usually increase 10 grams for both protein and carbs as we gradually climb the slope and reach a plateau, then adjust things to reach the next plateau. Knowing my body, I will end up inserting one or two more meals before it is all over. Again, I can't be anxious, I have to be cool and listen to my body and not try to force things. The worst thing a BB can do is force things to happen and start inserting 1,000 different things into their regimen; that is a bad idea because overloading your system with a bunch of exogenous stuff eventually will cause a malfunction somewhere.
Carbohydrates: a bodybuilders best friend. Carbohydrates provide energy for vigorous weight training and enhances endurance, which what we want to mash the f*ck out of whatever we are training without getting fatigued. Adequate intake of carbohydrates ensures enough energy to carry out daily activities so that the body does not have to break down protein stores; this is the most important benefit from carbs because we all know or should know protein is critical for muscle growth. The more protein your body utilizes the more muscle you pack on, which is the main objective of a BBer.
B12 in conjuction with carbs; Vitamin B12 is needed for energy production. It helps your body turn food into fuel. Glucose is your body's primary fuel source. When you eat carbohydrates, such as vegetables, fruits, beans and grains, B12 helps your body convert them to glucose to fuel your body, which is ideal for packing on muscle.
NTBM's Gear: I have to admit I'm not really a sup guy but I love NTBM's gear because it makes my muscles look fuller and helps me to keep constant "nitrogen retention," which is synonymous with being in an "anabolic state." I eat every 2 1/2 hours, so I take 2 gear capsules between meals. Example: eat then an 1hr 15 minutes later take 2 gear capsules, 1hr 15 minutes eat again and keep repeating that cycle throughout the day and night.. It works for me, it might work for..
I obliterated arms tonight.. 9 sets for BIs and 9 sets for TRIs. Again, weight does not matter, mechanics, form, isolation, and getting a nice pump matters. Mission accomplished.. I trained for about 40 minutes. Took 30 seconds between sets and stayed with high reps, which is ideal for getting jacked. Now, for all you folks who are so impressed with people doing heavy weight pay attention. Going heavy is great as long as you can do high reps, now I'm talking to BBers; people can train however they want, but if you are anticipating a career in BB you will have to adjust your training to fit a BB's needs. I will reiterate what I already said, I can bench 500, squat 600, dead 600 all for a triple anytime I feel like it. However, that type of training is an antagonist to a BB. Soooo I personally avoid that type of training with the greatest care. Now, I'm talking to people who want to BB and compete; everyone's goals on this site are different, so I don't knock what other people do. This is purely my perspective!!
Goal: 250-253 di, di, diced!!! By mid-July..
Later on, bros and broettes...
My diet is checked! I'm still eating 6 meals a day, and still have a 40:25 protein to carb ratio. I will increase my ratio as my body grows and adapts to that ratio; usually increase 10 grams for both protein and carbs as we gradually climb the slope and reach a plateau, then adjust things to reach the next plateau. Knowing my body, I will end up inserting one or two more meals before it is all over. Again, I can't be anxious, I have to be cool and listen to my body and not try to force things. The worst thing a BB can do is force things to happen and start inserting 1,000 different things into their regimen; that is a bad idea because overloading your system with a bunch of exogenous stuff eventually will cause a malfunction somewhere.
Carbohydrates: a bodybuilders best friend. Carbohydrates provide energy for vigorous weight training and enhances endurance, which what we want to mash the f*ck out of whatever we are training without getting fatigued. Adequate intake of carbohydrates ensures enough energy to carry out daily activities so that the body does not have to break down protein stores; this is the most important benefit from carbs because we all know or should know protein is critical for muscle growth. The more protein your body utilizes the more muscle you pack on, which is the main objective of a BBer.
B12 in conjuction with carbs; Vitamin B12 is needed for energy production. It helps your body turn food into fuel. Glucose is your body's primary fuel source. When you eat carbohydrates, such as vegetables, fruits, beans and grains, B12 helps your body convert them to glucose to fuel your body, which is ideal for packing on muscle.
NTBM's Gear: I have to admit I'm not really a sup guy but I love NTBM's gear because it makes my muscles look fuller and helps me to keep constant "nitrogen retention," which is synonymous with being in an "anabolic state." I eat every 2 1/2 hours, so I take 2 gear capsules between meals. Example: eat then an 1hr 15 minutes later take 2 gear capsules, 1hr 15 minutes eat again and keep repeating that cycle throughout the day and night.. It works for me, it might work for..
I obliterated arms tonight.. 9 sets for BIs and 9 sets for TRIs. Again, weight does not matter, mechanics, form, isolation, and getting a nice pump matters. Mission accomplished.. I trained for about 40 minutes. Took 30 seconds between sets and stayed with high reps, which is ideal for getting jacked. Now, for all you folks who are so impressed with people doing heavy weight pay attention. Going heavy is great as long as you can do high reps, now I'm talking to BBers; people can train however they want, but if you are anticipating a career in BB you will have to adjust your training to fit a BB's needs. I will reiterate what I already said, I can bench 500, squat 600, dead 600 all for a triple anytime I feel like it. However, that type of training is an antagonist to a BB. Soooo I personally avoid that type of training with the greatest care. Now, I'm talking to people who want to BB and compete; everyone's goals on this site are different, so I don't knock what other people do. This is purely my perspective!!
Goal: 250-253 di, di, diced!!! By mid-July..
Later on, bros and broettes...
You are asking for trouble keeping it from your girlfriend, so you are basically being dishonest to her and she will leave you if and when she finds out...guaranteed. If she is already asking questions about your food supply, bro you have fun with that...my wife pins my glutes for me, and really good at it...because she is part of what I do, she is my support...you can have it too if you are honest and up front, and maybe not but at least you won't have to live a lie.
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I use Gear as well...also take 4 caps pre/post workout, and in between meals for nitrogen retention. Need to get some B12...are we talking injectable? Nice read here...did arms today as well:
Triceps:
V-bar Pressdowns
Close Grip Bench
Rope Overhead Extensions
Biceps:
Seated BB Curls
One Arm Cable Preachers
DB Hammer Curls
30 minutes treadmill 3.6 @ 4%
Your goal will be conquered!
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Looks like you got it going on! Mash the f*ck out of them 20 inch pipes..
NTBM's GEAR is one of those "revolutionary'' sups that gives a BB a little edge for building muscle and combating catabolism. I highly recommend "gear for those express reasons.
B-12: Yes, injectable form. B12 also increases appetite and gives a little sense of well being, which helps to neutralize the insanity that I get from taking a gram a tren a week
I know where to get some good b12, it's time released. You only have to pin it ED for the first week then twice a week for the duration. All other b12 you have to pin ED for the duration of use; no thanks, I'll pass. I'll hit you up where you can get this B12..
Looks like you got it going on! Mash the f*ck out of them 20 inch pipes..
NTBM's GEAR is one of those "revolutionary'' sups that gives a BB a little edge for building muscle and combating catabolism. I highly recommend "gear for those express reasons.
B-12: Yes, injectable form. B12 also increases appetite and gives a little sense of well being, which helps to neutralize the insanity that I get from taking a gram a tren a week
I know where to get some good b12, it's time released. You only have to pin it ED for the first week then twice a week for the duration. All other b12 you have to pin ED for the duration of use; no thanks, I'll pass. I'll hit you up where you can get this B12..
Please do...always been interested, thanks bro!
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Thanks! Stick around because you ain't seen nothing yet. I'm going to post a YouTube video of me in the next couple weeks utterly destroying my back..
Rest day, nothing really to report. I just murdered some chords today; had the whole neighborhood in an uproar. I love causing a disturbance! Ahhhh Ha!
I feel good and I believe my conditioning is coming along rather well, so I feel my muscles are steroid ready. I'll reiterate what I said, I don't really believe calipers are accurate and the mirror says more, however, I am so fuckin' paranoid about reaching my goal I had the intern at my gym check my BF tonight. I weighed in at 247 @ 8% BF; which I'm sort of pleased with considering I took a 2 month layoff and only been back in the gym 3 weeks. Consequently, I started my cycle today; I rather not disclose my cycle for numerous reasons, but I will tell everyone this, there is no room for error. I have to win at all costs, and I will or I will never live it down, hence, I'm on a mission and my mission will not stop until they crown me overall champion (I have 3 overalls under my belt). Anything other than winning the whole show will be deemed as a failure as far as I'm concerned; first place in my class will not be good enough; winning the overall is the objective, and winning the overall makes a statement! Consequently, I have to think big and do unconventional things that will seem crazy, unorthadox, and paradoxical to the masses. Therefore, I will divulge only one drug I inserted today.
Parabolan aka tren hex. Imo, the best drug on the market; it changes your entire body compostion with the quickness. I love it, it's my sweetheart, we get along just tops
As for the proverbial argument about prolactin and progesteron from 19-nortestosterone; there seems to be 'another' misconception about these drugs. People think you have to insert prami, caber, or bromo from Jump St. because they think prolactin build up will definitely occur, that is more steroid board mythology...
There is no evidence that controlling prolactin will prevent or treat gynecomastia. Many of the issues that are being attributed to prolactin can be explained through other mechanisms. While reducing prolactin may help with reduced libido and shutdown due to AAS, the potential risks involved with using dopaminergics to reduce prolactin levels probably outweighs the benefits. If "estrogen" is controlled during a cycle, then prolactin is unlikely to be elevated and unlikely to cause a problem. Consequently, people are always told to make sure their test dosage is higher than their tren dosage to prevent shut down, that is complete nonsense.. I control my estro because that is the main culprit that triggers off prolactin. Therefore, I run TRT dose of test while on tren; not because of libido issues, because you need a little estro to grow and stay alive. Anyway, I probably will insert a small dose of Bromocriptine because I always had success with it. Also, Bromo decreases lipogenesis (the conversion of carbohydrate-to-fat) and increases protein turnover which leads to improved body composition, which is exactly what the Doctor ordered..
I murdered by back today. I did 15 sets and stayed at 15 reps; hit every part of my back. I concentrated on: isolation, mechanics, conditioning, getting the blood flowing, and using my BIs less and back more. Objective complete!!
Later on...
Parabolan aka tren hex. Imo, the best drug on the market; it changes your entire body compostion with the quickness. I love it, it's my sweetheart, we get along just tops
As for the proverbial argument about prolactin and progesteron from 19-nortestosterone; there seems to be 'another' misconception about these drugs. People think you have to insert prami, caber, or bromo from Jump St. because they think prolactin build up will definitely occur, that is more steroid board mythology...
There is no evidence that controlling prolactin will prevent or treat gynecomastia. Many of the issues that are being attributed to prolactin can be explained through other mechanisms. While reducing prolactin may help with reduced libido and shutdown due to AAS, the potential risks involved with using dopaminergics to reduce prolactin levels probably outweighs the benefits. If "estrogen" is controlled during a cycle, then prolactin is unlikely to be elevated and unlikely to cause a problem. Consequently, people are always told to make sure their test dosage is higher than their tren dosage to prevent shut down, that is complete nonsense.. I control my estro because that is the main culprit that triggers off prolactin. Therefore, I run TRT dose of test while on tren; not because of libido issues, because you need a little estro to grow and stay alive. Anyway, I probably will insert a small dose of Bromocriptine because I always had success with it. Also, Bromo decreases lipogenesis (the conversion of carbohydrate-to-fat) and increases protein turnover which leads to improved body composition, which is exactly what the Doctor ordered..
I murdered by back today. I did 15 sets and stayed at 15 reps; hit every part of my back. I concentrated on: isolation, mechanics, conditioning, getting the blood flowing, and using my BIs less and back more. Objective complete!!
Later on...
^^^ well I don't know about everyone else but I just learned something that interests me, something more to look into. I have used Prami while on cycle using Tren Ace @ 100mg EOD, but I will say it helped with libido, the wife can vouch for that. So TRT dose test is 100-150mg EW?
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250mg huh? Well that is what I will be doing as you know until next cycle, along with the other recommendations. Thanks for the food for thought, peaked my interest to further research more.
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TheRippedReverend
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Makes two of us!!! Man and I just put dont forget your caber
Slap me and call me Susan
TheRippedReverend
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Ive always heard 125-200 is trt
TRT is whatever keeps your bloods in your desired range. 800-1200 ng/dl. TRT = normal or just slightly above.
250 is a cruise to maintain a reasonable level of health while maintaining more mass between blasts.
Susan!!!
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250 sounds like a good number...but you are right BTC, will be a responsible boy and have my bloods done.
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For competitive BB'rs who blast and cruise 250 is pretty standard cruise. If bloods dont return to normal they should be real close.
Following instructions at moment...so will be running that dose for a little bit.
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Hey muscle addiction.After reading your post the last day I told my girlfriend I was on cycle. Explained everything to her and how the cycle works.She was very supportive and has offered to do the pinning for me starting Monday.The following day after dinner she dropped a holiday brochure on the table saying now u can pick my two week 'cycle' for when u r finished yours haha.Knew I wasn't going to it away with it that easy.Women.....
Well don't you feel better knowing you won't have to hide what you are doing from her...hiding your gear, pins, used pins, having her question what the alcohol swabs are for, having to keep your HCG in the fridge when reconstituted, the size increase you will get...saying eating more chicken breasts works for maybe a week, things bros don't think about when they are about to lie and be dishonest with their girls...losing her would be worse than you two enjoying a trip to France after you have done a nice cycle the right way with the support of your girl...oh and you're welcome!
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I was thinking about a cruise like cycle at some point in time. Like a 250ew for 6 months seems to me you'd get more out of it depending on goals.
6 mos at 250 a week will keep your RBC elevated. If your ok with that then go for it. I personally wouldnt want that.
TheRippedReverend
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Good for you bro!!! My girl is also so very very supportive you just gotta deligate everything to them be cofident and know what your talking about.
I think most women get scared bc they think your gonna wig out and beat there ass one day. That shit is over rated. No such thing as roidrage.
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Yeah, see I dont know much about trt/cruise style cycles. But to me it would just make sense that ok:
1-12=3 months so 1-12@500ew= same as 250ew@24wks?
Maybe if I ever do ill hit 125-150ew my gear is homebrew so am sure its a little weaker.
Havent cycled for a year now so Idk.
Like I told MA, the only way to really tell where 100mg wk has your bloods vs 200 or 250 wk is to run them each til levels stabilize and get bloods done.
I dont think 250x6 mos = 500x3 mos though. I see what your saying in theory but I dont think it would apply in reality.
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So at some point you test will peak out and stay the same?
If you ran 200mg wk for a year vs 100mg wk then obviously you will gain more because of your total T. Especially if you use unleashed to up your free T. But its not the same as short term cycling.
There again...my bro ran 900mg wk of prop for 2 years(yes really). He went from 6'3" 290 at apx 18% to the same body fat at 335 lb.
I just continue to "slowly" climb the slope that have designed especially for the goals I set out to achieve, which I plan on peaking around mid-July. I'm not in hurry and I'm not going to do anything out of haste and throw a wrench into the machine, which will make the machine malfunction.
I started my cycle, which I think I mentioned a little about. I started out with low doses in order to get the most out of the drugs and gradually build muscle with that dose. Once hormonal adaption occurs and my body composition has become stagnant I will up my doses in conjuction with upping my protein and carb intake. Steroids taken correctly can increase protein synthesis; they work by stimulation of receptor molecules in muscle cells, which activate specific genes to produce proteins. They also affect the activation rate of enzyme systems involved in protein metabolism, thus enhancing protein synthesis and inhibiting protein degradation.
With the enhancemnet of protein synthesis via steroids I will gradually up protein intake to 75 grams every 2 1/2, 6-8 meals a day. I don't believe that myth about the most protein one can take is 50 grams every 2-3 hours; through my own experience, if I gradually up protein intake by letting my body grow through adaption and not overloading my system all at once I will eventually be able to utilize large amounts of protein at one time, which is what I want to pack on quality muscle, and simultaneously lose body fat. Roids increase nitrogen retention by allowing for better utilization of the nitrogen ingested protein. In order for a person to accumulate extra muscle mass, their body must be in a state of positive nitrogen balance; more nitrogen must come into the body than is lost. In other words, if you are a competitve BB and are looking to pack on muscle, and you engage in vigorous weight training you will make it your business to take in protein every 2-3 hours to keep in a "anabolic state." In conclusion, in my opinion if you are trying to be a competitve BB you should incorporate nitrogen rich food throughout the day and night, in order to pack on quality muscle. Now, this is a "process" that does not happen overnight, which is why many start the race and few finish. Just my opinion, it does not matter to me what another man does nor the manner he does it in.
Trained legs today. The gym was empty, which was expected on a Sunday; so I cranked up Zeppelin and murdered my quads. I mixed things up just a bit. Instead of squatting first I did leg presses, which worked out well because my legs were nice and warmed up to do heavy squats. I did 12 sets for quads and 6 sets for hams @ sort of high velocity and high reps, which got the blood flowing and gave me a nice pump.. No need to be an extremist, there are enough them to go around. I like to look at myself as being an artist and not a weekend warrior!
It's all good, the Marines have landed...
I started my cycle, which I think I mentioned a little about. I started out with low doses in order to get the most out of the drugs and gradually build muscle with that dose. Once hormonal adaption occurs and my body composition has become stagnant I will up my doses in conjuction with upping my protein and carb intake. Steroids taken correctly can increase protein synthesis; they work by stimulation of receptor molecules in muscle cells, which activate specific genes to produce proteins. They also affect the activation rate of enzyme systems involved in protein metabolism, thus enhancing protein synthesis and inhibiting protein degradation.
With the enhancemnet of protein synthesis via steroids I will gradually up protein intake to 75 grams every 2 1/2, 6-8 meals a day. I don't believe that myth about the most protein one can take is 50 grams every 2-3 hours; through my own experience, if I gradually up protein intake by letting my body grow through adaption and not overloading my system all at once I will eventually be able to utilize large amounts of protein at one time, which is what I want to pack on quality muscle, and simultaneously lose body fat. Roids increase nitrogen retention by allowing for better utilization of the nitrogen ingested protein. In order for a person to accumulate extra muscle mass, their body must be in a state of positive nitrogen balance; more nitrogen must come into the body than is lost. In other words, if you are a competitve BB and are looking to pack on muscle, and you engage in vigorous weight training you will make it your business to take in protein every 2-3 hours to keep in a "anabolic state." In conclusion, in my opinion if you are trying to be a competitve BB you should incorporate nitrogen rich food throughout the day and night, in order to pack on quality muscle. Now, this is a "process" that does not happen overnight, which is why many start the race and few finish. Just my opinion, it does not matter to me what another man does nor the manner he does it in.
Trained legs today. The gym was empty, which was expected on a Sunday; so I cranked up Zeppelin and murdered my quads. I mixed things up just a bit. Instead of squatting first I did leg presses, which worked out well because my legs were nice and warmed up to do heavy squats. I did 12 sets for quads and 6 sets for hams @ sort of high velocity and high reps, which got the blood flowing and gave me a nice pump.. No need to be an extremist, there are enough them to go around. I like to look at myself as being an artist and not a weekend warrior!
It's all good, the Marines have landed...
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I think the myth everyone tried to push on us all was that and more than 30 g of protein at a time was a waste. Which is obviou horse shit because we would need to eat 15 times a day.
This thread kicks ass!!! There is so much intelligent information and theory behind AAS, great information for all to read, Led is one educated man...this is priceless folks!!!
TheRippedReverend
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900 of Prop!? Yowwzers. 335!! Nfl status. Like to see him jeez.
Yea, I think alot miss that we can only use what bioavalible
TheRippedReverend
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Am super interested in the tappering of AAS I heard this what the best method
Then the worst everyone talks about the roller coaster theroy
Then the worst everyone talks about the roller coaster theroy
people are fucking dumb.
Tapering is good and bad. For noobs and general hobby guys its a bad idea and not necessary.
For a 5-6 mos cycle kinda like Led is doing it can be utilized. He's been off a while so he will respond to X amount. Then as he begins to stagnate he bumps X by a percentage as he adapts receptor wise and nutritionally. Its a great way to utilize gear instead of just taking a gram of something.
Why I always advice new guys to run 250mg wk instead of 500. Why start at double what will work really well.
fifo_thekid
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can you please elaborate on using Lasix for bulking up. I can't seem to find anybody using it for a purpose other than contest preparation. thanks
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