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good? bad? i remember seeing some negative opinions on tricep kickbacks in this forum. I forgot why though...
 
They do nothing IMO. Atleast for me. Id go with heavy skull crushers , standing extentions,close grip bench,dips and heavy cables to build the triceps.
 
kickbacks don't do much IMO. depends on your goal...if your going for strength i would throw those out ASAP!! tb
 
if you load the weight and lower the the reps you acan get some good bulk in the back of tri from kickbacks
 
Explain?

It seems to work the triceps pretty well. What exactly are you working?

Currently these are in my routine. I don't mind dropping them or subbing something else, though I have trouble getting to the nub of the problem with this exercise.
 
Synpax said:
Explain? Currently these are in my routine. I don't mind dropping them or subbing something else, though I have trouble getting to the nub of the problem with this exercise.
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IMHO..... kickbacks would be akin to something like concentration curls. Why mess with concentration curls when you have much better exercises at your disposal like basic barbell curls, preacher curls, hammers, alternate dumbells curls and incline curls.

So why mess with kickbacks when you can perform more productive exercise like skull crushers, close grip benches, elbows in dips, one arm or two arm french presses.

So again you may be asking well whats wrong with kickbacks and why are the other exercises better. There is nothing "wrong" with kickbacks but without having to get into bio mechanics and physiology and all.....lets just say in all my years of training I have never heard or read anyone say:

" if you want big, strong and powerful triceps do kickbacks "

Catch my drift bro ...............
 
Thanks for the good answer. I wonder how many of my other exercises are worthless. Stuff that covers tris for me are: flat/incline/decline bench, leaning-forward dips, cable-x, tri extensions, and the kickbacks soon to be replaced with smething else.

BTW - what kind of 45 do you use? The one in my picture is a 10mm 1006 from S&W. I own one and love it
 
Synpax said:
BTW - what kind of 45 do you use? The one in my picture is a 10mm 1006 from S&W. I own one and love it
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I have a Colt 45 Gold Cup. It is loaded with Corbon 200 gr. semi jacketed hollow points. These particular Corbons have a 1150 fps muzzle velocity which is pretty high for a 45. The 45 stays under my bed cocked, locked and ready to rock. Hope I never have to use it but better to have and not need than to need and not have..........If you are not familiar with Corbons, all their loads are "Hot" loads and they make em for most if not all calibers.
 
I keep my 10 ready to rock under my pillow too. The safety is on (easy switch), but it has one in the chamber already (and 9 in the clip) and there is no need to cock it - just go single action.

The ammo is too expensive to use for a lot of it recreationally, so I am thinking of getting a 9mm - probably a Glock. Your thoughts?
 
PlatnumKowboy said:
Isn't leaving it cocked bad exspecially for the spring? I'm not positive so correct me if I'm wrong.
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I have never heard that bu that doesn`t mean it isn`t true but I have been doing this over ten years now with this particular gun and the action is still sweet as sugar..........
 
Synpax said:
I keep my 10 ready to rock under my pillow too. The safety is on (easy switch), but it has one in the chamber already
I am thinking of getting a 9mm - probably a Glock. Your thoughts?
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Ditto. I have a thumb safety lever. Just flip the lever with your thumb, press the trigger and BA BOOM !!!

Glock is a good gun no doubt about that but I personally am not a big fan of 9mm. Depends I guess what you want it for. If its just for plinking and target shooting a 9mm will work just fine and the ammo is relatively inexpensive so a good choice on that count, but for home / personal defense I like a heavier and larger diameter round. I don`t want to have to shoot an intruder 3 times to take him down and possibly still have him able to return fire. With a 45, 44, 357, 41 or 10 mm one shot anywhere in the torso and he`s getting slammed to the ground and he ain`t getting up and as sure as doo doo smells bad, he won`t be returning any fire either !!!!

On the other hand that doesn`t mean getting hit with a 9mm is gonna be a walk in the park either and as a matter of fact I wouldn`t want to get hit with a freaking 22 either but the larger rounds are proven "one shot manstoppers".
 
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Yeah, I have superX hollowpoint in mine. 10 bullets ready to rock and a second clip next to it.

But yes, I need a cheaper recreational shoot. It's been sort of my dream date to take a girl shooting with me and the cost of having a good time with 10mm is a little rediculous. Though I did get a pretty good deal at cheaperthandirt.com.
 
Yeah, growing up we had the equipment to do that, but I really don't like having to chase down my casings and would rather just drop ... I don't know $50 for 1000 rounds of 9 or whatever.
 
do you guys use glocks to lift weights somehow? Sorry I'm just a bit confused what this is doing here...
 
casualbb said:
do you guys use glocks to lift weights somehow?
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Yes...its called the Glock to you drop principal :D :D :D

Actually we got somehow sidetracked from tricep kickbacks to handguns........and all this time everyone thought all we knew about was pumping iron !!!! Sheeeesh

Hey Rojas......I do or did some of my own reloading also. I had a small hand held press made by Lee. Its like 18 inches long. Think I can do like 75 rounds an hour. My brother has a hardcore reloader....... he can do a few hundred an hour. I have more 45 and 38 wadcutters for target practice than I know what to do with..........
 
Synpax said:
Thanks for the good answer. I wonder how many of my other exercises are worthless.
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Kickbacks definitely are NOT worthless. There are a ton of exercises that aren't going to put on size & strength as their primary use. Granted, if that is your goal, then they would certainly seem worthless. However, in my opinion, they are a good exercise to perform as a cooldown, say at the end of your routine. I like to do alot of 1 arm lifts, so I throw them in at the end. They are good for getting a burn if performed correctly, and are great for hitting the upper tri/rear delt tie in. I do them very light, with NO SWING(very important), and a pause at the top. That is the way they should be done. If you are going too heavy, causing you to swing your arm, then they are being done incorrectly, and ARE worthless at that point.

I'm not saying this to offend, but if you classify an exersize as "worthless" because they are a shaping exercise, and not a primary Size/Strength lift, then there are a TON of other lifts(imo) that you could put in the same category. Pretty much any cable lift is designed more for shaping, than for mass/strength(for my body anyhow). So do you simply rule those out for that reason? I wouldn't. I prefer to do my s/s lifts at the beginning of my routine(obviously), and then throw stuff like kickbacks, and other shapers in at the end, to get the blood flowing to the area. They(shaping lifts, that aren't for s/s) certainly serve an important purpose. If I only did lifts that were S/S oriented, I probably wouldn't do anything other than straightbar lifts. I also would probably be working on paying off several Chiropractor bills, as well as the surgeons who repaired both my rotator cuffs. That's just me though, but I hope you see my point.
 
Synpax said:
what do you mean, 'shaping'? How is 'shaping' not size?
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he means worthless...LOL! "shape" is determined by genetics--

best tri exercises (imo) to put on size-- heavy JMs, close-grip presses, weighted dips, incline french press...
 
MsBeverlyHills said:


he means worthless...LOL! "shape" is determined by genetics--
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And size & strength isn't, right? No limitations there. Just keep lifting & you'll hit 1000 on the bench any day now. I dont know why you are so arrogant all the time. I've seen your pics. Speaking of lol.
 
Synpax said:
JMs?
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JM Presses.

Hard to describe, but I believe you can find a video or two of the lift.
It's kind of like a skull-crusher to the neck. (Probably a bad description.)

Atomic Punk> The general belief is that you can't change the shape of a muscle. However, you can change the size of the muscle and your overall strength.
This discussion has been re-hashed a million times. A quick search would probably bring a few of them up so you can see the opinions and thoughts of many others on the subject.:)


Joker
 
Atomic Punk said:


And size & strength isn't, right? No limitations there. Just keep lifting & you'll hit 1000 on the bench any day now. I dont know why you are so arrogant all the time. I've seen your pics. Speaking of lol.
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first off buddy, how am I being arrogant??? your info is usually wrong or inaccurate-- Im just trying to correct it.

& hey-- post up your pics-- if your really all that-- I'll certainly take mine off that avatar... deal???
 
Synpax said:
Listen - JM stands for something - what does the JM stand for?
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Jim Morrison from the Doors man....... a far out groovy band from the late 60`s.

Peace Love Dove brother :fro:
 
MsBeverlyHills said:


first off buddy, how am I being arrogant??? your info is usually wrong or inaccurate-- Im just trying to correct it.

& hey-- post up your pics-- if your really all that-- I'll certainly take mine off that avatar... deal???
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Hmmmmmmm......................

For all that read this thread;

MsBeverlyHills is a tremendous athlete and trains hard.
 
PolishHammer1977 said:


Hmmmmmmm......................

For all that read this thread;

MsBeverlyHills is a tremendous athlete and trains hard.
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You must spread your Karma around before giving it to PolishHammer1977 again....hmmm :)

PH77-- thanks :bigkiss:
 
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