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Last night dinner =$1240.00 Tip = $3.00

jnevin said:
At higher end places it's normal and expected for a manager to be making rounds and asking how everything is. The shitty service in this case wasn't the manager's immediate fault. The server screwed herself. It was a group effort on this one. The server sucked, she stood around doing nothing, talking to co-workers while AAP got up to get drinks from the bar. The manager screwed up by not noticing what went on and should have visited a high roller table to make sure they came back and had more dinners like that there.

Exactly
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
I eat out 21 meals a week.



Holy fuckstick. What they hell do you do that enables this. Sometimes its hard for me to justify 2 meals a week.


And BTW, a waitress NEVER gets more than 10 bucks from me. There is only so much a service like this is worth. Me and my girls meal was 150? 20 bucks, max. No way in fucking hell id leave a 240 dollar tip on a 1200 dollar meal, no matter how good the service was. Thats like paying someone 240 bucks to wash your car, cut your hair...etc.

IMO, service charges should be part of the meal bill, not seperate, but that doesnt mean i wont tip. Ill stop tipping when the system changes and they make a decent salary.
 
AAP said:
No, a low class move would be to reward her for lack of attention.

There is nothing in a resturant guideline that says I have to be responsible for her livelihood. Consider :

gra·tu·i·ty ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gr-t-t, -ty-)
n. pl. gra·tu·i·ties
A favor or gift, usually in the form of money, given in return for service.


Note the "in return for service" part. We got no service. If she wanted a tip, why wasn't she working for it.

She was not overworked and had more tables to handle than she could manage.
She was not seating other people and doing other errands.
She was not bringing food to tables and such.

She was socializing. She was at this other table, often squatting down and holding on to the edge to be sneaky so she wasn't spotted. She was laughing and talking and just "omg"ing it up and "nooooo, he did what?"

We had BAD SERVICE. Plain and simple. Not bad food. I paid for that. Not bad drinks, I paid for that. But her service sucked. I have been here probably 15 times before and NEVER have I had the chef to bring out the entrees. What the fuck kind of resturant has their CHEF bringing out salads, water glasses and coffee?

So I am suppose to tip her for that?
ther have been times when I tipped the waiter/waitress and the chef
in this circumstance the chef should have got ~177
 
NO, you weren't wrong, waitstaff has to earn their tip....that's why it's called a tip.

For further reassurance you were in the right, do yourself an entertaining favor and watch the diner scene from Reservoir Dogs. ;)
 
i would have fought her in the parking lot after she got off work.
a good beat down would teach her the value of good service
 
you were only wrong if you didnt express what the problem was. like if u told the manager the waitress suciked her left her a note or told her she was a jackfuck, and THEN tipped her trash, i agree.

otherwise u just seem like a cheapass and shell keep fucking up


EDITED BY SHADOW.....



dont be a dick
 
in some form or another your table got served
the bottles to other tables got delivered
(not to mention the peculair situation you placed a server in by sending a bottle to a table to "show up" some guy)
over the course of your "dining experience" all your demands were met
perhaps not by the lolly-pop server you chose to stiff
but there were ample opportunites to "thank" those that did so
your recollection of the events expresses that you were well aware of who did what
and whatnot
 
velvett said:
She received a LIFE LESSON.

I respectfully disagree.

As you know, people only receive a life lesson when the knowldege comes from a source they trust. Most people tend to rationalzie away behavior that could make them look bad - this is largely a defense mechanism that requires self study to overcome. (I've written about this shit, forgive me if I ramble)

Thus, when the server sees the $3 tip, she will not think "I fucked up" but will instead think "What a table full of cheap assholes!"

She will rationalize the problem as AAPs (and his group's), not hers. People do this all the time, to their detriment.

In order for her to receive a life lesson, she has to hear the criticism from a credible source against which there is no rationalization. Getting a stern talking-to or worse, dismissed, by her manager would have killed the rationalization mechanism. There would have been no one else to blame.

The manager would speak with a voice of credibility. if AAP had tipped her fully, he would have removed himself as a possible defense mechanism against her rationalizing. By talking to the manager, SOMETHING would have happened to the server. That's - as you know - how high end eateries are.

Then, you have a life lesson learned. Here, she just blames AAP and will do it again.

Your fee for that wisdom:

No charge. :)
 
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