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Imagine a remote control that can adjust the brain.

Soulthief

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http://www.ted.com/talks/andres_loz..._and_the_switch_that_might_turn_them_off.html

Deep brain stimulation is becoming very precise. This technique allows surgeons to place electrodes in almost any area of the brain, and turn them up or down -- like a radio dial or thermostat -- to correct dysfunction. Andres Lozano offers a dramatic look at emerging techniques, in which a woman with Parkinson's instantly stops shaking and brain areas eroded by Alzheimer's are brought back to life.
 
Lol likely wishful thinking puddz
 
Just think, you could rewrite an entire personality. If someone is an asshole you just get them a gift card and they can go in for a "tune-up".
 
Cool fucking story
 
Soulthief said:
Just think, you could rewrite an entire personality. If someone is an asshole you just get them a gift card and they can go in for a "tune-up".
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Ok that's just ridiculous, obviously this is for severe deteriorating conditions that outweigh the incredible risks of surgery and side effects of other areas of the brain being affected, nor your average "retraining" tool

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nangiggles said:
Ok that's just ridiculous, obviously this is for severe deteriorating conditions that outweigh the incredible risks of surgery and side effects of other areas of the brain being affected, nor your average "retraining" tool

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Yes, it was ridiculous. I was joking. You need to dial up your sense of humor.
 
nangiggles said:
Ok that's just ridiculous, obviously this is for severe deteriorating conditions that outweigh the incredible risks of surgery and side effects of other areas of the brain being affected, nor your average "retraining" tool

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Brainwashing is just that actually. Not that ridiculous.
 
Jack steel said:
Brainwashing is just that actually. Not that ridiculous.
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One thing is how the brain works as per the functions we display (behavior, thought patterns, conditioning, etc) and another the way we feel and act based on clinical things such as neurochemistry, lesions in areas, etc. Completely different.
 
nangiggles said:
One thing is how the brain works as per the functions we display (behavior, thought patterns, conditioning, etc) and another the way we feel and act based on clinical things such as neurochemistry, lesions in areas, etc. Completely different.
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im willing to bet stacks you don't know dick about neurochemistry or the brain for that matter.



stfu.
 
nangiggles said:
One thing is how the brain works as per the functions we display (behavior, thought patterns, conditioning, etc) and another the way we feel and act based on clinical things such as neurochemistry, lesions in areas, etc. Completely different.
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I was a behind-the-retina visual neuroscience guy for years, and we used to delineate the world exactly that way. We considered ourselves the "hard science" guys and the psychology/development/behavior guys the "soft science" guys (we had snide names for them, like the School of Arts and Crafts).

The older I get and the more I observe, the more I'm convinced that both sides are co-mingled in some really bizarre ways.

1) I do think that the hard-science aspects of your brain (neurotransmitter levels, overall brain state, synaptic organization, genetic variations) have a huge impact on how you react to the circumstances in front of you. Within that tiny, 2-10 second decision-making period, you're almost 100% on autopilot. Over the immediate time interval in front of you, you're in far less control than you think.

2) But I also believe that the soft sciences stuff gradually remodels the hard-science aspects of your brain over time. The mantra "fake it till you make it" is incredibly accurate. Behavioral overrides of existing patterns over a long enough period of time will undoubtedly lead to brain chemistry changes that make them more comfortable -- but that door swings both ways (it can make things worse as well).

3) And finally (as if anyone cared, fuck you guys in advance), I think we like to think that our frontal lobes assess situations and guide us toward action. I personally think that a huge majority of the time, our older brains make the call and our frontal lobes actually spend their energy justifying the decision.

tl;dr
 
I agree with you that they are co-mingled and sometimes in ways that perhaps would not make sense to the frontal lobe. I'm on my phone but will add a bit more later. I've done a lot of reading and been to a couple trainings in the last 6 months on this exact thing. Some of it is geared more to children and trauma but the concepts are the same. Fascinating stuff!!
 
We do a lot of ect where I work and sometimes it's tempting to go for a re-boot! lol
 
mrplunkey said:
I was a behind-the-retina visual neuroscience guy for years, and we used to delineate the world exactly that way. We considered ourselves the "hard science" guys and the psychology/development/behavior guys the "soft science" guys (we had snide names for them, like the School of Arts and Crafts).

The older I get and the more I observe, the more I'm convinced that both sides are co-mingled in some really bizarre ways.

1) I do think that the hard-science aspects of your brain (neurotransmitter levels, overall brain state, synaptic organization, genetic variations) have a huge impact on how you react to the circumstances in front of you. Within that tiny, 2-10 second decision-making period, you're almost 100% on autopilot. Over the immediate time interval in front of you, you're in far less control than you think.

2) But I also believe that the soft sciences stuff gradually remodels the hard-science aspects of your brain over time. The mantra "fake it till you make it" is incredibly accurate. Behavioral overrides of existing patterns over a long enough period of time will undoubtedly lead to brain chemistry changes that make them more comfortable -- but that door swings both ways (it can make things worse as well).

3) And finally (as if anyone cared, fuck you guys in advance), I think we like to think that our frontal lobes assess situations and guide us toward action. I personally think that a huge majority of the time, our older brains make the call and our frontal lobes actually spend their energy justifying the decision.

tl;dr
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That's why I went for the best of both worlds, clinical neuropsychology :)

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Lolololololol

''It's the new and improved 'Cool Fucking Story Control!' Yours now for only $21.50 + S&H!! Call now!''
 
Soulthief said:
Andres Lozano: Parkinson's, depression and the switch that might turn them off | Video on TED.com

Deep brain stimulation is becoming very precise. This technique allows surgeons to place electrodes in almost any area of the brain, and turn them up or down -- like a radio dial or thermostat -- to correct dysfunction. Andres Lozano offers a dramatic look at emerging techniques, in which a woman with Parkinson's instantly stops shaking and brain areas eroded by Alzheimer's are brought back to life.
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does it cure teh geigh?
 
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