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Insane cycle. Whos in on this

Agreed. And there have been lab tests that show UG T to be under. Also, I'm on HRT and have substituted the same dosage of a UG brand and NO WAY was it the same! I felt I needed twice as much to get the same effect. Others with the same experience concur. But that means nothing to UA Iron. He just tries to be a wise ass and disparaging whenever and however he can and time after time just looks foolish doing so.

I wouldn't mind if he asked, but he makes everything an accusation and that gets really annoying.

I couldn't agree more with both of these statements. I have been cycling for 20 years, just not it the last 5 years. I have taken a gram of ug gear and only raised my test level to 800 and others have put it through the roof. I'm 46 now and a year ago I started TRT and have tried 3 different brands of pharm grade. All tested at 200mg ew. All 3 raised my level differently, my starting level was 260 and the results were 460,566 and 1244! You can guess which one I chose. So it may not be that all ug labs are under dosed. Do the pharmaceutical companies under dose also? I think it could be the way a person's body accepts
the brand ug or pharm. And yes I am back in the gym hitting it hard for an old man lol.

Sorry for the derail.
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I couldn't agree more with both of these statements. I have been cycling for 20 years, just not it the last 5 years. I have taken a gram of ug gear and only raised my test level to 800 and others have put it through the roof. I'm 46 now and a year ago I started TRT and have tried 3 different brands of pharm grade. All tested at 200mg ew. All 3 raised my level differently, my starting level was 260 and the results were 460,566 and 1244! You can guess which one I chose. So it may not be that all ug labs are under dosed. Do the pharmaceutical companies under dose also? I think it could be the way a person's body accepts
the brand ug or pharm. And yes I am back in the gym hitting it hard for an old man lol.

Sorry for the derail.
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really the inconsistency is the problem.

you could have a vial from the same source/brand that is awesome shit. and then another vial is underdosed.

ya ya ya i know sometimes pharma is faked, but you should be able to tell pretty quickly if there is a problem with a simple blood test
 
really the inconsistency is the problem.

you could have a vial from the same source/brand that is awesome shit. and then another vial is underdosed.

ya ya ya i know sometimes pharma is faked, but you should be able to tell pretty quickly if there is a problem with a simple blood test

I agree Steve pharma brands a copied and faked. I should have stated that the 3 I tried were from a Doc's script straight from the pharmacy. Yes consistency is a problem.



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That's fine...but if you want to live to be old then do us and yourself a favor and get a BP wrist monitor and get your bloods done more than once a year.

Def. I check mine ED, take BP meds to control, get bloods every 2 months, and donate blood every 3 months, as well as take supportive supplements.
 
Def. I check mine ED, take BP meds to control, get bloods every 2 months, and donate blood every 3 months, as well as take supportive supplements.

Yeah...that's another thing I just started doing that YOU Deltoid87 should be doing. That is donating blood. Preferably double red blood cells if your iron levels aren't too high. If they are then give regular whole blood. It will do your body a world of good and help your blood work immensely. Plus help keep your RBC, hemocrit, iron ect in check.
 
Pharm grade is pharm grade. If it's made in the U.S. and sold through paharmcies with a prescription it must meet a standard. There is no such thing as "lower-dosed" pharmgrade.

Now sometimes blood levels don't get as high. There are reasons for that, mainly how long after doing the test was done.
 
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