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I'm thinking of doing a diet like BFOLD's but...
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louden_swain
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If you want mass, eat like B-Fold.
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LOL, yeah the words diet and b-fold do look funny next to each other.
However, I must admit, his "diet" will pack on serious beef. Thats how I used to eat, and it helped my quickly add muscle to a very thin body. However, I've decided to go back to being slim, so no more all you can eat buffets and stuff like that. I really miss the food. Tuna, chicken, oatmeal and flax gets old really quick.
However, I must admit, his "diet" will pack on serious beef. Thats how I used to eat, and it helped my quickly add muscle to a very thin body. However, I've decided to go back to being slim, so no more all you can eat buffets and stuff like that. I really miss the food. Tuna, chicken, oatmeal and flax gets old really quick.
Spatts and Haz: You two are just tooo funny. I just eat a lot and very often. Also remember that I do actually do a good bit of cardio work (in the terms of events) AND I weigh 280+. At my weight it takes a lot just to maintain weight, much less gain along with my event training.
I do suggest a gallon of milk a day and tons of carbs, tuna, hamburger, etc... I think that if you are eating 7 meals a day...at least one if not two of them should be a forcefed meal.
Eat all that you can. Eat like a horse for 2 weeks then diet for 1...or eat for 3 and diet for 2. Find what works best for you...but remember that when you cut back in your diet...you are cutting back in your strength and size.
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...you want to gain upper body "strength"....does that imply that you do NOT want to gain size???
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i followed a stuff your face, force feed yourself diet on vacation... luckily, most of it was hamburgers, steak, ribs, chicken and fish....and of course a PB& J sandwhich made out of 9 pieces of bread.
Anyway , after that is all said and done, here's what i noticed.
1) i got a tan
2) a bit more defined
3) i have traps now
4) 2-3 lb weight gain.
i like this diet idea... if i didnt wanna keep my weight down, i'd definately do this year round.
Anyway , after that is all said and done, here's what i noticed.
1) i got a tan
2) a bit more defined
3) i have traps now
4) 2-3 lb weight gain.
i like this diet idea... if i didnt wanna keep my weight down, i'd definately do this year round.
Re: Re: I'm thinking of doing a diet like BFOLD's but...
What about Shane Hammond? Didn't you say that he could dunk? He doesn't look extremely lean to me either...
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What about Shane Hammond? Didn't you say that he could dunk? He doesn't look extremely lean to me either...
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coolcolj
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yeah, but relative to themselves leaner they are much slower.
If SHane lost 50lbs, which he can cause he's fat, I'm sure he'd jump another 6-8 inches higher.
These guys both squat a lot more than any of us will ever get too - Shane does 1000lbs+ and he did that at 23!
And remeber these 2 guys are seriously fast twitch!
Most people get fat faster than their squat goes up
I know from experience when you put on fat you can't jump as well and go slower. This happened to me a few years back, just before I got my waist up to 40 inches and 20+% bodyfat. I lost inches of vertical jump
Fat within the muscle causes friction too.
Power to weight ratio is the name of the game. You can increase your weight as long as power goes up, but that usually means functional muscle gain. I gained 11lbs recently, I can jump 3 inches higher and 7 inches further, because its all real contractile muscle, and not just for show.
If SHane lost 50lbs, which he can cause he's fat, I'm sure he'd jump another 6-8 inches higher.
These guys both squat a lot more than any of us will ever get too - Shane does 1000lbs+ and he did that at 23!
And remeber these 2 guys are seriously fast twitch!
Most people get fat faster than their squat goes up
I know from experience when you put on fat you can't jump as well and go slower. This happened to me a few years back, just before I got my waist up to 40 inches and 20+% bodyfat. I lost inches of vertical jump
Fat within the muscle causes friction too.
Power to weight ratio is the name of the game. You can increase your weight as long as power goes up, but that usually means functional muscle gain. I gained 11lbs recently, I can jump 3 inches higher and 7 inches further, because its all real contractile muscle, and not just for show.
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CoolColJ said:well I can't imagine any elite 100 m sprinter bulking and not losing speed
Anytime we are talking about ANYONE who is elite...you are going to find someone who blows away the curve. We are not talking about an elite 100m sprinter...or Michael Jordan...we are talking about a novice trainer...
To get stronger in the squat and olympic lifts (something I feel is primary to increasing your vertical) you need to eat a lot.
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coolcolj
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Well I'm doing both - getting my squat up and my Olympic lifts - hit a pr of 185 lbs in the power clean for almost 2 reps. That's almost my bodyweight . This weight 2 months ago was my deadlift weight...
I'm no fatter, but I'm eating more protein. That's the key - more protein
Yes you do need to eat more, but not excessively more. Just enough for 1 lb a week.
I'm no fatter, but I'm eating more protein. That's the key - more protein
Yes you do need to eat more, but not excessively more. Just enough for 1 lb a week.
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CoolColJ said:Well I'm doing both - getting my squat up and my Olympic lifts - hit a pr of 185 lbs in the power clean for almost 2 reps. That's almost my bodyweight
I'm no fatter, but I'm eating more protein. That's the key - more protein
Congrats on the PR and I hope that you prove me wrong. There is a happy medium.
Everyone just needs to understand that just because someone says to bulk...it doesn't mean to get to 20% bodyfat. I am also sure that CoolColJ doesn't meant that you shouldn't try to eat a lot, and build your strength and your vertical...
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coolcolj
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Yep yep - everyone is different. I guess its the same old Bell curve thing. You get extremes and something in the middle.
Your right Bfold I didn't mean not to eat hardly anything extra.
I just prefer to "trickle" my extra calories in strategic places, morning, before and after training. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a lean dude, not at 12% BF
But I'm not getting fatter which is important to me. Who knows I may end up getting ripped if I gain muscle while eating to same amount
Thanks for congrats - I hope to power clean 405 one day
Your right Bfold I didn't mean not to eat hardly anything extra.
I just prefer to "trickle" my extra calories in strategic places, morning, before and after training. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a lean dude, not at 12% BF
But I'm not getting fatter which is important to me. Who knows I may end up getting ripped if I gain muscle while eating to same amount
Thanks for congrats - I hope to power clean 405 one day
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Hannibal said:
This is a TUT thing isn't it?
no...but you do raise a good point....lol
MarshallPenniford
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I think that most guys in the gyms I've trained in are between the 15-25% range. So, bulking is something that obviously most go a little overboard with. There is no need to worry about that in powerlifting and WSM training etc, but in bodybuilding, if you are natural, I think it's important to keep BF%'s lower, as I mentioned in the other thread.
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Note that most WSM competitors are getting leaner and leaner...
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MarshallPenniford
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Yeah, there is one guy in particualar who is very lean, and quite large -- what's his name if you know who I'm thinking of?
Marius Pudzinaski (sp) from Poland, Jarek Dymek (Poland), Svend Karlsen (Norway)...
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MarshallPenniford
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Bfold - couldn't find pictures of the first two. Oh well. Svend is one huge beast, but in most of the shots that I found of him he looked well past 15%. Some into the 20%+ range.
His home page has a shot of him looking fairly lean though, and his wedding shots are unreal. He looks about nine feet wide in his tuxedo! His wife is quite cute as well.
The shots of him from the Arnold next to Kaz is awesome. You can see just how big Kaz is!
His home page has a shot of him looking fairly lean though, and his wedding shots are unreal. He looks about nine feet wide in his tuxedo! His wife is quite cute as well.
The shots of him from the Arnold next to Kaz is awesome. You can see just how big Kaz is!
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I have met both and Svend is MUCH bigger!!! I met Svend in Boston...and when he took his shirt off...he had ripped abs...just had what appeared to be a belly with his shirt on... Very thick and strong abs...
Not that he was also and IFBB pro and powerlifter...at one time.
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MarshallPenniford
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Did you see the shot I was talking of in the tuxedo? It's nuts.
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I met him the week after...he was huge.
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