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fistfullofsteel
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He is ugly but seems like a nice guy. He wouldn't get far in Newark because there would a competition to see who can shoot him first.
Lestat said:
He will be unbeatable soon....he kicked the shit out of Tank Abbot!!!
redsamurai
Banned
His days of fighting at 260 are over. If he's going to be a serious cage fighter.........he realized he didn't have the wind at 260-270. As entertaining as he's going to be........he's not going to go far. He'll get a UFC shot.....Dana likes someone who will put on a good show. He won't be holding a belt though.....at least not in the ufc.
redsamurai said:
How wrong are you my friend! you have to understand something about fighting. Speed and endurance and skills go so far. But when someone has brute untamed strength, and then learns those skills, he becomes a frickin awesome fighting machine and a potential champ.
PICK3 said:Who hasn't
Well, Tank Abbot isn't a weakling either. Kimbo's debut, he wipes the floor with him! He's got a future with UFC.
PICK3 said:
We'll see....I think he won't be losing for a long time.
redsamurai
Banned
the_alcatraz said:
watch the Gannon fight........Kimbo was clearly stronger than Gannon, but Gannon just weathered the storm and after 3 minutes Kimbo looked like he was going to die from exhaustion. Did you see Lesnar/Mir? Not that Lesnar got tired, but he got massively outskilled by a guy whom he was 10 times stronger than. So I'm sorry, if you're going to hold a UFC belt.......you kind of have to be a more balanced fighter than Kimbo is "right now". Fedor is, or was, the quintessential fighter in terms of that balance. "Controlled" aggression........that's what wind championships in the MMA game today. The day's of coming out of the blocks and steamrolling someone are over.........if Lesnar couldn't do it, no one can. Just to be clear, Lesnar is 100x the athlete that Kimbo will "ever" be.........but Kimbo is a much better striker.
Razorguns said:
I grew up fighting on the streets and when I started fighting official tournaments, I wiped the floor with them.
Street cred in fighting is nothing to joke around with. On the streets, it's no holds barred...no rules...no referee....no tv and coach where you can sit on your ass and watch others fight. You're there, you're fighting or you're beaten the crap out of....that strength, that's heart!
A street fighter will always have the advantage over a ring fighter once he learns proper fighting skills....
Heart and balls are the two most important things a fighter can have....without them, there's no way he'll ever be champ.
redsamurai
Banned
the_alcatraz said:
very true statement. In fact, heart and balls will get you a contract with Dana White over your win/loss record.
Razorguns
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the_alcatraz said:
If you're a GREAT street fighter - you should be winning UFC championships with your eyes closed then, right? Where's your millions?
Street Boxer vs World Champion Boxer.
Heard it all.
If Kimbo is so great - go start moving up in the ranks, and EARN his right to fight a Shamrock, Tito, etc.
Until then - it's all just hype and b.s. Anyone can do that. That's called 'marketing'. His resume is very unimpressive.
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Kano
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the_alcatraz said:
you are so right bro .. just wait till brock lesnar gets it donw he will be unstoppable !!!!
Razorguns said:
1- Who says I'm a great fighter? I used to get paid money for beating people like you with a big mouth on the street. That's it. I was a good fighter, but I never competed in really big championships, the things you have in mind. Your arguments are worse than that of a 12-yr old arguing on why he should have ice cream for dinner.
2- I was talking about Kimbo, not about myself, if you don't know how to argue, learn. Don't attack me because you can't argue with me, or I'll start attacking you, you brainless sorry excuse for a man.
3- How is it hype? Do you know what that means? Hype is a word used when someone says they've got something, but never show it, or when they claim to have an ability, but they dnt prove it and it remains to be discredited. Kimbo had a million street fights, regardless of whether his fights took place on the street or the ring, he won! So it's no hype.
Wtf is all that hype around Kimbo ? Guy is like 35 and won nothing yet except a few bum fights here and there. Still, you have groupies posting about how great Kimbo is and how no one can touch him. WTF ??? Are you guys drunk ? This is not Fedor nor Tyson, this is a 35 yr old bum backed by a porno crew...
manny78 said:
I understand what you're saying, but I'm tellin you I've known so many fighter and I've fouhg for so long that you can always spot a winner out of the crowd. Kimbo will have a future, once he gets his act together.
kano said:
Lstner also has a future if he gets his shit together...incredible brute strength and freakish size....he will refine his skills and get really good at UFC.
manny78 said:
At least we should give him the benefit of the doubt. He is the underdog, yes. But that doesnt mean an underdog can't won. It's happened many times that brute strength and power defeats strategy, experience and skill.
manny78 said:
hell yhe! I like the way your mind works....but Tyson will lose! He's washed up and doesnt have the animal in him anymore.
Razorguns
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the_alcatraz said:
Society doesn't respect people until they've accomplished something remarkable. Earned merit.
The neighborhood guitarist.
The actress who plays extras.
The office worker who prints reports all day.
The author who writes stories on the web all day.
Until someone creates proven accomplishments in their field - they really are nothing. Remember, every industry is basically a competition.
Until you bring something to the table, you will NOT get a slice of that pie.
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Razorguns said:
Actually....I agree with you on that. You make a good point. I guess we will wait and see.
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Kano
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tyson could not fight him.,., he would eat him instead
kano said:
actually, he would bite off his ear, then eat his children.
manny78 said:
Look at my siggy!
AAP said:
ololololololololo
Big Rick Rock
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-First off. Any guy who makes a date to fight, and makes it to the event that day and puts up his hands and fights... Deserves respect, win or lose. Because thats more than most of you will ever do.
Its easy to throw a punch at a guy you don't know when you are drunk at a bar. Its a lot harder to make a date to fight with a guy you know, and have to count down the time (months) till you have to face him... That would make many of you shit your pants daily and uncontrollably.
-All this BS talk about "why doesn't Kimbo fight this guy or that guy." You won't see Kimbo get any huge fights for a while. The league that he fights in doesn't have the biggest names on contract(yet). Still, they have some very good fighter, you can expect to see some good matches from him in the future. Just not the world class athletes that are already exclusive to UFC and K1.
-His age... Means shit. 35yrl is PRIME for a MMA fighter. He has enough experience and maturity because of his age. But his body is not totally worn down from competition... I think he has a shot to make a splash for 3-5 years and then retire with some money.
-Unless you KNOW how to read foot work and KNOW what to look for in a fighting style... Unless you can read the combinations being thrown and discern the different setups to moves being made... You should try to keep from passing judgment on anybodies skills... Seriously.
Its easy to throw a punch at a guy you don't know when you are drunk at a bar. Its a lot harder to make a date to fight with a guy you know, and have to count down the time (months) till you have to face him... That would make many of you shit your pants daily and uncontrollably.
-All this BS talk about "why doesn't Kimbo fight this guy or that guy." You won't see Kimbo get any huge fights for a while. The league that he fights in doesn't have the biggest names on contract(yet). Still, they have some very good fighter, you can expect to see some good matches from him in the future. Just not the world class athletes that are already exclusive to UFC and K1.
-His age... Means shit. 35yrl is PRIME for a MMA fighter. He has enough experience and maturity because of his age. But his body is not totally worn down from competition... I think he has a shot to make a splash for 3-5 years and then retire with some money.
-Unless you KNOW how to read foot work and KNOW what to look for in a fighting style... Unless you can read the combinations being thrown and discern the different setups to moves being made... You should try to keep from passing judgment on anybodies skills... Seriously.
Big Rick Rock said:
Love that post bro!
....and I can read most of the above signals...been a fighter for a long time.
Great post. seriously. Kimbo has a lot to show for and he's goin a long way.
Razorguns
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ceo said:Wait! You're saying that authors who write stuff on the web all day are NOT Accomplished????
What about e-books?
If their work has never been translated to a physical form - They won't be appearing on Oprah or The View anytime soon. (Unless their e-books made them $2M a year).
Kinda like going for an IT job and listing "Wrote articles on the internet - or PUBLISHED 5 books on McGraw Hill publishing" on your resume.
The latter makes you 10x more valuable and raise your rates.
I'm a street guitarist.
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redsamurai
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Why didn't he go to like K-1 or something........where it's all standup...?? Even then, how's he going to deal with a kick artist? I guess I"m just not seeing the potential that all of you are seeing. Not for a prolonged MMA career at least. Just watch guys in the bush leagues of MMA, there's a certain "skill set" that is emerging..........and Kimbo doesn't have it. One dimensional fighters are getting taken........no matter how physically gifted they are. Don't get me wrong, it's kind of annoying to see a less physically gifted fighter pull guard and put on an armbar or triangle or whatnot.......but that's just the reality of the game. If you're going to predict title reigns for someone...........it's just not up for discussion, they have to have to be balanced. Look at what happened to crocop..........one dimensional. And if you want to compare opponents and win/loss records between crocop and Kimbo.......go right ahead. One guy came up fighting fat and out of shape run of the mill joes.........the other fought the who's who of the MMA world and knocked a good majority of them the fuck out. These dude's who are in their 30's have been fighting since they were teenagers and training the skill set's that are coming out today. Kimbo is just so far behind the learning curve that by the time he could possibly know something, he's in his mid 40's.
That all being said, Kimbo may very well make alot of money in the MMA game because he's at least fun to watch.........if they put him in the ring with Lesnar, I would absolutely pay for that fight.
That all being said, Kimbo may very well make alot of money in the MMA game because he's at least fun to watch.........if they put him in the ring with Lesnar, I would absolutely pay for that fight.
Razorguns
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redsamurai said:
The Kimbo camp have NO DESIRE to put him in any type of legitimate league.
Think about it. Imagine if he starts at the bottom (to be fair to every other fighter, remember I said 'legitimate') and gets his ass beat from day one.
Kimbo money trail == over.
Much more $$ lucrative to keep up the hype, and sell him as a novelty. And get PPV's, Videos, whatever. And keeping him out of any position where his skills could be tested for all to see.
Didn't some EF guy who had real legitimate fighting skills and legitimate track record, emailed his camp for a live legitimate fight. And they turned him down?
I don't think he posts here anymore. He was in Florida.
That should tell you something.
LOL at fighting Tank Abbot. I know ex-military brazilian kickboxers who could make mincemeat out of Abbot with their eyes closed.
When he proves himself like every other fighter has (tyson, ali, tito, shamrock, lennox) - people will start listening. Until then, he's just a gimmick.
Jean Claude Van Damme has more a legitimate track record than Kimbo.
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JumpBallWinner
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Already posted my feelings about this guy....
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/kimbo-584143-4.html#post7954394
I really can't wait for him to fight a world class fighter so I can see the look on his face afterwards, if he's even awake
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/kimbo-584143-4.html#post7954394
I really can't wait for him to fight a world class fighter so I can see the look on his face afterwards, if he's even awake
Big Rick Rock
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To end my participation in this thread I will say the following...
Bas Rutten has endorsed Kimbo slice as the real deal. Bas has tons of guys with contracts knocking down his door to train with him. If he says Kimbo is the real deal. I believe him.
Whether or not Kimbo is ready to fight world-class MMA fighters, remains to be seen as his skills get better. One thing is for sure. The guy is not taking this opportunity lightly. He is training his ass off trying to be the best fighter he can be...
Some decent vids here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xes4QVKB55Q&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iDIHeSx6jiM&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_KIHxcfQnwI&feature=related
This is my last post on this thread.
I do like talking MMA with you fine folks, but I hate being on the same threads as Razorguns. He doesn't know what he is talking about more than half of the time. But makes an effort to put on a good act. Its annoying as shit and dilutes any legitimate info that can be shared.
Bas Rutten has endorsed Kimbo slice as the real deal. Bas has tons of guys with contracts knocking down his door to train with him. If he says Kimbo is the real deal. I believe him.
Whether or not Kimbo is ready to fight world-class MMA fighters, remains to be seen as his skills get better. One thing is for sure. The guy is not taking this opportunity lightly. He is training his ass off trying to be the best fighter he can be...
Some decent vids here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Xes4QVKB55Q&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iDIHeSx6jiM&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_KIHxcfQnwI&feature=related
This is my last post on this thread.
I do like talking MMA with you fine folks, but I hate being on the same threads as Razorguns. He doesn't know what he is talking about more than half of the time. But makes an effort to put on a good act. Its annoying as shit and dilutes any legitimate info that can be shared.
Razorguns
Well-known member
Big Rick Rock said:
lol.
You can say what you want. I don't give a shit.
Jean Claude Van Damme has a more legitimate record than Kimbo.
I'll also end it with this:
When Kimbo has a LEGITIMATE career, has LEGITIMATE accomplishments - please let me know.
Until then, the "he is so good, he is endorsed by so and so, he is skilled in so and so" - Who gives a shit?
I'm a street guitarist. I'm waiting for my phone call from Carlos Santana.
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Razorguns said:
You are a street guitarist, probably a good one, however, there are a million street guitarists out there who have more talent that u
Kimbo slice is a street figher - he is the best street fighter out there
I agree completely with what Big rick rock has said
You and a few others in this thread who so arrogantly bash Kimbo slice, you wouldnt even have the guts to lift up your arms to fight, all you do is hide behind your keyboard and bash some guy like he's nothing - he's got a lot more respect in his field that you have in your music field.
Legitimate career? wats legit? all he needs is sm1 important to notice him ad he's legit....besides, legit never gets good marketing...f he come out as a fiery street fighter who joins the UFC, then all eyes on him...they're building up his rep. before he fights officially, so that when he fights for real in he will have the atn. of a gladiator in the ring.
Obviously you dnt knw anthing about fighting so why dnt you go play ur guitar and stop trying to pretend ur a badass.
ghettostudmuffin
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Last I checked Tank Abbot is a legitimate MMA fighter.
Sure, he brawls, but he also happens to be a solid wrestler and hits like mack truck.
Besides looking a little older in that fight he looked like the same Tank as always and he really did swing hard.
Kimbo is progressing. He fought Ray Mercer. Now he's beaten Tank. That's upward progression.
This is the way to go about it.
He has fantastic strength and punching power and he's got real heart. He may be a thug, but he shows respect to his instructors. I've done some mma training and been around the real deal and Kimbo is the real deal.
Brock Lesnar is alot younger and was OWNING Frank Mir and handling him. He dropped Frank twice if I remember right with shots that weren't full power and was doing very good on the ground. Frank essentially was in the fetal position protecting himself. Brock just got caught with a heel hook or whatever by a much more experienced fighter.
My point being, that guy is my pick for future MMA dominator of the sport and I think Kimbo will do well by comparison.
Sure, he brawls, but he also happens to be a solid wrestler and hits like mack truck.
Besides looking a little older in that fight he looked like the same Tank as always and he really did swing hard.
Kimbo is progressing. He fought Ray Mercer. Now he's beaten Tank. That's upward progression.
This is the way to go about it.
He has fantastic strength and punching power and he's got real heart. He may be a thug, but he shows respect to his instructors. I've done some mma training and been around the real deal and Kimbo is the real deal.
Brock Lesnar is alot younger and was OWNING Frank Mir and handling him. He dropped Frank twice if I remember right with shots that weren't full power and was doing very good on the ground. Frank essentially was in the fetal position protecting himself. Brock just got caught with a heel hook or whatever by a much more experienced fighter.
My point being, that guy is my pick for future MMA dominator of the sport and I think Kimbo will do well by comparison.
RearNaked
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Wow...this thread is still being fueled by a bunch of know it alls who have absolutely no mma experience other than their television sets huh? Without getting into it anymore, just here to +1 what BRR posted right here. Other than that, all I see is uneducated opinions.
Remember folks, fighting on the internet is the same shit as the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still fucking retarded.
Big Rick Rock said:
Remember folks, fighting on the internet is the same shit as the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still fucking retarded.
ghettostudmuffin said:
Now that's someone who knows what he's talking about!
Razorguns said:
If I penis fought you, I'd knock you the fuck out 10 secs into the first round.
JumpBallWinner
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If a guy came onto the mma scene, fighting for the company Kimbo fights for, looked the same, had the same ability, had accomplished the same amount so far in his career, yet didn't have the youtube cult status from knocking out complete fat out of shape nobodies in backyards before starting a proffessional career, then the very notion that this guy was anywhere near a championship quality fighter would be deemed pure insanity even by the people currently defending this cat.
When, and IF he ever decides to stop the circus and actually step into the ring with a winning MMA fighter, then I got $500 to lay down against him with whoever wants to take the offer.
This is getting almost as bad as the people who argue that Bruce Lee could really fight and do the shit he did in his movies
When, and IF he ever decides to stop the circus and actually step into the ring with a winning MMA fighter, then I got $500 to lay down against him with whoever wants to take the offer.
This is getting almost as bad as the people who argue that Bruce Lee could really fight and do the shit he did in his movies
GoldenDelicious
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i think that razorgunz' point about kimbos novelty factor has a lot of merit. throwing him into the ring with a big name someone and having the snot beat out of him will dampen kimobos marketing hype - which no one wants.
that kimbos marketing hype at present far exceeds any similarly pegged fighters should NOT detract from his actual potential. like BRR said, bas rutten vouched for, and is training the guy. thats all you really have to know.
i personally dont know why people are so mad. whats happening is great - a nobody from a backyard internet fight is moving up in the world at a rate that is going to get a movie made about him - and all you hear is all this negative shit tearing the guy down. what for? let him go. itll be fun to watch, whether he makes somethign of himself or just ends up blocking peoples punches with his face
that kimbos marketing hype at present far exceeds any similarly pegged fighters should NOT detract from his actual potential. like BRR said, bas rutten vouched for, and is training the guy. thats all you really have to know.
i personally dont know why people are so mad. whats happening is great - a nobody from a backyard internet fight is moving up in the world at a rate that is going to get a movie made about him - and all you hear is all this negative shit tearing the guy down. what for? let him go. itll be fun to watch, whether he makes somethign of himself or just ends up blocking peoples punches with his face
ghettostudmuffin
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Having watched all of Kimbo's fights and pretty much every major broadcast MMA and boxing match in the last 15 years I'm confident when I say I don't think Kimbo will be blocking anyone's punches with his face.
Anyone STUPID enough to strictly slug with the guy is gonna get knocked out REALLY fast.
Maybe some people aren't seeing what I see. My guess is these are people with limited actual fighting experience. He has excellent side to side movement. He can knock people out with a hook, an uppercut or a straight right. He is excellent at setting up his distance. And he probably punches harder than any man in the sport of MMA today that is well known. I can tell just watching his strikes. I'm pretty confident that if he were to strictly box with a guy like PEdro Hizzo that knocked out Tank along time ago and was touted as havign some serious punching power that he would knock Pedro's block off.
You have to be able to read body movement and the way the punches connect. Kimbo throws bombs and they are very accurate. All I'm saying is that his punching ability is probably second to none from what I have seen so far.
I'm not saying anythign else about his grapplign or kickign ability or that he could go into the ring and last a single round with a guy like Fedor. But, for purely boxing I'd put my money on him even over a guy like Fedor believe it or not.
I think people are just hating because they don't like that he came up from a street fighting background and are jealous of the hype and attention he is getting even if they don't realize it.
If he can learn a great take down defense like a guy like Chuck Liddel then he will be a very scary fighter indeed.
Not saying he's the greatest or will rule the sport, but if you can't see his awesoem potential then you have blinders on.
Anyone STUPID enough to strictly slug with the guy is gonna get knocked out REALLY fast.
Maybe some people aren't seeing what I see. My guess is these are people with limited actual fighting experience. He has excellent side to side movement. He can knock people out with a hook, an uppercut or a straight right. He is excellent at setting up his distance. And he probably punches harder than any man in the sport of MMA today that is well known. I can tell just watching his strikes. I'm pretty confident that if he were to strictly box with a guy like PEdro Hizzo that knocked out Tank along time ago and was touted as havign some serious punching power that he would knock Pedro's block off.
You have to be able to read body movement and the way the punches connect. Kimbo throws bombs and they are very accurate. All I'm saying is that his punching ability is probably second to none from what I have seen so far.
I'm not saying anythign else about his grapplign or kickign ability or that he could go into the ring and last a single round with a guy like Fedor. But, for purely boxing I'd put my money on him even over a guy like Fedor believe it or not.
I think people are just hating because they don't like that he came up from a street fighting background and are jealous of the hype and attention he is getting even if they don't realize it.
If he can learn a great take down defense like a guy like Chuck Liddel then he will be a very scary fighter indeed.
Not saying he's the greatest or will rule the sport, but if you can't see his awesoem potential then you have blinders on.
ghettostudmuffin said:
Excellent post bro.
rubberneck
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Can't you just STFU!!!!!the_alcatraz said:
^^ Bad bro material.
ghettostudmuffin
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LOL.
I've trained in MMA and rolled with legit black belts in brazilian jiu jitsu.
I've learned some basic boxing from an olympic silver medalist that happened to be my barber.
I could talk about all the street fights I've been in, but what's the point.
I don't know anything about you other than this response. Looks like I touched a nerve?
gtfo lawlz.
I've trained in MMA and rolled with legit black belts in brazilian jiu jitsu.
I've learned some basic boxing from an olympic silver medalist that happened to be my barber.
I could talk about all the street fights I've been in, but what's the point.
I don't know anything about you other than this response. Looks like I touched a nerve?
gtfo lawlz.
JumpBallWinner
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Originally Posted by ghettostudmuffin
"Maybe some people aren't seeing what I see. My guess is these are people with limited actual fighting experience."
Yea, like Chuck Liddell...
"Maybe some people aren't seeing what I see. My guess is these are people with limited actual fighting experience."
Yea, like Chuck Liddell...
ghettostudmuffin said:
You will come along folks on here that think they can judge because they sit on their ass at home and watch UFC. They can kiss my ass. Until they're in that ring, they can't judge for shit. Don't bother with some fuckers, they'll only piss you off!
redsamurai
Banned
ghettostudmuffin said:
well see there's my point........even a VERY accomplished wrestler like Lesnar got caught by a more accomplished MMA fighter who was "physically" dominated by Brock. This is what I'm talking about when I mention the "skill set" required to "dominate" in today's MMA game. The well rounding that guy's are bringing to the cage nowaday's necessitates "serious" background in striking, wrestling, and bjj.......end of discussion. You can't be great in one and "so so" in the others. Someone is eventually going to get on top of Kimbo and Brock.......than what? That's the litmus test. I can't beleive you guys can watch fighters like Couture, Rampage, Hendo, Nog, GSP and the PLEHTORA of great emerging fighters out there...........and still harbor these fantasies about the comic book looking guys. I'll give them both credit for being hard working mother fuckers who may very well make some noise in the MMA world.......but at "this stage" in both of their careers, to be talking about one or the other "dominating" the sport is just ridiculous.
But who would love to see a fight between those two? Or with Sapp??? Ok, not a showcase the MMA"s "finer points".........but it would be entertaining. And that's what I think is going to be these guys' niches. They may very well put on the best shows, win or lose.........and in the end, for us at least, that may very well better than watching two guys roll around on the floor for 5 rounds.
redsamurai
Banned
ghettostudmuffin said:
Fedor would rock him even in a strictly hands fight.....with MMA gloves though. Fedor has stood in with guys that punch every bit as hard as Kimbo........maybe even harder (crocop). Crocop broke bob sapp's eye socket with "ONE", count "ONE" punch. Bob Sapp is a genetic freak..........even next to Kimbo. That man has to have one of the largest skulls known to man. So beleive it or not.......there are other guys out there that are rocking people to sleep in ways I haven't seen from Kimbo "yet". Heck, I think Rampage could go up to 220-230 and put hands on Kimbo. Rampage fires with power AND speed.........from Kimbo's fights and his training video's.......I'm reminded of Foremans' video's training for Ali. Lot's of power with not a whole lot of speed.
redsamurai said:
You make some good points. Kimbo isn't that fast for a fighter.
redsamurai
Banned
the_alcatraz said:
I do want to clarify that I think Kimbo is entertaining. I mean the bell rings and he comes for you. So I don't see any 5 round championship fights in his future, but who cares. If he proves entertaining, he may very well get a contract from Dana. Right now he probably has a better pay per view draw than any heavy weight in the UFC. And did I see right that he's fighting James Thompson in may?? Holy shit that fight is going to be a blast. That's just a straight limited skill goon fight. The only problem I see with that fight is that if neither one knocks the other out in the first minute......it's going to turn into one of those ogre fights that go the distance but both have mild heart attacks at the end. I don't think either of them is too big on the cardio........so it's another all or nothing fight like the Tank fight was supposed to be.
redsamurai said:
I'm looking forward to it.
JumpBallWinner
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Is Fedor's brother Alexander fighting anywhere now? He doesn't have a ton of fights and is still kinda young, but is talented as hell and might be the most explosive hands striker in the game.
Why aren't him and his brother doing big things in UFC? Are they refusing to fight in it or something?
Why aren't him and his brother doing big things in UFC? Are they refusing to fight in it or something?
redsamurai
Banned
JumpBallWinner said:
Don't know about his brother, but fedor skipped on the UFC because Dana wouldn't "guarantee" him to hold pay per views in Russia. I have no idea why the guy got like that........did pride ever go outside of Japan much? And if they did, did they do so at the behest of one single fighter? You just can't operate like that......Fedor should understand. Why he signed with M1 is beyond me.........who's he going to fight there? Is he even still fighting? It's been awhile since he fought Lindland at bodog.......who isn't even a natural HW anyway. I dunno..........he may have fucked his career by skipping the UFC. Maybe he saw what happened to crocop and wanted no part of the americans??........??
JumpBallWinner
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redsamurai said:
He fought this giant a few months ago I think..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QzX1ZadJM
Really sucks that he won't come to UFC, you'd be amazed at the amount of UFC fans I talk to at the sports bars when the fights are on who have no clue who Fedor even is. Alot of people dont' know who is brother is either. These guys would tear the UFC heavyweights to shreds IMO. Hope they change their mind or can get with Dana and work something out
RearNaked
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RearNaked said:
wtf?
RearNaked said:
I dnt know why I feel like he has a future in UFC if he works on it.
redsamurai
Banned
the_alcatraz said:
The problem with arm-chair coaches is that the guy sitting in the chair has an almost omniscient view of the action and fighters locked in combat do not. An arm-chair coach can understand what is going on from his own near omniscient view of the fight, but the fighters do not have that view. The arm-chair coach is often going to make his judgments of fighters as if the fighters has the same near omniscient view of the action. The arm-chair coach doesn't have to pay attention to what the ref is saying, what his corner is saying, what the opponent's corner is saying, nor deal with the roar of the crowd. The arm-chair coach is also free from the pressure and sheer tension a fighter feels when a man with very bad intentions is actively trying to hurt you.
javaguru
Banned
When I wrestled, I didn't hear a lot from the coach unless it was during rest periods. I considered my "coach corner" an armchair general and I respected their opinion but I ended up doing what I thought I needed to do...I was more concerned about doing what I needed to do as opposed to listening to them..after all my opponent could hear them just as well as me.....Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
I see what you're saying bro, but I listened to my coach outside the ring and in between rounds. When I was fighting, I heard nothing. It was all quite. That's the kinda concentration that I had.
redsamurai
Banned
the_alcatraz said:
that's an interesting perspective. I've only fought outside a ring so I've never had the experience of someone trying to coach you through a fight.......not sure I'd like it. I pretty much don't remember details of my serious fights till at least a day later.............anyone else get that?
manny78 said:
how will the fact that he's backed by porn dudes add to his cred?
the_alcatraz said:how will the fact that he's backed by porn dudes add to his cred?
It's part of the guy's character (almost fictionnal). If you watch the first youtube fights from 2-3 years ago, he always had the crew from MILF hunter with him. They were showing up in their Escalade and Hummers, bragging about the size of their rims and gold chains. Pretty funny. He also made a few appearance in some of their porno flicks.
Many teenagers know who Kimbo is. Now ask them about Sylvia or Fedor.... hummm.... That's why Kimbo has a chance with the UFC.
manny78 said:
Sex sells. Henceforth, he has great marketing
