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Big Mel was my bor for a period of time. I remember his mess hitting the fan and it was ugly. I can only imagine what Eyepee is going thru.

I hope EyePee had a nice retirement account set up on the side. The Chinese government just seizes everything. There's a guy from the US who cut deals with major companies like Circuit City and Best Buy for Chinese made DVD players, etc....and he's stuck in jail now.

Eyepee will be lucky to not end up in some craphole. No conjugal visits from zexy radies.
 
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we are closed ( not our choice ) all orders recieved before dec 4 filled , ,if you placed order or sent donation after dec 4 i have your money order returned by surface mail , takes up to 8 weeks time but hold on to your money order receipt just in case , please dont email me unless i owe you as there is nothing else to discuss , although i am unable to respond to email due to limited internet till further notice , rest assured if i owe anyone i will take care of it , it may take some time ,guys who supported us for past 10 hard years through thick and thin and endless hardship please pray to lord so we so we can serve you again ,with help of lord we may have a limited list in 3 weeks time
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From his website.

I agree that the sources that are using websites are making things far too out in the open. While I do like having an in depth look at my sources inventory, with pictures and a large list etc... I've found e-mails to be much more discreet. It still just makes me think "damn there is just a webpage sitting here for anyone to view... I remember when you had to have a certain membership or backing from a respected person to get someone's list"
 
He was raided, that's not a rumor that's a fact. Whether he can bribe himself out of it is a different question.
 
Do you think it could be because recently he was listing HYDROCODONE (active ingredient in VICODIN), a scheduled drug in USA, for sale? It was recently on his website at the top, took me by surprise and made me think he was asking for trouble, and then he took it off the website. Shortly thereafter (a few days ago) his site says he's closed.

I truly hope this is the reason, and not because of China's stance toward performance enhancing drugs.
 
if he had prior convictions. that would not have helped any. alot of the time this is the biggest cause of downfall for sources. on top of helpers/remailers with big fucking mouths and no balls.
 
bigtravis said:
if he had prior convictions. that would not have helped any. alot of the time this is the biggest cause of downfall for sources. on top of helpers/remailers with big fucking mouths and no balls.
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And other times it's our DEA putting pressure on foreign governments who have Most Favored Nation trading status.
 
Any source in the USA or USA friendly country is not on good grounds - it's not IF, it's WHEN, in terms of going down. Now, China and Thailand are taking people down, Greece is going after folks, Spain is not happy with it, and EU (need I say anything?) is already not positive with it. As time goes on, only rouge/non-us friendly country sources will stick around, who knows.....
 
Mr.X said:
Any source in the USA or USA friendly country is not on good grounds - it's not IF, it's WHEN, in terms of going down. Now, China and Thailand are taking people down, Greece is going after folks, Spain is not happy with it, and EU (need I say anything?) is already not positive with it. As time goes on, only rouge/non-us friendly country sources will stick around, who knows.....
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this is actually not new news, but just hightened a little more.
 
Mr.X said:
Any source in the USA or USA friendly country is not on good grounds - it's not IF, it's WHEN, in terms of going down. Now, China and Thailand are taking people down, Greece is going after folks, Spain is not happy with it, and EU (need I say anything?) is already not positive with it. As time goes on, only rouge/non-us friendly country sources will stick around, who knows.....
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scary shit..

but i HEAVILY doubt they'll try to get him with serious time.
i think they're tryina make example of steroid sources right now more than anything... basically put them out of biz and let the world know that no matter where the source is, they can nail him!

but i still believe in the 'ride til you crash' philosophy..
every road has an end... and when the time comes, you take the fall like a man and move on. a year or 2 in jail never hurt anybody!

in the meantime, he made ALOT of money and surely can afford a group of fine lawyers.. and if O.J got off, im sure he can too!
 
satchboogie said:
scary shit..

but i HEAVILY doubt they'll try to get him with serious time.
i think they're tryina make example of steroid sources right now more than anything... basically put them out of biz and let the world know that no matter where the source is, they can nail him!

but i still believe in the 'ride til you crash' philosophy..
every road has an end... and when the time comes, you take the fall like a man and move on. a year or 2 in jail never hurt anybody!

in the meantime, he made ALOT of money and surely can afford a group of fine lawyers.. and if O.J got off, im sure he can too!
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Well, you have to understand china. Basically, in china, it's who you know and who you can pay off. Obviously, he did NOT know the right people, for if he did he would have been tipped off - as most places in china are before 'example' raids (as I call them). This puts him in a worse situations then most, but that's speculation.

'ride til you crash', well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so I have no comment. But I will say that every person should have financial goals; once reached, they should take a step back and think of retirement, no matter the business. Why work hard and stress when you don't need to? that's my logic. You own 10 KFCs, in 3 years you should be able to retire with the profits.

O.J....there is a long racially backed story, along with bribing of senators, marching of races, protests of races and the list goes on. I doubt 100,000 blacks would march for AS sources.
 
Mr.X said:
Well, you have to understand china. Basically, in china, it's who you know and who you can pay off. Obviously, he did NOT know the right people, for if he did he would have been tipped off - as most places in china are before 'example' raids (as I call them). This puts him in a worse situations then most, but that's speculation.

'ride til you crash', well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so I have no comment. But I will say that every person should have financial goals; once reached, they should take a step back and think of retirement, no matter the business. Why work hard and stress when you don't need to? that's my logic. You own 10 KFCs, in 3 years you should be able to retire with the profits.

O.J....there is a long racially backed story, along with bribing of senators, marching of races, protests of races and the list goes on. I doubt 100,000 blacks would march for AS sources.
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you make a fine point about the 'ride til you crash' approach...
yes its true once your financial goals are met, its best to call it quits.. IN THEORY THAT WORKS!

but from theory to application is a long road... and a tough decision...
one that takes a seriously courageous, strong, and well balanced person to make... and with the money that some sources make, it becomes an every day battle im sure... to quit or keep goin.

another point to stres... how much is enough?
100k?
500k?
1mill?
2mill?????

the real question is how much time will a source do for selling steroids (no pain killers or other bullshit)

if that time is a year or less, i say fuck em and ride til you crash.
anything up to 2 years in jail is doable too...
just ask people here if they'll do 2 years in jail for 2 million dollars.. i got money most will do it!

but if they come at sources with 2 or more years, then it becomes a different story alltogether, and perhaps the 'ride til you crash' approach is one that is only followed by the stupid and selfish.

any way we look at it..
times arent gettin better for steroids!
 
satch..in China, they take your funds. GONE.

Some people sit in jail for months before they even can speak to family or lawyers. There are people sitting in Chinese jails for far less offenses.
 
gotmilk said:
satch..in China, they take your funds. GONE.

Some people sit in jail for months before they even can speak to family or lawyers. There are people sitting in Chinese jails for far less offenses.
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thats IF they find the money!
i dont see how anybody's dumb enough to have their cash found.
 
quote: Mr.X) 'ride til you crash', well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so I have no comment. But I will say that every person should have financial goals; once reached, they should take a step back and think of retirement, no matter the business. Why work hard and stress when you don't need to?


absolutely! i've seen this done.
 
satchboogie said:
you make a fine point about the 'ride til you crash' approach...
yes its true once your financial goals are met, its best to call it quits.. IN THEORY THAT WORKS!

but from theory to application is a long road... and a tough decision...
one that takes a seriously courageous, strong, and well balanced person to make... and with the money that some sources make, it becomes an every day battle im sure... to quit or keep goin.

another point to stres... how much is enough?
100k?
500k?
1mill?
2mill?????

the real question is how much time will a source do for selling steroids (no pain killers or other bullshit)

if that time is a year or less, i say fuck em and ride til you crash.
anything up to 2 years in jail is doable too...
just ask people here if they'll do 2 years in jail for 2 million dollars.. i got money most will do it!

but if they come at sources with 2 or more years, then it becomes a different story alltogether, and perhaps the 'ride til you crash' approach is one that is only followed by the stupid and selfish.

any way we look at it..
times arent gettin better for steroids!
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I don't see how it's a theory...you make enough money, you quit. That's it, there is no complex breakdown.

I'm not sure where you're coming from bro, but 2 years in a maximum security san quentin or something similar will not be worth all the money you can throw at me - trust me...

How much is enough? that's up to the person. Usually, greed is what makes people miserable and unhappy. Most people that start with nothing and earn a lot, don't know how to invest, so they have to keep working and working and working, (spending on crap) as they don't know how to make their money work for them. Thus, the retirement comes at 70, even then they are money hungry.

I think most sources use the 'ride until you crash' approach, that is why they all eventually fail; some stick around until they are caught or dead (as with STK) but everyone eventually goes down or retires. It's not IF it's WHEN.

Life is not without it's risks, if you're afraid of wolfs don't go into the forest, so it's relative. I'm not here to teach people how to do business, I'm here to throw out some reality checks for people.
 
satchboogie said:
thats IF they find the money!
i dont see how anybody's dumb enough to have their cash found.
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hard to hide cash in china, their money system is VERY much controlled
 
He was in the process of looking for a new home of business. Because the Olympica are coming to China, there has been added pressure on Hormone/steroid sellers. It is ILLEGAL there, so far many of the people looked the other way
 
Is 2 years time the only downside of geting busted? What about the family, all the younger people in the family thinking your a drug dealer, who couldnt make a liviing doing something legal. Basically they will think your a loser!!
 
hey satch
i work in a jail and after day 3, for most people that is, is when it sets in and they know they are in a world of shit...i mean hell is it worth 2 mill to have "bubba" (and that shit really does happen) be your celly, we have guys that bawl their eyes out and these are some BIG cats man....i say just be sensible bro and dont say 2 years of time is doable cuz ive seen first hand people try to hang themselves for far far less then that....take this time of year for example with the holidays, this IS the time for suicides and you think its easy to sit through 2 of them in jail...i wish you luck in all you do and even though i dont agree with what you said it dont mean im right either, everyone has their own opinions....
 
99% of the time Law Enforcement has watched where your money goes and what you do for months or even years in some cases before moving on you. Most drug dealers never see a dime once they are busted. I've seen the FBI build a case against the Russian Mafia that took 3 years. There was no money when it was done. They couldn't even pay their lawyers to finish the trial.
 
If IP has left China then it would explain the lack of media coverage as the Chinese pigs must be rather embarassed. However I can't see him leaving without his wife / gf or other relations ?
 
newshipping said:
If IP has left China then it would explain the lack of media coverage as the Chinese pigs must be rather embarassed. However I can't see him leaving without his wife / gf or other relations ?
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I can confirm he is OUTSIDE of China.

This is how I beleive it happened. IP has been out of the country a lot lately scouting out his new residence. He has been searching for a new spot for quite sometime. He knew, or was tipped off that the authorities were coming down hard on steroids because of the Olympic induced international pressure. I bet he was out of the contry when the bust happened.

I know what country he is in, and I can say he will not have a problem there. Though I dont see him running a successful operation from the country. It would be a bitch getting items through customs
 
64Pilot said:
I can confirm he is OUTSIDE of China.

This is how I beleive it happened. IP has been out of the country a lot lately scouting out his new residence. He has been searching for a new spot for quite sometime. He knew, or was tipped off that the authorities were coming down hard on steroids because of the Olympic induced international pressure. I bet he was out of the contry when the bust happened.

I know what country he is in, and I can say he will not have a problem there. Though I dont see him running a successful operation from the country. It would be a bitch getting items through customs
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What about his family?
 
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