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I learned a lot from my Dad. He died 2.5 years ago. Green beret, which is rare. You can FUCK OFF!!!

You keep talking a lot of shit. I'm older than you, live in Dallas, from Oklahoma City. You want to continue your shit, bring it to Dallas.

And "lerned" is really "learned". Is that the democrat or illegal way to spell it? Or the California way? Boxer and nancy?

Bring your shit to Dallas and u will not last 4 mins.

Let me know asshole.

Was it something I said? **grin**
 
Was it something I said? **grin**
I dunno. You said something about his dead / decomposing father?

Maybe it's because you posted an 80s picture of Iraq to show that his Dad was just a utility for the government? Or is the term "expendable asset"?

Maybe he didn't understand the humor in the picture as it contrasted with his viewpoint? He completely missed it?

Maybe it's because (it appears) that his ability (and vocabulary) is limited and thus reduces his ability to "defend" oneself. Due to that, the challenge resorts to violence?


I could see why he might be touchy.


Maybe he needs a little more time.
 
**sigh** Not sure why I should even bother. Obama wants the MB? Are you for real? The Right and the Left want the MB!!! WAKE THE FUCK UP!!! Both sides want instability in the region fercrissakes! If the dumbest of the dumb are voting Dem, the every bit as dumb as the dumbest of the dumb are voting Rep. Lemme guess...You "lerned" your politics from your daddy and TV, yeah? Ever bother to crack open a book that wasn't written my Beck, Limbaugh, or O'Reilly? Probably not. You're way out of your league kiddo.

Dave come on man... I hear a lot of shit talk from you and absolutely zero statement of fact. This whole quote is speculation and conspiracy theory. You keep acting so much more educated than everyone yet you seem to be the only one that doesn't pay attention to the facts.
 
What advantage do you see with backing Israel in the region? What direct goods or services to they provide and how does that compare with how much money is spent on them?

You want them on your side? They're on their OWN side. Besides, you could always glass the entire region.



How bad could it be? You have no idea how it will be. You have the fear mongering that has occurred over the past little while and the amount of blowback that has occurred over the years. I think that the US will save a boatload of money and get out of debt.


Take a look again at the Osama tapes. He said that he's attacking the US because they are getting in the Middle East. I've got no issue with defending a person's country but within the country.

Why do you want to be the world's police when there are problems in the backyard? Shouldn't they be taken care of first?

I agree with you actually from some perspective. Although "glassing" the entire region isn't something I see as an option. Hell some countries might need it more than others but as far as having decent humans as allies, there aren't a lot to come by in the middle east, and I mean that as far as the leaders who represent the countries, not all the people living there as they obviously have no control over their dictators. Hmmm..... Sounds a bit like the USA under the Obama administration.
 
I agree with you actually from some perspective. Although "glassing" the entire region isn't something I see as an option. Hell some countries might need it more than others but as far as having decent humans as allies, there aren't a lot to come by in the middle east, and I mean that as far as the leaders who represent the countries, not all the people living there as they obviously have no control over their dictators. Hmmm..... Sounds a bit like the USA under the Obama administration.
I'm not saying that people will "glass" right out of the gate, but I am saying that it does not directly impact me if it does happen.

There will always be casualties and unintended consequences. Some people died under Regan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama. People never deserve it, but it happened.

The part that I've always found interesting / offensive is when one side tries to proclaim that their side is better then the other. For example, you complain about Obama. Would it have been any different if McCain won? Would it truly be any better if one side or the other wins? How do you measure "better"? How would you know?

What do you truly know about how it feels to be under a dictator? How can you compare a democratically elected leader with a dictator? It downplays your viewpoint.

My view is that there are underlying problems that prevent either side from making a difference. Many of the positions on either side sound the same. Instead of progress, we seem to get political theater.

Paul's world view was drastically different then the others. It would show a change.
 
I'm not saying that people will "glass" right out of the gate, but I am saying that it does not directly impact me if it does happen.

There will always be casualties and unintended consequences. Some people died under Regan, Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Obama. People never deserve it, but it happened.

The part that I've always found interesting / offensive is when one side tries to proclaim that their side is better then the other. For example, you complain about Obama. Would it have been any different if McCain won? Would it truly be any better if one side or the other wins? How do you measure "better"? How would you know?

What do you truly know about how it feels to be under a dictator? How can you compare a democratically elected leader with a dictator? It downplays your viewpoint.

My view is that there are underlying problems that prevent either side from making a difference. Many of the positions on either side sound the same. Instead of progress, we seem to get political theater.

Paul's world view was drastically different then the others. It would show a change.

Well I can assure you McCain would've known how to be commander and chief infinitely more than Obama. He's like a child playing with toys. But you're right as far as foreign policy goes maybe but conservative principles as far as keeping our economy prosperous and keeping government small and our freedoms BIG, there is a huge difference in who wins. Leaders of all philosophies will use their army towards their own views, but finance and freedom is where the two differ.
 
Dave come on man... I hear a lot of shit talk from you and absolutely zero statement of fact. This whole quote is speculation and conspiracy theory. You keep acting so much more educated than everyone yet you seem to be the only one that doesn't pay attention to the facts.

Fact #1 (of which our good ol' "dallas" boy couldn't seem to connect)...We, the good ol' USA, propped up Saddam Hussein providing WMDs so that he could use them against Iran. We wanted conflict in the region. Conflict in the region gives us every reason to remain there and protect our oil interests. We propped up the Shah of Iran because he was in our back pocket, but he wasn't the people's favorite, nor was he elected by the people. Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan (see my comments on China and mineral rights and our soldiers protecting their rights). If you think I'm throwing this out as speculation, you're the one not paying attention.
 
Dave, thanks for your service bro, but you aren't even sounding like an American in his thread.

No need to thank me. If I had to do it all over again knowing what I know, I wouldn't have served. I refuse to be a tool for the corporate/media/govt machine. Keep in mind that from 1978 to 2003 I was a staunch Republican. I voted party line...but then my paradigm changed. I began asking myself "What if I'm wrong?". So I set out to learn. What I found I did not like. I realized that the Republican Party had been hijacked by nutjobs. I began to see how my "fellow" Republicans felt that the Republican Party could do no wrong and it was the Dems who were "Evil Personified". I began to see how there wasn't much difference between the two parties.

The more I read/researched, the more disgusted I became. Availing oneself of the truth is not always fun and games. I see it here and I waste no time. Anyone who believes that it's one party and not the other is simply a partisan hack...a tool...a rube.

Try reading some Napolitano and see for yourself. For starters try "Constitutional Chaos: What Happens When Government Breaks Its Own Laws" and "A Nation of Sheep"...It'll open your eyes...and hopefully your mind.
 
No need to thank me. If I had to do it all over again knowing what I know, I wouldn't have served. I refuse to be a tool for the corporate/media/govt machine. Keep in mind that from 1978 to 2003 I was a staunch Republican. I voted party line...but then my paradigm changed. I began asking myself "What if I'm wrong?". So I set out to learn. What I found I did not like. I realized that the Republican Party had been hijacked by nutjobs. I began to see how my "fellow" Republicans felt that the Republican Party could do no wrong and it was the Dems who were "Evil Personified". I began to see how there wasn't much difference between the two parties.

The more I read/researched, the more disgusted I became. Availing oneself of the truth is not always fun and games. I see it here and I waste no time. Anyone who believes that it's one party and not the other is simply a partisan hack...a tool...a rube.

Try reading some Napolitano and see for yourself. For starters try "Constitutional Chaos: What Happens When Government Breaks Its Own Laws" and "A Nation of Sheep"...It'll open your eyes...and hopefully your mind.

Do you really have to align yourself with a party?

Shouldn't you vote for who you think will give the best direction of the choices available?
 
Do you really have to align yourself with a party?

Shouldn't you vote for who you think will give the best direction of the choices available?
Ask Jack or Dallasboy that question. I will no longer prostitute my convictions and be complicit in the clusterfuck we're in now.
 
i wasn't being a wise guy

i know next to nothing about politics, i was looking for sum insight

In that case, I will answer...

Aligning oneself with a particular party really depends upon the rules set down by the state party. For example, During a presidential campaign, if I were to want to vote for a Republican candidate in the Primary (the election to select the party candidate for the general election), I have to be a registered Republican.

Case in point...In the last election I temporarily registered Republican so that I could vote for Ron Paul in the Primary. The next day, I reregistered Libertarian because in the general election, regardless of one's political party affiliation, one can vote for any presidential candidate.

I hope that made sense. If not, let me know and I'll cite other examples.
 
Well I can assure you McCain would've known how to be commander and chief infinitely more than Obama.
Speculation and conjecture. McCain was a doddering old fool that knew nothing of the fiscal crisis we were facing. Under his watch we'd still be in Afghanistan, Iraq, going after Iran,...oh wait...ummm...**grin**

What's next, Romney is going to lead this nation to economic prosperity and bring about a surplus in his first year? Romney will stand for the Middle Class and Joe Six Pack, right? LOL! Jack...Who is/was Romney's biggest contributors to his campaign?
 
I'm a pretty die-hard libertarian myself.

I think the only chance the movement has is to starve the government of revenue. If you want to put out a fire, you have to deny it oxygen.
 
odd, I'm a new self proclaimed die-hard libertarian too!

Welcome my brother. Fight the good fight and NEVER compromise your convictions. May I offer a suggestion? Become a "student" of the US Constitution. Read it, ask questions, take it in...you will then know why those of us who were fooled for so long are so vehement in our politics.

"We won't get fooled again!"
 
Welcome my brother. Fight the good fight and NEVER compromise your convictions. May I offer a suggestion? Become a "student" of the US Constitution. Read it, ask questions, take it in...you will then know why those of us who were fooled for so long are so vehement in our politics.

still great to be able to voice your dismay, no?
 
odd, I'm a new self proclaimed die-hard libertarian too!

Does this mean our meat-up is now inevitable?

Does our newly-aligned political views mean you're moving to teh castle?

Should I tell my wife that my life is about to change?
 
But you're right as far as foreign policy goes maybe but conservative principles as far as keeping our economy prosperous and keeping government small and our freedoms BIG, there is a huge difference in who wins. Leaders of all philosophies will use their army towards their own views, but finance and freedom is where the two differ.

What are your thoughts for/against CALEA, FISA, PATRIOT, and the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007, more specifically the Posse Comitatus Act?

You talk of keeping gov't small and our freedoms BIG, so this should be easy for you.
 
still great to be able to voice your dismay, no?

Truth be told...The dismay I feel in my heart makes me mourn the loss of a once great nation that I grew up in. I can remember when I could run UNHINDERED to the gate at the airport to greet my grandparents arrival.
 
Truth be told...The dismay I feel in my heart makes me mourn the loss of a once great nation that I grew up in. I can remember when I could run UNHINDERED to the gate at the airport to greet my grandparents arrival.

tr69

lot of changes in our lifetime (I'm old too)
 
That's right liberals: Dallasboy is back and it is still so disappointing you fuckers can justify voting liberal/dems. Odumbo has put us in $5 Trillion more in debt! Capisce? Or can you say Capisce? That seems pretty big. Or at least that's what she said...

Seriously?? Your leaders are beta Harry Reid and boxer (box would be better about 30 years the younger) and pelosi?? A bunch of liars and power hungry sluts/assholes.

Like I said...you can tell a democrat when they walk in the room: Pansies.

I'll sum up once again: Republicans want what makes this Country work based on Individual rights and the States that our Constitution laid out. If you want to drink a soda...you can. If your Daughter wants to sell lemonade, she can. You want to start a business without massive red tape, you can. That's the Republican way.

Also, I'll give a little history lesson: the Republicans freed the slaves in the House and Senate in 1865. It was blocked by the democrats for 8 years. And MLK was one of the best Republicans of all time. But you will never hear that. The media does not want the democrat voters to know that MLK was a Republican and one of the best fighter for rights of the sovereign individual. Does anyone else know the KKK was started by the democratic party?? Of course not, but the dems have done a good job of blaming the republicans as racists.

As a republican, I am pissed at the liberal dems calling me a racists when I have no feelings at all about that!! The racist are the democrats. When they can't win an argument, they call you a racists. You don't agree with them, they assault you as a racists. Ugh.

Democrats want to blame, place racism, union blow-jobs ( did you see Stockton, CA file bankruptcy today? Which had the $700M bill from the unions.), illegal immigration votes and guberment handouts to stay in power. Pathetic.

Democrats want massive guberment, massive taxes, basically European socialism to continue to buy votes. Whether from guberment handouts ( food stamps are all owned by odumbo, welfare, etc) or illegal votes, they will sell down stream the American People for votes. Obmbo and Holder have declared war on Arizona and the US Citizens there.

Who would ever think the federal guberment would sell out there own citizens? Oh, wait....the democrats did for federal power.

You have been warned.

But the real reason is the eventual World guberment that the liberal socialist want ( which is the democrats here in the States). JFK would be considered a Republican based on the leftist democrats today.

The biggest threat to what the Great United States of America is the left/democrats who hide behind class warfare, racism, unions, and illegals.

The sad thing is that the majority of the democrat voters just have no clue. They think odumbo and bite-me really care about them.

Here is one more stat: So the dems are all about the middle class and the war on poverty: Why is the middle class so in the trenches and the poverty rate so high? The total spent on poverty since LBJ declared the war on it is $11 Trillion. So about 80% of our debt is on poverty and we just recorded the worst level of poverty ever.

Obumbo really knows how to handle the job. Socialism always fails, but it is disguised for elite power of the lefties.

It's time for the democrat voters to open their eyes and see what is going on.

But for the sake of the USA, we all have to do something to save what made this Country great. Old and young. But this debt will crush us and we cannot keep this path of politicians bullshiting us all.

Dallasboy
 
Welcome my brother. Fight the good fight and NEVER compromise your convictions. May I offer a suggestion? Become a "student" of the US Constitution. Read it, ask questions, take it in...you will then know why those of us who were fooled for so long are so vehement in our politics.

I dont think this guy will fit I in here, actually knowing the constitution, and looking for real answers?!?!?







Simlpy Dave has come here with his gear on and fitted
 
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I'll sum up once again: Republicans want what makes this Country work based on Individual rights and the States that our Constitution laid out. If you want to drink a soda...you can. If your Daughter wants to sell lemonade, she can. You want to start a business without massive red tape, you can. That's the Republican way.

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I think that's the main problem.

The items that you've stated aren't the "Republican" way.

Take a look what the Republicans have done.

For example, if that was the Republican way, then why do the businesses get bailouts?

Should banks or anyone else be able to survive by themselves?

Why did they continue the subsidies for wheat or corn?

Why bother telling a woman if she can or can't have an abortion? Why is this even a topic for discussion? Isn't it her body?

Why bother to have any laws on marriage (gay or straight)? Why are some Republican areas violently opposed to it? If it's individual rights, then why does it matter?

Why does the Patriot Act exist? Why is there wiretapping without a warrant? Why did the Republicans and the Democrats vote that in?

Why do churches get tax breaks? Are you free to practice your own religion as long as I don't have to pay for it?

Why does ACTA and SOPA exist? What about individual freedoms?

Aren't these part of the Republican way that you speak about?

If they are, they don't seem to be endorsed by the "Republicans" out there. They seem to want more control for the larger businesses and less control for the people, no?


To blame it on left or the right is nonsensical because it seems that they are pushing the same agenda (ie Bush enabled wiretapping, Obama went further with it). To call out the one side without the other seems biased.


Are you truly saying that the current state of the Right can do no wrong?
 
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