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Deltoid_87

Deltoid_87

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Start my summer cycle in a few days time. this will be the maddest course iv run. Iv got some awesome stuff. This is what im using.

Tri Test 400. test e, test cyp and test deconate
Tri tren 150. Tren ace, tren e and tren hex.
Masteron e 200
Ment. Trestolone Ace 75mg/ml
MTM methyl tren 2mg/ 100mcg cheque drops inj
Hgh kigtropin

Cycle will be 16 weeks. Ill lay out how im putting it together soon. Ill only be using the methyl tren chèque drop mix pré workout à couple days a week only, before legs :evil:

Cant wait for this haha
 
Deltoid_87 said:
Start my summer cycle in a few days time. this will be the maddest course iv run. Iv got some awesome stuff. This is what im using.

Tri Test 400. test e, test cyp and test deconate
Tri tren 150. Tren ace, tren e and tren hex.
Masteron e 200
Ment. Trestolone Ace 75mg/ml
MTM methyl tren 2mg/ 100mcg cheque drops inj
Hgh kigtropin

Cycle will be 16 weeks. Ill lay out how im putting it together soon. Ill only be using the methyl tren chèque drop mix pré workout à couple days a week only, before legs :evil:

Cant wait for this haha
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Killer bro!!!
 
you're running two of the most liver toxic orals together?

I think you should add in Halotestin too. It'll help harden you out like crazy.
 
There's one hell if blast, bro! Subbed to see how this treats you.

Btw. UA_Iron, what orals? Methyl Tren & Cheqe Drops Injection, if I'm reading OP correctly. Not saying that they wouldn't still be liver toxic, Methyl Tren (oral) took my liver values sky high...
Have never tried Cheque Drops, but guessing they are both at least little easier on liver as injection.

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Thats right, no orals the methyl tren and cheque drops is an oil based inj 10ml vial. Its dosed high at 2mg methyl tren and 100mcg mibolerone per ml. I think ill start off with just half a ml an hour before workout. Should give me one hell of an aggresive workout and some added strength during heavy sessions. Like i say ill only jab this 2 or 3 times a week and I will be running milk thistle and live 52 throughout. Its still liver toxic when inj but it cant be as harsh as when swallowed?
 
I've only ever seen oral cheque drops - though I guess they could be made into an injectable preparation. Same thing with the methyl-tren. 2mg of methyl tren is a lot...

Let us know how this goes
 
Deltoid_87 said:
Start my summer cycle in a few days time. this will be the maddest course iv run. Iv got some awesome stuff. This is what im using.

Tri Test 400. test e, test cyp and test deconate
Tri tren 150. Tren ace, tren e and tren hex.
Masteron e 200
Ment. Trestolone Ace 75mg/ml
MTM methyl tren 2mg/ 100mcg cheque drops inj
Hgh kigtropin

Cycle will be 16 weeks. Ill lay out how im putting it together soon. Ill only be using the methyl tren chèque drop mix pré workout à couple days a week only, before legs :evil:

Cant wait for this haha
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I think I'd call it good at the test/tren/mast. But that's just me. Wish you the best bro.
 
Deltoid_87 said:
I like being big.

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I take up enough space. : No complaints from the babes. What the guy in the squat rack thinks is of less concern. : )



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Im perfectly healthy too thx. Ill run these compounds with caution.


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What does that mean? If you're doing an unhealthy amount, it's not cautious.

IOf course, you can keep an eye on things. Just like Andres Muntzer did.

Nor trying to bust on you bro. I just think there is already too much recklessness and I have to present the other side the 90% of the members who come here to learn. But I wish you all the best.
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I'm not recommending this amount of gear to beginners Nelson.. but some of us like to run à little more than a bit of test and primo.
I haven't even talked doses yet. Yea theres some harsh compounds here yes but I have à lot of cycle experience and knowledge and I'll be starting off with a low dose with the hormones I havent used before.. that's what I mean by cautious.. iv run big cycles before and I'm still healthy. iv run up to 1200mg test. Iv run 800mg tren e. Done 800mg 1-test cyp and 800mg mast. 900mg deca. 900mg eq. I have blood tests by my gp every year and so far everything is in the norm, blood pressure, cholesterol, hpta function and everything else is fine.

I bet ull follow if I throw in some need2guard :D
 
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6ft
225lbs
Bf 12% estimate
25 yrs old
Lifting 8 years
Cycling 4 years

Last few cycles I have bridged with orals. First was MHN 5mg a day. 2nd time used Var 25mg. Last one i bridged with Drol 25mg. Recovered fine every time. No issues.
 
Deltoid_87 said:
I'm not recommending this amount of gear to beginners Nelson.. but some of us like to run à little more than a bit of test and primo.
I haven't even talked doses yet. Yea theres some harsh compounds here yes but I have à lot of cycle experience and knowledge and I'll be starting off with a low dose with the hormones I havent used before.. that's what I mean by cautious.. iv run big cycles before and I'm still healthy. iv run up to 1200mg test. Iv run 800mg tren e. Done 800mg 1-test cyp and 800mg mast. 900mg deca. 900mg eq. I have blood tests by my gp every year and so far everything is in the norm, blood pressure, cholesterol, hpta function and everything else is fine.

I bet ull follow if I throw in some need2guard :D
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Hey, I'm happy for you. Maybe you have great genetics or you;re young eneough that these things won't show up yet. But some guys may take that as "HE did it, why can't I?" I'm not saying you're recommending to beginners, but there might be some guy who's done a few cycles, sees how big you are, and gets tempted. Of course, it's everyone's business what they do.

Actually, 1200 mgs of T isn't that much considering most UG test is about half as strong as Pharm grade. But 800 of tren and 900 of Deca and 900 of EQ at the same time? I can't imagine your BP isn't though the roof. But again, I wish you luck and just be careful.

And sure --N2GUARD? Can't hurt! : )
 
i would do 12 caps a day of n2guard with that stack.

slow down a little though you are still a baby at 25. at this rate what will you be running when you are my age? think about the next 12 years, not just the next 12 weeks.

your bloods are not normal on that stack which is why if you run a harsh stack like this you must cycle off for atleast time on= time off and your pct needs to have a detox in place ..

i like to be big too bro.. hell i am 5 6 and i am closing in at 210 pounds with 13% body fat. i am holding a shit ton of mass on my frame. however all i am running is 400mg EQ with 200mg of hex. thats 600mg a week total of juice. and the EQ is ug so i'm not even sure how well its dosed. point is you don't need to run 10 compounds to get big. and you definately don't need to run a gram of juice. its all about diet and training.. the juice is just icing on the cake
 
i've used plenty of underdosed UG test. not really hard to tell its underdosed when you run 500mg a week and your T levels only go to 800. bloods dont lie

had a long talk with needto about this on the phone as well.. when it comes to test i definately go pharma grade everytime. its worth it

the best sustanon i've ever used and the ONLY ones i used is 'paki'... not nile river but 'paki'. thats all i will say on the matter so please don't PM me
 
stevesmi said:
i've used plenty of underdosed UG test. not really hard to tell its underdosed when you run 500mg a week and your T levels only go to 800. bloods dont lie

had a long talk with needto about this on the phone as well.. when it comes to test i definately go pharma grade everytime. its worth it

the best sustanon i've ever used and the ONLY ones i used is 'paki'... not nile river but 'paki'. thats all i will say on the matter so please don't PM me
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Agreed. And there have been lab tests that show UG T to be under. Also, I'm on HRT and have substituted the same dosage of a UG brand and NO WAY was it the same! I felt I needed twice as much to get the same effect. Others with the same experience concur. But that means nothing to UA Iron. He just tries to be a wise ass and disparaging whenever and however he can and time after time just looks foolish doing so.

I wouldn't mind if he asked, but he makes everything an accusation and that gets really annoying.
 
burnthiscorpse said:
I have posted before about this and I must have been lucky. The last UG sust I cruised on at 105mg wk gave me 1400ng/dl.

The 150mg wk of cyp before that gave me 2450 ng/dl (quite ridiculous)
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stick with your source until they fuck up. thats what i do .

if you can find a good UG guy then hats off to you. they are good at first but end up letting me down after a while though in my experience.. my EQ is UG right now. so far so good (i think).. but if he lets me down next time then i move on
 
Looks like a pretty crazy cycle. Hope your staying on top of bloodwork. I'm running a high dose of tren ace with moderate dose of mast and low dose test right now. About to add in some GH at 4iu 5on2 off. Keep us updated on this one.
 
Hey Deltoid

I'm not familiar with the last compounds on your cycle but I do know they're strong substances. I'll follow your progress with interest. Good luck and stay safe.

Regarding the UG stuff...
I must've been lucky. Out of the many products out there I've only had one item (Anadrol) that was underdosed. Actually, I'd venture as far as saying there was nothing in it at all. Still, they were a freeby anyway, so can't really complain.

I'm on HRT too and use Sustanon 250. I'll echo what's been said about the Paki (Kirachi?) ones, but i honestly don't think they're as well dosed as the Polish Omnadron, and certainly not as good as my prescribed Sustanon 250, which is Organon. Organon blows! Amazing stuff, honestly. Problem is - for you guys - I've never seen Organon for sale retail-wise anywhere..ever. Why? I don't know, and maybe somebody can correct me if they've seen it about.

Anyway, Delt...Good luck with your cycle.

Craig
 
Nelson Montana said:
If you don't know what you're talking about you really shouldn't talk shit.
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I asked you to prove something because I don't believe it. You're throwing out some kind of fact like you have some kind of evidence - which you have yet to disclose. I'm certainly not going to disprove the statement that you cannot prove, that's not how logic works.

So again, how am I the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about?
 
UA_Iron said:
I asked you to prove something because I don't believe it. You're throwing out some kind of fact like you have some kind of evidence - which you have yet to disclose. I'm certainly not going to disprove the statement that you cannot prove, that's not how logic works.

So again, how am I the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about?
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Everything with you is antagonistic bro. It's more than a little annoying. I'm not some schmuck who started doing this yesterday you know.

You don't have to respect what I've done and you don't have to believe what I know but you can show some basic curtesy just as you should to anyone.


I've already addressed this to you once before, you apologized, I accepted, and you're back to the same shit. Enough already.
 
burnthiscorpse said:
I have posted before about this and I must have been lucky. The last UG sust I cruised on at 105mg wk gave me 1400ng/dl.

The 150mg wk of cyp before that gave me 2450 ng/dl (quite ridiculous)
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Nice I just got bloodwork done on my homebrew test, only using 100mg per week of enth with small subq injections eod and my total T was 1061
 
Nelson Montana said:
Everything with you is antagonistic bro. It's more than a little annoying. I'm not some schmuck who started doing this yesterday you know.

You don't have to respect what I've done and you don't have to believe what I know but you can show some basic curtesy just as you should to anyone.


I've already addressed this to you once before, you apologized, I accepted, and you're back to the same shit. Enough already.
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I admitted fault and I was sorry.

But you're still making stuff up. Facts are facts bro, if you dont have them to back up statements like you frequently make then what? Maybe you have some ulterior motive for spreading information you made up?

But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt: maybe you did have a bad experience with a UG lab underdosing something. Then this would beg a statement like "I've had a bad experience with an UG lab and underdosed gear so I could never recommend them" instead of vilifying a whole population that you do not have the best understanding of. These all encompassing statements breed a culture of bro-science and hinder progress of AAS and its utility for what we strive to achieve.
 
alright guys lets take it to PM

unless its straight forward related to the thread or if you have something else to add. this trash talking back and forth just take it to PM's though unless you really want to talk about the issue at hand. basically agree to disagree and move on
 
UA_Iron said:
I admitted fault and I was sorry.

But you're still making stuff up. Facts are facts bro, if you dont have them to back up statements like you frequently make then what? Maybe you have some ulterior motive for spreading information you made up?

But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt: maybe you did have a bad experience with a UG lab underdosing something. Then this would beg a statement like "I've had a bad experience with an UG lab and underdosed gear so I could never recommend them" instead of vilifying a whole population that you do not have the best understanding of. These all encompassing statements breed a culture of bro-science and hinder progress of AAS and its utility for what we strive to achieve.
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Well, you're wrong. And I'm not going to discuss it with you because you really don't want to learn. You already know everything. Go with that.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Hey, I'm happy for you. Maybe you have great genetics or you;re young eneough that these things won't show up yet. But some guys may take that as "HE did it, why can't I?" I'm not saying you're recommending to beginners, but there might be some guy who's done a few cycles, sees how big you are, and gets tempted. Of course, it's everyone's business what they do.

Actually, 1200 mgs of T isn't that much considering most UG test is about half as strong as Pharm grade. But 800 of tren and 900 of Deca and 900 of EQ at the same time? I can't imagine your BP isn't though the roof. But again, I wish you luck and just be careful.

And sure --N2GUARD? Can't hurt! : )
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No not all at the same time bro. That wayy too much oil for me. The 1200mg test was run alone. The 800mg tren e too but with a little test.. and the 1-test with with a bit of test only as well. I did run the 900 eq and deca together with test, but that was 300mf per ml gear so i was able to run that much with just a 2.5ml jab 3 times a week. I never jab over 2.5ml. Thats why i love this high concentrated gear. Also while i was on all this i had my blood pressure checked a couple times mid cycle and it was fine. If it came back too high I would lower the dosage.

As for the ugl vs pharma grade thing yea ur right can always be slightly underdosed u never know, that 900mg could only be 600
 
Deltoid_87 said:
No not all at the same time bro. That wayy too much oil for me. The 1200mg test was run alone. The 800mg tren e too but with a little test.. and the 1-test with with a bit of test only as well. I did run the 900 eq and deca together with test, but that was 300mf per ml gear so i was able to run that much with just a 2.5ml jab 3 times a week. I never jab over 2.5ml. Thats why i love this high concentrated gear. Also while i was on all this i had my blood pressure checked a couple times mid cycle and it was fine. If it came back too high I would lower the dosage.

As for the ugl vs pharma grade thing yea ur right can always be slightly underdosed u never know, that 900mg could only be 600
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bro, getting your blood pressure checked while you're on cycle by a doctor is horseshit. I'm not trying to be an asshole here but brother please do the right thing and the responsible thing and go get yourself a blood pressure monitor and check it home multiple times a day and always check it 3 times when you check it so you can get an average.
 
^^^ this and also i think i mentioned it OP but at your age you can get away with wrecklessness but as i said earlier in the thread in another 5, 10, 15 years you think you are gonna be able to run cycles like this and not piss off your wife in the process lol or not have major heart strain not gonna happen. when you are young its easy to get away with a lot of shit.. not so easy when you get into your 30's and then 40's. i remember i would work out 6X a week balls to the wall in my late teens.. now my body feels it bigtime at my age.. its not so easy anymore to abuse yourself. so basically long story short don't get into bad habits at 25
 
When i get old thats the time to calm down! Id like to enjoy it now while im young. When im married with kids everything will be different.. im not being stupid and naive I understand the effects it has on ur health and I'm aware the body doesn't handle it as well as u get older. So nows my time. I'm doing it. It's working. I'm healthy. I'm happy.
 
^^Agreed with this. I'm 26 now and going pretty hard at it. I had natural low T since before I ever touched AAS and was put on TRT so I just blast and cruise. Your cycle looks nice. I know a lot of guys think its crazy but I've seen guys running way more shit. On another forum it's the norm to run well over a gram of gear. Doesn't mean this is healthy or anybody should do it especially a newbie.
 
Deltoid_87 said:
When i get old thats the time to calm down! Id like to enjoy it now while im young. When im married with kids everything will be different.. im not being stupid and naive I understand the effects it has on ur health and I'm aware the body doesn't handle it as well as u get older. So nows my time. I'm doing it. It's working. I'm healthy. I'm happy.
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That's fine...but if you want to live to be old then do us and yourself a favor and get a BP wrist monitor and get your bloods done more than once a year.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Agreed. And there have been lab tests that show UG T to be under. Also, I'm on HRT and have substituted the same dosage of a UG brand and NO WAY was it the same! I felt I needed twice as much to get the same effect. Others with the same experience concur. But that means nothing to UA Iron. He just tries to be a wise ass and disparaging whenever and however he can and time after time just looks foolish doing so.

I wouldn't mind if he asked, but he makes everything an accusation and that gets really annoying.
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I couldn't agree more with both of these statements. I have been cycling for 20 years, just not it the last 5 years. I have taken a gram of ug gear and only raised my test level to 800 and others have put it through the roof. I'm 46 now and a year ago I started TRT and have tried 3 different brands of pharm grade. All tested at 200mg ew. All 3 raised my level differently, my starting level was 260 and the results were 460,566 and 1244! You can guess which one I chose. So it may not be that all ug labs are under dosed. Do the pharmaceutical companies under dose also? I think it could be the way a person's body accepts
the brand ug or pharm. And yes I am back in the gym hitting it hard for an old man lol.

Sorry for the derail.
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super-duty1 said:
I couldn't agree more with both of these statements. I have been cycling for 20 years, just not it the last 5 years. I have taken a gram of ug gear and only raised my test level to 800 and others have put it through the roof. I'm 46 now and a year ago I started TRT and have tried 3 different brands of pharm grade. All tested at 200mg ew. All 3 raised my level differently, my starting level was 260 and the results were 460,566 and 1244! You can guess which one I chose. So it may not be that all ug labs are under dosed. Do the pharmaceutical companies under dose also? I think it could be the way a person's body accepts
the brand ug or pharm. And yes I am back in the gym hitting it hard for an old man lol.

Sorry for the derail.
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really the inconsistency is the problem.

you could have a vial from the same source/brand that is awesome shit. and then another vial is underdosed.

ya ya ya i know sometimes pharma is faked, but you should be able to tell pretty quickly if there is a problem with a simple blood test
 
stevesmi said:
really the inconsistency is the problem.

you could have a vial from the same source/brand that is awesome shit. and then another vial is underdosed.

ya ya ya i know sometimes pharma is faked, but you should be able to tell pretty quickly if there is a problem with a simple blood test
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I agree Steve pharma brands a copied and faked. I should have stated that the 3 I tried were from a Doc's script straight from the pharmacy. Yes consistency is a problem.



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burnthiscorpse said:
That's fine...but if you want to live to be old then do us and yourself a favor and get a BP wrist monitor and get your bloods done more than once a year.
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Def. I check mine ED, take BP meds to control, get bloods every 2 months, and donate blood every 3 months, as well as take supportive supplements.
 
meathead96 said:
Def. I check mine ED, take BP meds to control, get bloods every 2 months, and donate blood every 3 months, as well as take supportive supplements.
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Yeah...that's another thing I just started doing that YOU Deltoid87 should be doing. That is donating blood. Preferably double red blood cells if your iron levels aren't too high. If they are then give regular whole blood. It will do your body a world of good and help your blood work immensely. Plus help keep your RBC, hemocrit, iron ect in check.
 
Pharm grade is pharm grade. If it's made in the U.S. and sold through paharmcies with a prescription it must meet a standard. There is no such thing as "lower-dosed" pharmgrade.

Now sometimes blood levels don't get as high. There are reasons for that, mainly how long after doing the test was done.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Pharm grade is pharm grade. If it's made in the U.S. and sold through paharmcies with a prescription it must meet a standard. There is no such thing as "lower-dosed" pharmgrade.

Now sometimes blood levels don't get as high. There are reasons for that, mainly how long after doing the test was done.
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I did my tests 4 days after an injection.

Am I wrong in thinking that brands effect everyone a little different?

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I can't even remember running this cycle but reading what I did back then makes me cringe!!... wayyyyy too much... too complicated.. too expensive... what the fuck was I doing..

My courses are simple these days. In the winter I run Deca ! And in the summer I run Masteron! With a little test. Cabar.. and hcg... I rarely come off.. my balls are tiny.. but I still produce a fulfilling load...
 
stevesmi said:
^^^ this and also i think i mentioned it OP but at your age you can get away with wrecklessness but as i said earlier in the thread in another 5, 10, 15 years you think you are gonna be able to run cycles like this and not piss off your wife in the process lol or not have major heart strain not gonna happen. when you are young its easy to get away with a lot of shit.. not so easy when you get into your 30's and then 40's. i remember i would work out 6X a week balls to the wall in my late teens.. now my body feels it bigtime at my age.. its not so easy anymore to abuse yourself. so basically long story short don't get into bad habits at 25
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Live like a lion for two days or a sheep for the rest of your life, very interesting quote..
 
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