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needtogetaas

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What you guys gut planned.Any one trying any thing new? going back to something old? Trying a new pct? Maybe a new product during your cycle? What
have you learned from past cycles and how are you going to apply this to your new cycles?
 
needtogetaas said:
What you guys gut planned.Any one trying any thing new? going back to something old? Trying a new PCT - post cycle therapy - ? Maybe a new product during your cycle? What
have you learned from past cycles and how are you going to apply this to your new cycles?
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This is my second cycle, i did sustanon first so the enathat is new to me.
I learned i did WAY to much my first cycle, Thanks to need2 he put me on the right track
 
gettin_big said:
This is my second cycle, i did sustanon first so the enathat is new to me.
I learned i did WAY to much my first cycle, Thanks to need2 he put me on the right track
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Its all about learning bro. I feel most of us have our own "sweat spot" when it comes to dosing on cycles. I noticed mine drops a lot when I use human grade.
We all learn from each other and experence.
 
I am planning a biggie... This is a rough draft.
wk 1-3 -Anadrol 50mg/day
wk 1 - test prop 100 mg eod
wk1-12 t-400 800 mg/wk
wk 1-10 tren E 600 mg/wk
wk 1-10 masteron E 60 mg/wk

hcg, aromasin throughout
pct..
 
Svengali said:
I am planning a biggie... This is a rough draft.
wk 1-3 -Anadrol 50mg/day
wk 1 - test testosterone propionate 100 mg eod
wk1-12 t-400 800 mg/wk
wk 1-10 trenbolone E 600 mg/wk
wk 1-10 masteron E 60 mg/wk

HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , aromasin throughout
PCT - post cycle therapy - ..
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You already have a kick start with a adrol, and 1 weeks of test prop is useless as tits on a bull. I would drop it or use it to finish the cycle with.
 
When i do this lower does two things might happen

1. if I get the same results (or there abouts) i gonna get kinda pissed.
2. I'm gonna kick my own ass if the #1 statement is true.

If i don't get the same or around the same, I'll actually be happy. It will give me a ball park now to look at.
 
gettin_big said:
When i do this lower does two things might happen

1. if I get the same results (or there abouts) i gonna get kinda pissed.
2. I'm gonna kick my own ass if the #1 statement is true.

If i don't get the same or around the same, I'll actually be happy. It will give me a ball park now to look at.
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We should all start low and move up from there. Finding our sweat spot is the goal. If you fin is and it happens to be low you should be happy not pissed :)
 
My dream soon to come true (In March)

1-12 Test E 500 mg (only injectable i like)
1-3 25 mg dbol
7-12 80mg Var


and PCT

HCG & nolva

not real fancy, but that shit does wonders for me.

The only thing new is the var at 80 mg. i think i would respond well to it and finish a ripped beast.
 
dabuffguy said:
My dream soon to come true (In March)

1-12 testosterone enanthate 500 mg (only injectable i like)
1-3 25 mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone -
7-12 80mg Anavar - oxandrolone -


and PCT - post cycle therapy -

HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - & Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate -

not real fancy, but that shit does wonders for me.

The only thing new is the Anavar - oxandrolone - at 80 mg. i think i would respond well to it and finish a ripped beast.
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Do you always go 3 weeks with dbols and not 4?
 
just started a bulker. nothing special but i am playing with my carbs a bit and experimenting with my calories more than i usually do. i have already accepted i am going to lose definition (for those who want to get big dont be afraid to put on a little fat) and may put on a slight layer but it will be gone before the end of spring and then bang baby!
 
Just recently started bulking. 500mg/week test, 800week/EQ. Do that for 10 weeks, maybe 12 on the EQ. Started it off with 2 weeks of dbol( it's all I had). 10mg of aromasin per day for water, nolva on hand for gyno. Assuming good results, I'll stretch this out till the end of april. Then I'll start cutting. Not set in stone, but probably be tren enth, test phenyl-prop, masteron enth, clen/ECA stack rotated. Possibly T3 if I need it since I'm going to do a competition. A month or so before the competition, switch to short-acting masteron and tren, drop test 2 weeks out. Add in winny last 4 weeks, halo the last 2 weeks. Doses not planned yet, depends on how big I get during my bulker. Oh, if it gets here soon, I may add insulin, Humalog, 5-10iu's post-workout during bulker. Sound ok? Any changes or suggestions are welcome!
 
needtogetaas said:
Do you always go 3 weeks with dbols and not 4?
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yeah, i do. for me as i have found that by 3 weeks end, the test is working just great by itself so i drop the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . i don't feel i need it. the strength stays cuz the test, and then boosts more later on anyway. i feel it is insignificant either way and a little nicer on the liv. my thoughts on that.
 
dabuffguy said:
yeah, i do. for me as i have found that by 3 weeks end, the test is working just great by itself so i drop the Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . i don't feel i need it. the strength stays cuz the test, and then boosts more later on anyway. i feel it is insignificant either way and a little nicer on the liv. my thoughts on that.
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Thats pretty good for you then. Less is better any way. :)
 
8and20 said:
just started a bulker. nothing special but i am playing with my carbs a bit and experimenting with my calories more than i usually do. i have already accepted i am going to lose definition (for those who want to get big dont be afraid to put on a little fat) and may put on a slight layer but it will be gone before the end of spring and then bang baby!
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Have you made a log here on ef about it? maybe in the (my cycles log forum) or in another forum.
 
Tux said:
Just recently started bulking. 500mg/week test, 800week/Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - . Do that for 10 weeks, maybe 12 on the EQ. Started it off with 2 weeks of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ( it's all I had). 10mg of aromasin per day for water, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - on hand for gynecomastia. Assuming good results, I'll stretch this out till the end of april. Then I'll start cutting. Not set in stone, but probably be trenbolone testosterone enanthate, test phenyl-testosterone propionate, masteron testosterone enanthate, Clenbuterol/eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin stack rotated. Possibly T3 if I need it since I'm going to do a competition. A month or so before the competition, switch to short-acting masteron and trenbolone, drop test 2 weeks out. Add in Winstrol - stanozolol last 4 weeks, halo the last 2 weeks. Doses not planned yet, depends on how big I get during my bulker. Oh, if it gets here soon, I may add insulin, Humalog, 5-10iu's post-workout during bulker. Sound ok? Any changes or suggestions are welcome!
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Damn
 
Whoa, gonna run a biggie. first 14 wks as below

Will be 500mg Sustanon per week
1ml tren ace per day
400mg Deca per week
50mg winnies per day
t3,
eca's

At the back end, will run 4 weeks of PGCL, then see where we go from there for summer conditioning.

High protein diet, med carbs low fats, loads of water, vits, minerals, etc.
 
I'm planing out my next cutting cycle very soon
1-12 Test testosterone propionate 100mg EOD
1-8 trenbolone 100 EOD
1-8 Winstrol - stanozolol 50mg ED
1-12 Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - 400mg Week
1-12 Arimidex 1mg EOD
1-8 - Dostinex .
2-6 & 8-12 - HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - 500iu Week

PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy -
Nolvadex & Clomid I'm also going to try out Derma and Sustain for PCT - post cycle therapy - , i've been reading some really good from all the bro's here about to I'm going for it too.
 
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this will be my best bulker yet:
wk 1-4 60mg dbol
wk 1-4 200mg prop eod
wk 1-8 trena ace 150mg eod
wk 1-10 sust 1500mg/week
wk 1-10 600 mg deca/week
wk 11-13 200 mg prop eod

started this cycle on monday. also something new...hgh! started 2ius a day 6 weeks ago, just bumped up to 3ius ed.will take it to 4ius thru rest of cycle.when cycle finishe,back to 2ius ed for the next 8 months.will do another cycle this summer.

start hcg 3 weeks into cycle, 500ius 2 x a week.run thoughout pct.have nova for when the tren kicks in, titties will hurt,got aromasin too. run nova, hcg,clomid,proviron for pct.

started cycle heaviest ever 220. ive been heavier but was on cycle.this is my heaviest b/f 1st poke.hope to see 250, shred down to 230!! yeehaw not for the weak!
 
needtogetaas said:
Its all about learning bro. I feel most of us have our own "sweat spot" when it comes to dosing on cycles. I noticed mine drops a lot when I use human grade.
We all learn from each other and experence.
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sweat spot? mines sually my armpits when im working out :p
 
needtogetaas said:
It just sounds like you will be doing some things people would like to hear about.
:)
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sure thing. the cycle itself is pretty boring but i keep going back 2 what works best 4 me.

1-12 sus 325mg eod
1-4 dbol 40mg ed

THE BIG change is diet. i am playing more with the timing of my carbs and what type as well as a little higher than normal cals. it is kinda long 2 explain from my blackberry but i can later if interested.
 
8and20 said:
sure thing. the cycle itself is pretty boring but i keep going back 2 what works best 4 me.

1-12 sus 325mg eod
1-4 Dianabol - methandrostenolone - 40mg ed

THE BIG change is diet. i am playing more with the timing of my carbs and what type as well as a little higher than normal cals. it is kinda long 2 explain from my blackberry but i can later if interested.
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Thats quite a bit of test bro. Do you ever suffer any sides at that dose, i.e. acne, hair loss, bloat, etc?
 
chestrockwell420 said:
this will be my best bulker yet:
wk 1-4 60mg Dianabol - methandrostenolone -
wk 1-4 200mg testosterone propionate eod
wk 1-8 trena ace 150mg eod
wk 1-10 Sustanon 1500mg/week
wk 1-10 600 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - /week
wk 11-13 200 mg testosterone propionate eod

started this cycle on monday. also something new...human growth hormone - somatropin - ! started 2ius a day 6 weeks ago, just bumped up to 3ius ed.will take it to 4ius thru rest of cycle.when cycle finishe,back to 2ius ed for the next 8 months.will do another cycle this summer.

start HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 3 weeks into cycle, 500ius 2 x a week.run thoughout PCT - post cycle therapy - .have nova for when the trenbolone kicks in, titties will hurt,got aromasin too. run nova, HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - ,clomid,proviron for PCT - post cycle therapy - .

started cycle heaviest ever 220. ive been heavier but was on cycle.this is my heaviest b/f 1st poke.hope to see 250, shred down to 230!! yeehaw not for the weak!
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Are you planning on competing? Thats 2200 mg test for the first 4 weeks. If you add everything else youre probably at 4gs. That is higher than i ever ran for sure. Keep me posted.
 
perryscoon said:
Thats quite a bit of test bro. Do you ever suffer any sides at that dose, i.e. acne, hair loss, bloat, etc?
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acne but very minimal & rare. i tan so when it appens it goes away as quick as it comes.
 
perryscoon said:
Thats quite a bit of test bro. Do you ever suffer any sides at that dose, i.e. acne, hair loss, bloat, etc?
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another thing i have adex on hand but i rarely use it. AI's are over used imo.

as far as the dose it is the only way 2 run sus, go big & eod or go home. takes full advantage of all the esters. sure u can make gains injectng once a week at low doses but u aint taking adantage of it to its full potential. if u r going 2 do that pick a single ester.
 
This is what I have found since juicing again at 44 yrs of age:

Six week cycles are easier to recover.

Hcg does not help me much at all.

Dose of around 1000mgs per week works much better than a little lower ie. 600-800mgs, never went higher. That dose includes all orals and injectibles.
 
needtogetaas said:
Did you find that higher doses did nothing more for you then lower?
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Higher like over 1000mgs of test a week didn't seem give give me any more gains than 750. I feel like I just wasted it. I usually go around 500mgs/week of test now, but I'm going to do 375 a week this time. Not looking to get massive anymore.
 
I'm planning a big one for April.
weeks 1-16: test cyp 1000mg
Weeks 1-16: eq 600mg
weeks 1-6: anavar 80mg ED
weeks 8-16: winstrol 100mg ED
I can't wait to get this one started. Its really hard to wait when I see the gear in my drawer all the time though.
 
Just started my Jan cycle: Test p, trenbolone a, and masteron p

Biggest thing I learned from the past is the key to success 3 things:
DIET,
DIET,
and DIET!

So far making great gains (4lbs so far and I just finished my first week) with little to no fat gain (because of my diet). I'll post a thread later with the details in case it can save another hard gainer like me the time of creating one themselves like I did.

Also learned to be much more efficient in the gym. I spend half the time I used to with twice the results.
 
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needtogetaas said:
What you guys gut planned.Any one trying any thing new? going back to something old? Trying a new PCT - post cycle therapy - ? Maybe a new product during your cycle? What
have you learned from past cycles and how are you going to apply this to your new cycles?
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1-10 sus 500mg karachis
1-4 db0l 40mg pink thai
5-10 tr3n 100mg eod homebrew
what u think need2?
 
I'm gonna start a long one here in a few months to prepare for a fall show(will be my first). Not sure what dosages I'll be using, but it will include test enan or cyp, deca, eq, dbol, and a winny/tren combo along with test while cutting. Gota start saving for this one.
 
1000 mg test e wk
600mg eq
100mg eod of npp
50 mg oral winny

first 3 weeks I did a shot of sust eod and 500 mg enan ew then bumped the enan to 1000mgs and added the npp and winny. currently 5 weeks total into it. wil be doing the winney and npp for 6 wks total.
 
Thanks to Needto helping me set this up. Going to run it this spring/summer.

1-6 50mg Winstrol ed
1-8 Test Prop - 100mg ed
1-7 Trenbolone - 75mg ed
4-8 HCG 500iu's a week (maybe 250iu's twice a week)

PCT

10-13 40mg/40/20/20 Nolvadex
10-13 50mg Clomid
10-13 Derma Alpha

16 - Bloodwork

Also have some Femera on hand in case things get ugly
 
i would drop the nolva seeing your using trenbolone, nolva can cause more sides when using trenbolones or nandrolones. your using clomid and derma that should be plenty imo
 
8and20 said:
sure thing. the cycle itself is pretty boring but i keep going back 2 what works best 4 me.

1-12 sus 325mg eod
1-4 Dianabol - methandrostenolone - 40mg ed

THE BIG change is diet. i am playing more with the timing of my carbs and what type as well as a little higher than normal cals. it is kinda long 2 explain from my blackberry but i can later if interested.
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I don't believe it "K.C.M."
You got THAT chisled and tight off of Test and Dbol ? !?!?!?
Mother fuu...
 
syringemouth said:
Thanks to Needto helping me set this up. Going to run it this spring/summer.

1-6 50mg Winstrol ed
1-8 Test testosterone propionate - 100mg ed
1-7 Trenbolone - 75mg ed
4-8 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500iu's a week (maybe 250iu's twice a week)

PCT - post cycle therapy -

10-13 40mg/40/20/20 Nolvadex
10-13 50mg Clomid
10-13 Derma Alpha

16 - Bloodwork

Also have some Femera on hand in case things get ugly
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learn new things in 2008 http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ons-about-your-upcoming-cook-book-579868.html
 
needtogetaas said:
You already have a kick start with a Anadrol -oxymetholone - , and 1 weeks of test testosterone propionate is useless as tits on a bull. I would drop it or use it to finish the cycle with.
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Agreed about the prop. Last 2 weeks start the prop. That is a ton of shit to be putting in your body bro. Best of luck
 
Svengali said:
I am planning a biggie... This is a rough draft.
wk 1-3 -Anadrol 50mg/day
wk 1 - test testosterone propionate 100 mg eod
wk1-12 t-400 800 mg/wk
wk 1-10 trenbolone E 600 mg/wk
wk 1-10 masteron E 60 mg/wk

HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , aromasin throughout
PCT - post cycle therapy - ..
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I hope your not a rookie. That is a long run of tren. Be safe and hopefully you get some bloodwork before, during and after. You think about dostinex with that much tren e?
 
cboogsrun said:
Agreed about the testosterone propionate. Last 2 weeks start the testosterone propionate. That is a ton of shit to be putting in your body bro. Best of luck
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Thats why I love these threads. We can get every ones cycles in on spot and we can all tag team them to help out.
 
I don't keep track of weekly amounts. Here's how my cycle will look in april or so.

weeks 1-8 E3D 375mg Test Enanthate
weeks 1-8 E3D 300mg EQ
weeks 1-3 Tbol 25mg ED

Weeks 1-10 hcg 500IU's E3D

Not sure if I'll need hcg after 10 weeks. Will also throw in some sustain even though I zit out like a gotdamn freak. shit works, my dick appreciates it. got all ancillaries on hand.
 
instant.muscle said:
1-10 sus 500mg karachis
1-4 db0l 40mg pink thai
5-10 tr3n 100mg eod homebrew
what u think need2?
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Looks good bro. I would end the test a week after the tren though. If you can get hcg run it the last 5 weeks of the cycle. Have you used tren or deca before?
Have that letro and dos on hand man. Get that dermcrine sustain alpha for pct.
 
needtogetaas said:
Looks good bro. I would end the test a week after the trenbolone though. If you can get HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - run it the last 5 weeks of the cycle. Have you used trenbolone or Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - before?
Have that Femera - letrozole - and dos on hand man. Get that dermcrine sustain alpha for PCT - post cycle therapy - .
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ive used dec@ and tr3n and never have prog issues and have never run f3mera, usin all human grade also, thanks bro
 
needtogetaas said:
Good shit bro. Just trying to keep ya safe.
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thanks bro, appreciate it, how many times have u run tren and what dose did u like? i ran it once at actually only 50mg e3ds and it worked great
 
instant.muscle said:
thanks bro, appreciate it, how many times have u run trenbolone and what dose did u like? i ran it once at actually only 50mg e3ds and it worked great
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A few. I run it 100mg m/w/f and that works fine for me.
 
I'm cruising on enth 400mg e4d and 200mg tren enth a week, some dbol.........got an MRI in feb for a liver "growth".....so the outcome of that will decide my doseage.........

needtogetaas said:
What you guys gut planned.Any one trying any thing new? going back to something old? Trying a new PCT - post cycle therapy - ? Maybe a new product during your cycle? What
have you learned from past cycles and how are you going to apply this to your new cycles?
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I am starting this on Friday
Week 1-10 deca 400mg,split dose to 200 mg on fri and on mon
Week 1-12 sust 525 mg, e3d 175 mg inj
 
Big A said:
I am starting this on Friday
Week 1-10 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 400mg,split dose to 200 mg on fri and on mon
Week 1-12 Sustanon 525 mg, e3d 175 mg inj
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Thats a decent looking cycle Big A good luck , is that splex325 not 525
if the wang dont stand up just lower the decca so the test is a bit more than it , decca dick dosnt affect everyone but it can when the test is lower , but if it is 525 my bad .

Brad. :qt:
 
Havent been lifting much so Im gonna do my trt dose of test for a few weeks and then kick it up for a good 3 months if the first few weeks goes well. Maybe try some of the products advertised on here like the dermacrine with some hcg pct. Still kicking some ideas around.
 
galaxy said:
Havent been lifting much so Im gonna do my trt dose of test for a few weeks and then kick it up for a good 3 months if the first few weeks goes well. Maybe try some of the products advertised on here like the dermacrine with some HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - PCT - post cycle therapy - . Still kicking some ideas around.
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Its always good to try knew things. Its a life long project/lifestile so finding new things is always great.
 
Big A said:
I am starting this on Friday
Week 1-10 Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - 400mg,split dose to 200 mg on fri and on mon
Week 1-12 Sustanon 525 mg, e3d 175 mg inj
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IMO its best to keep test dose above deca.
 
On Monday I am going to run the following:

Week 1 - 14: Sustanon 500 mg/week

Week 1 - 12: EQ 300 mg/week (first time using this compound so I wanna be conservative to see how it treats me)

Week 1 - 10: Deca 300mg/week

Day 1 - 25 Dbol: 40 mg/day

Last 25 days: Anavar 40 mg/day

P C T: Nolvadex, Alpha Sustain, Post Cycle.

This time I am gonna try Unleashed for the duration of the cycle and during P C T to hopefully optimize everything...

What do you guys think of this cycle?
 
bluejay said:
On Monday I am going to run the following:

Week 1 - 14: Sustanon 500 mg/week

Week 1 - 12: EQ 300 mg/week (first time using this compound so I wanna be conservative to see how it treats me)

Week 1 - 10: Deca 300mg/week

Day 1 - 25 Dbol: 40 mg/day

Last 25 days: Anavar 40 mg/day

P C T: Nolvadex, Alpha Sustain, Post Cycle.

This time I am gonna try Unleashed for the duration of the cycle and during P C T to hopefully optimize everything...

What do you guys think of this cycle?
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how often u injecting the sus?

no hcg?
 
The Sust will be 3 X week....

I do not have HCG, but now that you mention it, I guess I really should get some.... It's just I have never been shut down too badly before, so I never felt the need to try it, but if someone with your experiece suggests it, I would be foolish to ignore or disregard it!! :)

What doses would you recommend and at what point in this cycle? Thanks again bro. :)
 
bluejay said:
The Sust will be 3 X week....

I do not have HCG, but now that you mention it, I guess I really should get some.... It's just I have never been shut down too badly before, so I never felt the need to try it, but if someone with your experiece suggests it there are plenty of people on this board with more experience than me. but even so take everything everyone gives u with a grain of salt and verify stuff that sounds fishy with solid research my friend. , I would be foolish to ignore or disregard it!! :)

What doses would you recommend and at what point in this cycle? Thanks again bro. :)
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^^^^^^

stack looks solid.

with decca i prefer to run it during cycle as suppressive as it is to keep the boyz ready for pct time.

250ius 2x ew. then u can run clomid/nolva for pct or nolva & sustain
 
bluejay said:
Thanks again. :)

Hopefully I can build quads at least HALF as good as yours some day. hehe.
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your welcome. i made that deep tissue massage appointment for saturday after legs. hopefully i can stand the pain :worried: . they say he is good (hoping for a hot woman) and worked with an NBA team for a few years.
 
8and20 said:
^^^^^^

stack looks solid.

with decca i prefer to run it during cycle as suppressive as it is to keep the boyz ready for PCT - post cycle therapy - time.

250ius 2x ew. then u can run clomid/Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - for PCT - post cycle therapy - or Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - & sustain
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i like that last part :qt: :qt: :qt: :qt:
 
Should i just go Mon,Wens, Fri, there is a longer gap between fri and mon then the rest of injs but this way i get 525 a week, sound okay?
 
Big A said:
Should i just go Mon,Wens, Fri, there is a longer gap between fri and mon then the rest of injs but this way i get 525 a week, sound okay?
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thats fine. but eod is still ideal in my book. it may be a pain to get the dosage the same but i think the results are worth it.
 
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