Idiots that own pitbulls

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

Can someone please explain to me why anyone would want one of these things as a pet? Why would you want a wild animal that can kill a person to live in your house? /QUOTE]

I seriously hope that you realize that the same can be said of any dog

So you're saying that weiner dogs are wild animals that can kill people? When was the last time a weiner dog or miniature doberman killed a person?

 

[Dakotah]

its not the dogs people, its the fucking owners and breeders.

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I have pitbulls in my life since i was a baby and when i was on my own i have owned a few also. The dogs arent the problem its the owners and what they do to raise them. if the dog is happy and never been rough housed with and anything else that may start a wild root in the dog then the dog wont be naughty.

My dogs are loved and loveable and have never been mean to anyone or anything except their rawhide treats. Big spaces for them also is a must how hard is it to have a big secured fenced in area for them to run in?
Proper caring methods is a must!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[gottipit]

I was always a little scared of pits, but they intrigued me, so I got one. He looks mean, but is the sweetest dog I have ever been around. Real pits are not mean to people. The ones that are, which are greatly over-exagerated by the media, are bad blood lines usually combined with bad owners. Their history involves bull baiting and dog fighting-not guard/attack dogs. The pit bulls that showed aggression towards humans were often killed - how could you have a fighting dog that wanted to kill you and everyone around it too?

He plays rough and is very strong, but not mean. The other day my 10 year old cousin was holding onto the end of a rope while he had the other end and pulled her across the floor. The only thing I was worried about was him wanting to lick her face and accidentally scratching her.

The only thing to worry about is bad blood, bad owners and excessive licking.

 

[The Shadow]

So you're saying that weiner dogs are wild animals that can kill people? When was the last time a weiner dog or miniature doberman killed a person?

the point is that ANY dog is non-domesticated.




Period...regardless of breed



Today?s media is filled with sensational headlines of dog attacks. Routinely quoted in these newspaper accounts are dated statistics from the Centers for Disease Control. The last CDC study released documented which breeds of dogs caused the most human fatalities from 1979 through 1998. While the CDC did an admirable job of studying fatal dog attacks, and went to great lengths to point out that irresponsible owners were the cause of most of these incidents, the media and lawmakers continue to use CDC statistics to substantiate claims that certain breeds of dogs are inherently more "vicious" than other breeds.

The result of sensationalizing individual incidents of severe or fatal dog attacks, included with the use of unexamined statistical "evidence" has created an unfortunate and inaccurate public and political perception as to the dangerousness and predictability of certain breeds of dogs. Despite enormous public and political interest in fatal dog attacks, there is no agency or organization that does investigative work (with the exception of this study) into each of the individual cases of fatal dog attacks and records the number and circumstances of fatal dog attacks on a continuous, yearly basis.

This study is conducted in an attempt to understand the human and canine behaviors that contribute to a fatal dog attack. Only in understanding the events and circumstances surrounding these incidents can we hope to prevent future tragedies.

STUDY FINDINGS:
After reviewing over 431 cases of fatal dog attacks it is apparent there is no single factor that translates in a lethal encounter between a person and a dog(s). A fatal dog attack is always the culmination of past and present events that include: inherited and learned behaviors, genetics, breeding, socialization, function of the dog, physical condition and size of the dog, reproductive status of dog, popularity of breed, individual temperament, environmental stresses, owner responsibility, victim behavior, victim size and physical condition, timing and misfortune.

While many circumstances may contribute to a fatal dog attack, the following three factors appear to play a critical role in the display of canine aggression towards humans;

1. Function of the dog - (Includes: dogs acquired for fighting, guarding/protection or image enhancement)

2. Owner responsibility - (Includes: dogs allowed to roam loose, chained dogs, dogs and/or children left unsupervised, dogs permitted or encouraged to behave aggressively, animal neglect and/or abuse)

3. Reproductive status of dog - (Includes: unaltered males dogs, bitches with puppies, children coming between male dog and female dog in estrus)

It is necessary to emphasize that a fatal dog attack is an exceptionally unusual event. Approximating 20 deaths per year in a dog population of 53 million yields an infinitesimal percent of the dog population (.0000004%) involved in a human fatality.

THE BREED FACTOR
Many communities and cities believe that the solution to prevent severe and fatal dog attacks is to label, restrict or ban certain breeds of dogs as potentially dangerous. If the breed of dog was the primary or sole determining factor in a fatal dog attack, it would necessarily stand to reason that since there are literally millions of Rottweilers, Pit Bulls and German Shepherd Dogs in the United States, there would have to be countless more than an approximate 20 human fatalities per year.

Since only an infinitesimal number of any breed is implicated in a human fatality, it is not only unreasonable to characterize this as a specific breed behavior by which judge an entire population of dogs, it also does little to prevent fatal or severe dog attacks as the real causes and events that contribute to a fatal attack are masked by the issue of breed and not seriously addressed.

Pit Bulls in particular have been in a firestorm of bad publicity, and throughout the country Pit Bulls often bear the brunt of breed specific legislation. One severe or fatal attack can result in either restrictions or outright banning of this breed (and other breeds) in a community. While any severe or fatal attack on a person is tragic, there is often a tragic loss of perspective as to degree of dangerousness associated with this breed in reaction to a fatality. Virtually any breed of dog can be implicated in a human fatality.

From 1965 - 2001, there have been at least 36 different breeds/types of dog that have been involved in a fatal attack in the United States. (This number rises to at least 52 breeds/types when surveying fatal attacks worldwide). We are increasingly becoming a society that has less and less tolerance and understanding of natural canine behaviors. Breed specific behaviors that have been respected and selected for over the centuries are now often viewed as unnatural or dangerous. Dogs have throughout the centuries served as protectors and guardians of our property, possessions and families. Dogs have also been used for thousands of years to track, chase and hunt both large and small animals. These natural and selected-for canine behaviors seem to now eliciting fear, shock and a sense of distrust among many people.

There seems to be an ever growing expectation of a "behaviorally homogenized" dog - "Benji" in the shape of a Rottweiler. Breeds of dogs with greater protection instincts or an elevated prey-drive are often unfairly viewed as "aggressive or dangerous". No breed of dog is inherently vicious, as all breeds of dogs were created and are maintained exclusively to serve and co-exist with humans. The problem exists not within the breed of dog, but rather within the owners that fail to control, supervise, maintain and properly train the breed of dog they choose to keep.

CANINE AGGRESSION - AN OVERVIEW
It is important to emphasize that dogs bite today for the same reasons that they did one hundred or one thousand years ago. Dogs are no more dangerous today than they were a century or millennium ago. They only difference is a shift in human perception of what is and is not natural canine behavior and/or aggression and the breed of dog involved.

Examination of newspaper archival records dating back to the 1950?s and 1960?s reveal the same types of severe and fatal attacks occurring then as today. The only difference is the breed of dog responsible for these events. A random study of 74 severe and fatal attacks reported in the Evening Bulletin (Philadelphia, PA) from 1964-1968, show no severe or fatal attacks by Rottweilers and only one attack attributed to a Pit-Bull-type dog. The dogs involved in most of these incidents were the breeds that were popular at the time.

Over two thousand years ago, Plato extolled a basic understanding of canine behavior when he wrote "the disposition of noble dogs is to be gentle with people they know and the opposite with those they don?t know...." Recently, this fundamental principal of canine behavior seems to elude many people as parents allow their children to be unsupervised with unfamiliar dogs and lawmakers clamor to declare certain dogs as dangerous in response to an attack.

 

[The Shadow]

Fatal Dog Attacks - CANADA

A spate of recent attacks by Pit Bulls and Rottweilers have unleashed a storm of negative publiclity and sentiment towards these two breeds in a number of areas in Canada.

In an attempt to gain a better perspective of the problem with canine aggresson towards humans and to disprove the current perception that severe and fatal attacks is a phenomena exclusive to Pit Bulls and Rottweilers, the following information is presented.
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Fatal Dog Attacks - Canada: 1983 - 2003

1983 (2) Farm Dogs Roaming dogs kill child (Edmonton)
1987 (1) German Shep X Chained dog attacked child (Vernon)
1988 (1) German Shep Unsupervised child (Quebec)
1990 (1) Chow Chow Attack on newborn (Ontario)
1993 (1) Sled dogs Chained dogs kill child (N.W.T.)
1993 (5) Sled dogs Attacked by loose dogs (Alberta)
1994 (1) Maremma Sheepdog Family dog killed child (Ontario)
1995 (2) Am Staffs Drunken man provoked dogs (Ontario)
1995 (2) German Sheps Killed by uncle's dogs (Saskatchewan)
1996 (?) Strays Child killed by stray dogs (Manitoba)
1997 (1) Sled dog Chained dog w/pups (Saskatchewan)
1998 (?) Sled dogs Pack chained on sea ice (Iqaluit)
1998 (1) Bullmastiff Playing w/neighbor's dog (Ontario)
1998 (8) Lab/Huskies Xs Mother & son killed by pack (Newfoundland)
1998 (6) Strays Boy killed by strays (Manitoba)
1999 (1) Husky X Neighbor's dog (British Columbia)
1999 (1) Husky One of 24 chained dogs (Quebec)
1999 (1) Husky X Grandfather's dog (N.W.T.)
1999 (?) Strays Girl killed by starving dogs (Alberta)
2002 (2) Lab X & Rott Attacked in field (Ontario)
2003 (3) Rottweilers Boy wandered into yard (New Brunswick)
2003 (4) German Shep Xs Grandmother's dogs (Manitoba)



It should be noted that there is no national recording system for the documentation of fatal dog bites in Canada. The NCRF, while researching and documenting fatalities in the US also recorded any and all fatalties that occurred in Canada that were discovered.

Since the focus of NCRF's study was primarily those attacks that occurred in the United States, there is the distinct possibly that some additional Canadian dog-bite fatalities may be missing from this list. Nonetheless, this list appears to be the only recording of fatalities available for Canada, and may be considered a fair representation of the types of fatal dog attacks that have occurred in Canada over the last 2 decades.

 

[starfish]

So you're saying that weiner dogs are wild animals that can kill people? When was the last time a weiner dog or miniature doberman killed a person?

LOL at the killer weiner dog...


I personally cannot stand people who breed dogs period. Too much freaking damage to animals of all breeds. No one will ever convince me they are a dog lover when they go out and buy a pure bred dog. Thousands are destroyed for every dog intentionally breed. Go to animal control a get a mutt.

 

[canadianhitman]

Fast twitch, you asked why anyone would want to own one of the large-breed dogs with a reputation? I'll tell you one good reason: anyone that was thinking of burglarizing or even worse invading your home will change their mind when they see certain dog breeds are on guard. My parents have owned Rottweilers for years...fantastic pets. Yet, it's nice to see how contractors or other service workers dont' even dare get close to the fence when they see the Rott. It's peace of mind...better home protection than any gun.

 

[EnderJE]

First,y I hate dogs. I feel no guilt or remorse when one dies. You should to to the Far East and see the amount of stray dogs wandering the streets. You should see how they are treated. Like chaff.

One time, these kids were running over the dog over and over again with their cars. It was very much alive when it started. It wasn't at the end. All I did was laugh and laugh and laugh. It made me feel good inside. Yep, I still haven't forgiven that dog and that owner for attacking me all those years ago.

The people that I was with thought I was nuts.

Now that you know how I feel about dogs, I do think that people have the right to own whatever breed they want and raise it how they want. You want a pit bull? Great! You want it to be an attack dog? Great! You allow the dog to attack others? When then you get jailed or fined or whatever...do the crime, do the time.

After all, if you give a monkey a gun and the monkey kills someone, do you blame the monkey? Or, do you blame the person who gave him the gun?

 

[gottipit]

I would train the monkey to run you over. That would be a good laugh.

 

[EnderJE]

I would train the monkey to run you over. That would be a good laugh.

Fair is far. Just let me take out a few dogs with a lawnmower first...then have at me.