Idiots that own pitbulls

[Dial_tone]

Yeah, it's funny how everyone accepts that different breeds of dogs have certain personality traits, but they can't accept that the hair trigger is one of the traits that has been bred into the Pit Bull.

I think the real issue is the unpredicitability of the breed. Unless you know the whole lineage of the dog you're taking a big risk. Clearly these people wouldn't have knowingly brought a vicious dog into their home with children.

 

[boyer]

Let's make pets, guns, alcohol, cars, risky surgeries, contact sports...the list goes on and on...let's make it ALL illegial! Yeah, you heard me, all or nothing, do it all now. Let's restrict our kids from riding bicycles, swimming, getting on swings, hell, even running, because kids get hurt and die doing those activities.

Let's liquify all our foods, because people do choke and die. Let's get rid of all foods that have bad fats and sugars in them, get rid of all preservatives, medications that have side effects, and lets all walk around in plastic bubbles with steel toed boots on. Never know when you might trip and fall or stub your toe.

Remove warning labels from everything, especially chainsaws and their pesky "Do not touch the chain while the motor is running" warning. I hate that one. Let's not forget lawn mowers, they have the warning to not stick your hand or foot underneath of them while they're running.

Let's put chastity belts on every single individual and you can only have it unlocked at the proper government facility. After you've been tested during the course of months to make sure you have no STDs, you are allowed to procreate with your spouse, then you get locked back up again, just in case there's an STD out there and you decide to have sex with someone else, just so you don't get it and spread it to others. Or even worse, you might be poor and not able to financially take care of the child and it grows up in a life of starvation and malnutrition.

I mean hell, why the fuck not? We're on a crusade to get rid of pitbulls and other large breed dogs that have the ability to hurt and kill people, so why not get rid of everything else that causes more deaths than dogs every year?

You're taking a small problem and turning it into a large one without any facts to support you. Go ahead, make them up on the spot. People have been doing it for years, creating fear and panic just so someone supports their cause and they can get want they want, giving them a little piece of mind or maybe even making them think they are saving the world.

Oh, and to the "pitbulls are worthless" comments, so are contact sports, fast food....

The way of the republican

 

[ZKaudio]

sorry for not jumping on the wagon sooner pitstl...i, as another pit owner have much faith in their loyalty and docile demeanor. I didn't "buy" my pit. I rescued him. These dogs are put to sleep in record numbers mostly because they are acquired in low income neighborhoods by people who want "tough" animals, but don't have the proper means to keep them from procreating or to care for the puppies that result from said procreation. These are the same people who don't bother to socialize their dogs and as a result end up having violent animals. I am a lover of all animals, so when I have the chance to give one of these a good life, I do it. This is my second rescue pit and just like the first one, plenty of love and attention is making sure he is 100% trustworthy in ANY situation... here's some pics of the new one and the good ole girl together

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

sorry for not jumping on the wagon sooner pitstl...i, as another pit owner have much faith in their loyalty and docile demeanor.

Ah hell, another dumbass. Didn't you read the last article? Those assholes thought their pitbulls were "sweathearts" too. Now their fucking kid is dead. Yea moron, it ate their own god damned kid!

What kind of country do we live in where kids are eaten by the family pet? I guess if your kid is eaten by your pet then you really shouldn't have been reproducing anyway. Talk about a Darwin Award!

 

[starfish]

Given the right situation or should I say "wrong situation", any animal, ANY PITBULL has it in them to cause harm. Anyone who claims otherwise is ignorant about animals. But hey a lot of people think you can "take the wild" out of wild animals and tame them to be cute little lovable pets too.

I'm sure tons of people have cute loving pitbulls as faithful pets...put them in the right situation/scare and those jaws will bite..Why wouldn't they?


I work with wild animals all the time...I work with animals who have the jaw strength 10x that of a pitbull....I'll never lose the respect for what they are CAPABLE OF...It's pathetic if you do to the animal....ANY ANIMAL

 

[biteme]

sorry for not jumping on the wagon sooner pitstl...i, as another pit owner have much faith in their loyalty and docile demeanor. I didn't "buy" my pit. I rescued him. These dogs are put to sleep in record numbers mostly because they are acquired in low income neighborhoods by people who want "tough" animals, but don't have the proper means to keep them from procreating or to care for the puppies that result from said procreation. These are the same people who don't bother to socialize their dogs and as a result end up having violent animals. I am a lover of all animals, so when I have the chance to give one of these a good life, I do it. This is my second rescue pit and just like the first one, plenty of love and attention is making sure he is 100% trustworthy in ANY situation... here's some pics of the new one and the good ole girl together

Cute little dog. I don't necessarily love all animals but I have compassion for them. There was a fatally injured snake in the road tonight. I could tell it was suffering so I backed up and ran over it twice to make sure it was dead. Yeah, I'm crazy like that.

 

[ZKaudio]

fasttwitch... these people's dog had attacked someone 8 days earlier, it obviously a. wasn't properly raised/socialized or b. has a past they don't know about. If you put everything you have into teaching a dog what it can and cannot do and it still doesn't follow orders, it's YOUR responsibility to either enlist further help or get rid of it. My dogs will NEVER be a danger to anyone, not just because they would never hurt a soul, but because it is an owners responsibility to make sure they are never put in situations where something aweful could happen. Dogs ARE stupid, i will not argue that. As a result, I wouldn't leave a child alone with a dog that tears its toys apart b/c it could mistake a small child for a toy even if the dog is completely non-violent toward humans... i understand your point but you quite clearly have just not been exposed to enough good animals. I consider you ignorant not only for your views (albeit they may have arisen out of fear of the unknown), but also b/c you are calling me a moron with no provocation. I read the facts in the article before I responded, and i gave you GREEN in the karma message i sent you... the hostility is quite uncalled for. I don't expect people like you to follow logic though so carry on.

 

[Fast Twitch Fiber]

fasttwitch... these people's dog had attacked someone 8 days earlier, it obviously a. wasn't properly raised/socialized or b. has a past they don't know about.

I'm talking about the second article. The one where the dogs had no history of attacking. The neighbors said the dogs were "sweathearts". Those sweathearts ate the owners' kid! Yes, they attacked a member of their own family with which they were familiar with. If these dogs can attack their owners, that pretty much proves how unpredictable they are. Like I said, grizzly bears are sweat animals too until someone pisses them off or scares them. I really think pit bull owners suffer from a serious case of denial.

 

[HiDnGoD]

The results showed that pits and rotts (counting mixed breeds ie. part pit bull) were responsible for about 60% of dog attack fatalities. Now compare that 60% figure to the dog population. What percent of the dog population is made up of pits and rotts? I don't have an answer but let's say that it's 10% (which I'm confident is way, way too high). Even if we take an exaggerated figure, you have 10% of the dog population being responsible for 60% of the fatalities.

However every animal (including humans) has a breaking point where they will fight for their life if they think they are in danger. Nobody, even the most responsible dog owner, can predict what might set a dog off. If it perceives a child as a threat, it may very well attack. .

This is info I was looking for (percentages). While I admit to not knowing much, here, It seems to me the numbers are disproportionate.
If one believes the anecdotal evidence about these breeds & their tenderness in many cases, the questions become, what do we do about the bad or uneducated owners/breeders? How do we discern whether an animal has a good blood line. What is a good blood line.
If a breeder is trying to sell you a dog, he's not always going to tell you it's paternal grandmother was put down for killing a person.
Also, some animals attack not just from a recognizable danger, but just from being startled. Sometimes they can judge small people as prey, & I'm wondering how susceptible they are to genetic disorders, brain problems, etc.
I read an artical in scientific American(I think). It was about criminals & how responsible they are for their actions. After doing various studies, brain scans, MRI's etc. they determined, in many cases, what separates a criminal from the rest of us isn't so much what we do. It's what we don't do. In many cases our subconcious mind starts our body on a course of action, before our brain even considers the action. Then having considered it, we stop. Some people don't have the stop. For some people it is delayed. In some cases this appears genetic. In some cases due to physical or phsycological trauma. This is a gross simplification of the artical, but I believe it is the gist.
My point?
If animals behave physiologically the same, this could be why so-called good animals go bad.
Ya just gotta be careful.

BTW Thank you Zkaudio, Shadow, Gottipet, Dakotah for your coherent arguments. It's not often someone can change my solidified attitudes. While I'm not totally convinced, my mind has been opened.

 

[ZKaudio]

everyone should get to know a nice pit... after understanding firsthand what they are capable (hopefully it will be a good experience) it's more fair to pass accurate judgement.