Irony of life

[maldorf]

With the passing of ironhorse242 I thought this post might be appropriate to look at again. On the thread he posts his response in #4 down the page.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/maybe-we-should-help-authorities-326431.html

 

[eClenbuterol]

I think it would be better if we didn't bring up his old post, and let his family grieve in peace.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think it would be better if we didn't bring up his old post, and let his family grieve in peace.

I doubt his family is reading this board.

The post/warning is fair. IMO. The dead can't speak, but their actions can be a lesson to the living.

 

[needtogetaas]

The problem is everyone told him to drop the juice and get medical help. He must not have headed the morning. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/tren-e-im-screwed-534934.html

Was it because of the juice he had this problem? No one will ever know. Of course they will deffenatly blame it on that but there is no prof of it. Just that fact that he was sick and never went to the doctors.... (that I know of).

 

[maldorf]

The problem is everyone told him to drop the juice and get medical help. He must not have headed the morning. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/tren-e-im-screwed-534934.html

Was it because of the juice he had this problem? No one will ever know. Of course they will deffenatly blame it on that but there is no prof of it. Just that fact that he was sick and never went to the doctors.... (that I know of).

I think it is being more than a little defiant not to admit that steroids played a role in his death. You can see the post in the tren e thread where the symptoms went away when he got off of the first drug and then came back when he went on the tren e. IMO, some people have less of a tolerance for AAS than others and for them the risks are much higher. Problem is, nobody knows what their risk levels are until its too late. To me, its all a gamble. Certainly having regular check ups with the doc and gone over well help and give us warnings. It is truly tragic when the warnings are ignored. I personally didnt get too much of a warning before I got that giant clot in my coronary artery that killed a great portion of my heart. My arteries were clear and heart not too enlarged, so heart function wasnt too bad previous to the clot.

 

[Big_Joe]

Maldof you remind me of Alzado. He blamed his brain cancer on steroids. The steroids had nothing to do with his cancer (This is according to his doctor). The problem is people do things they secretly think are wrong ( like taking steroids). Then when something bad happens to them they think it's a punishment for doing the "bad" thing. This is called guilt.

 

[maldorf]

Maldof you remind me of Alzado. He blamed his brain cancer on steroids. The steroids had nothing to do with his cancer (This is according to his doctor). The problem is people do things they secretly think are wrong ( like taking steroids). Then when something bad happens to them they think it's a punishment for doing the "bad" thing. This is called guilt.

LOL. Keep on thinking that my man. I dont care what you think honestly. Comparing my case to Alzados is like comparing apples and oranges. You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[mwm5]

Maldof you remind me of Alzado. He blamed his brain cancer on steroids. The steroids had nothing to do with his cancer (This is according to his doctor). The problem is people do things they secretly think are wrong ( like taking steroids). Then when something bad happens to them they think it's a punishment for doing the "bad" thing. This is called guilt.

not to sound like an ass but, from reading your post in this thread and the other you sound completely ignorant. you sound like a smoker trying to convience people that smoking doesn't kill. there is TONS upon TONS of info out there proving what steroids can do to ur heart. does it happen to everybody? NO, but facts are facts.

 

[maldorf]

not to sound like an ass but, from reading your post in this thread and the other you sound completely ignorant. you sound like a smoker trying to convience people that smoking doesn't kill. there is TONS upon TONS of info out there proving what steroids can do to ur heart. does it happen to everybody? NO, but facts are facts.

thank you! There are some reasonable and intelligent adults in this world. the evidence on the effects of AAS on the heart is well documented and one of the true risks out there. To me this outweighs any other side effect of AAS out there, including effects on the liver that so many of us worry about. Though Bald Nazi may beg to differ with me, since his liver was torn up so badly.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Let's be clear, before this gets out of control.

The dangers of steroids are exagerated and misunderstood but they aren't completely benign substances.

In themselves, they do not kill, but excessive use can lead to a host of complications such as high blood pressure, increased platlet count, excessive weight and an enlarged heart -- all of which can kill.

ironhorse went too far and as needto said, he did not heed the warnings. This is no joke bros. When a doctor tells you there's a problem, don't think you can ignore it. They don;t know everything but they know when something's wrong. Don;t be too quick not to accept that anything taken to an extreme can be risky.