I Was Busted!! I Need Help!

[Shawn]

i was busted for 1594 thai anabol at my mailbox. as soon as i picked it up, 1 customs agent and 2 sherrif deputies arrested me and booked me locally here at a sheriff station. my bail was $16,000 but i was released the next morning by the detective. he told me i would get a letter and might get probation. this was june 7, 2002.

two days ago on Aug 7, 2002 i received a letter from the DA stating that i have violated section HS 11378 POSSESSION FOR SALE OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE and that my arraignment will be held Aug 28, 2002 here in Downtown, Los Angeles, CA.

my question is, do i need a lawyer for this? what's going to happen to me? i actually called the DA and asked him, he told me it is very possible i could get substantial jail time, up to 1 year. i am very young, never committed a felony before, and 1594 dbol could be a number for personal use. 3 cycles if using 50mg per day for 8 week cycles. i know i could say this was for personal use because it was indeed. please help me before i appear for arraignment. thanks alot!!

 

[Canuck4]

Sorry to hear that bro.
You might wanna check this http://www.steroidlaw.com
and get a good lawyer experienced with cases like yours.
Good luck.

 

[Numberfive]

Dude, that is a pretty awful situation. Personally, I would get a laywers help for anything that could potentially be a felony. How much did you tell the police at the time of your arrest??? Did you make a formal statement that could be used against you later???
Did they pressure you to turn in your source???

I'm not an expert, but this board is a great place to find good info.

Best of luck brother

 

[Shawn]

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yes i cooperated with them fully. the detective and I had a good conversation over this and he was being sarcastic most of the time. this was an order from thailand so i made a terrible mistake. i told the police everything. i let them search my room and i told them i dont have anything else besides syringes, t3 and clomid. i did not make any formal statements that could be used against me. the detective was so cool, in fact, he did not want names or sources. i would never do so anyway, but he still did not want to hear anything and that was odd. i liked it. he also told me he doesn't care about people using it, but when it comes to selling, and getting packages from thailand, he will go by the book.

 

[Zerxes]

Why in the HELL would you call the DA before you would call a Defense Attourney is beyond me brother. If you opened your mouth up and admitted everything already(which I can tell that you did, since you sound like you are scared shitless and probably thought that it would help you out to be honest with the people who are trying to prosecute you--which it won't), then you're already fucked as far as filing any 4th Amendment violations, so your best bet now is to get a Lawyer that can help you get probation. By the way man, since when is "up to a year" signifigant jail time?? I doubt that if that is the worst punishment that you could get, that you will ever see the inside of a jail-cell, especially if you've never been in trouble before.

Call yourself an Attourney who is actually on YOUR side, & commense to shutting your big mouth, before you get yourself into more trouble is my advice.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

i was busted for 1594 thai anabol at my mailbox. as soon as i picked it up, 1 customs agent and 2 sherrif deputies arrested me and booked me locally here at a sheriff station. my bail was $16,000 but i was released the next morning by the detective. he told me i would get a letter and might get probation. this was june 7, 2002.

two days ago on Aug 7, 2002 i received a letter from the DA stating that i have violated section HS 11378 POSSESSION FOR SALE OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE and that my arraignment will be held Aug 28, 2002 here in Downtown, Los Angeles, CA.

my question is, do i need a lawyer for this? what's going to happen to me? i actually called the DA and asked him, he told me it is very possible i could get substantial jail time, up to 1 year. i am very young, never committed a felony before, and 1594 dbol could be a number for personal use. 3 cycles if using 50mg per day for 8 week cycles. i know i could say this was for personal use because it was indeed. please help me before i appear for arraignment. thanks alot!!

what, were they sitting right out side your house? do you have a P.O box?

 

[Burgboy]

No matter what the charge....if it is a felony....you need a lawyer period!

 

[Shawn]

z

Why in the HELL would you call the DA before you would call a Defense Attourney is beyond me brother. If you opened your mouth up and admitted everything already(which I can tell that you did, since you sound like you are scared shitless and probably thought that it would help you out to be honest with the people who are trying to prosecute you--which it won't), then you're already fucked as far as filing any 4th Amendment violations, so your best bet now is to get a Lawyer that can help you get probation. By the way man, since when is "up to a year" signifigant jail time?? I doubt that if that is the worst punishment that you could get, that you will ever see the inside of a jail-cell, especially if you've never been in trouble before.

Call yourself an Attourney who is actually on YOUR side, & commense to shutting your big mouth, before you get yourself into more trouble is my advice.

zerxes, i did not admit anything they didn't already know. they caught me red-handed, and i was booked. he asked me how much he will find in my home, i told him nothing besides what i listed above. i was in a jail-cell the entire-day and night. i was not in a room where they investigated the case further. the detective later came to the jail-cell and told me i dont need to call bail-bonds, and i will be released tonight. so i did the next morning because of a screw-up between the deputies. and he told me i would get this letter. and how can i get myself into more trouble? i am looking for good information from you. please help me and there is no need for flaming.

 

[Shawn]

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what, were they sitting right out side your house? do you have a P.O box?

yes i had an MBE and they were waiting outside. as soon as i walked out, i was arrested.

 

[Zerxes]

Dude, that is a pretty awful situation. Personally, I would get a laywers help for anything that could potentially be a felony. How much did you tell the police at the time of your arrest??? Did you make a formal statement that could be used against you later???
Did they pressure you to turn in your source???

I'm not an expert, but this board is a great place to find good info.

Best of luck brother

Speaking from experience, I can tell you that if the worst punishment that he can get is up to a year in Jail, then this IS NOT a Felony charge. Felony charges are punishable by a year OR MORE in PRISON. Misdemeanors(which is what this will be-trust me)are punishable by UP TO A YEAR in JAIL. There are signifigant differences. I know this dude is shitting bricks now, but I can guarantee you that he will NOT do any time. In fact, if he gets more than 1 year probation, I would be shocked.

 

[Shawn]

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Speaking from experience, I can tell you that if the worst punishment that he can get is up to a year in Jail, then this IS NOT a Felony charge. Felony charges are punishable by a year OR MORE in PRISON. Misdemeanors(which is what this will be-trust me)are punishable by UP TO A YEAR in JAIL. There are signifigant differences. I know this dude is shitting bricks now, but I can guarantee you that he will NOT do any time. In fact, if he gets more than 1 year probation, I would be shocked.

actually, the papers they gave me when i was released read FELONY/MISDEMEANOR so i hope you are right. but what does a half and half charge mean? and of course i am shitting bricks. i am not interested in going to jail zerxes. what experience do you have that you say. please address. thanks.

 

[Zerxes]

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zerxes, i did not admit anything they didn't already know. they caught me red-handed, and i was booked. he asked me how much he will find in my home, i told him nothing besides what i listed above. i was in a jail-cell the entire-day and night. i was not in a room where they investigated the case further. the detective later came to the jail-cell and told me i dont need to call bail-bonds, and i will be released tonight. so i did the next morning because of a screw-up between the deputies. and he told me i would get this letter. and how can i get myself into more trouble? i am looking for good information from you. please help me and there is no need for flaming.

Although I sound harsh brother, I assure you that there is no flame intended, and that the advice is solid. I think that yoyu did the right thing though by being cool with the Cops, but my point was that it SOUNDS like you already incriminated yourself and admitted ordering the stuff, or said that it was yours. In either case bro, you aint going to get in that much trouble so it really is meaningless what you admitted to, if in fact you did. For future refferences though(and especially since you will now have somewhat of a record), I would refrain from saying anything to the Cops EVER. Next time you will alreay have 1 strike against you, and being forthright might just cause you to fuck yourself over. I have been here before brother, so I can almost 100% guarantee you that this isnt't going to be a big deal, so just chill out and go on with your normal life. Since you live rather close to the Mexican Border too, I am rather surprised that yopu would even bother with trying to order overseas mail, especially in this post-9/11 environment that we are in.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

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yes i had an MBE and they were waiting outside. as soon as i walked out, i was arrested.

something is wrong here, it dosen't seem right that a customs agent and 2 deputies have time to sit around and wait for you. did you call MBE and tell them you were coming? how would they know if you were going to pick it up that day or in a month? this story just don't sound right.

 

[genarr3]

You need a lawyer. Not advice from your internet friends.

 

[Shawn]

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by the way, i called the DA for 2 reason. 1 is because i received 2 letters stating 2 court appearances, i forgot to mention it. so it was confusing, and the other is because i wanted to see what he would tell me. i did not mention anything, i simply asked what do you think might happen. i would not lie to anyone here, i can't afford it anyway.

 

[Shawn]

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something is wrong here, it dosen't right that a customs agent and 2 deputies have time to sit around and wait for you. did you call MBE and tell them you were coming? how would they know if you were going to pick it up that day or in a month? this story just don't sound right.

nothing is wrong bro. the order was sezied here at customs in CA, coming from thailand. they opened it and saw it was 1594 thai anabol, so they figured the guy is big, so we'll bust him. they know the MBE address, left a slip in my box, i took it home, and came back the next day. i had somewhat an idea because the slip looked suspicious, but i have always had feelings when i pick up a package. this time it was real.

 

[DaMan]

Which MBE was it? I live in LA too and use one on the westside.

 

[Zerxes]

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actually, the papers they gave me when i was released read FELONY/MISDEMEANOR so i hope you are right. but what does a half and half charge mean? and of course i am shitting bricks. i am not interested in going to jail zerxes. what experience do you have that you say. please address. thanks.

My experience is that I have been there before brother. You will be offered a plea bargain. If there is a Felony charge there, it might be that you were importing a controlled substance, but I'm not sure about that. They WILL OFFER YOU A PLEA based on your priors(none), and how serious of an offense they consider this to be(not too much so I'll bet). The plea will more than likely be "Posesssion" or something similar, and you MIGHT have to attend some classes where you will be sitting around with a bunch of junkies who will try to make you think that you have the same problems as they do. That also might require that you do occasional drug tests, but weather or not they will test for AAS is anyones guess. If this is a Federal charge brother, then your 1500 tabs of Dbol amounts to 15 doses based on the Federal standards for measuring doses for AAS-- 1 dose = 100 tabs, and 10cc = 1 dose. 15 doses would be the equivillent of being caught with say 15 tabs of Tylenol w/ Codeine(another CIII Susbstance). Does that sound like a Felony charge to you??? That's nothing bro. You'll be fine.

 

[Shawn]

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Although I sound harsh brother, I assure you that there is no flame intended, and that the advice is solid. I think that yoyu did the right thing though by being cool with the Cops, but my point was that it SOUNDS like you already incriminated yourself and admitted ordering the stuff, or said that it was yours. In either case bro, you aint going to get in that much trouble so it really is meaningless what you admitted to, if in fact you did. For future refferences though(and especially since you will now have somewhat of a record), I would refrain from saying anything to the Cops EVER. Next time you will alreay have 1 strike against you, and being forthright might just cause you to fuck yourself over. I have been here before brother, so I can almost 100% guarantee you that this isnt't going to be a big deal, so just chill out and go on with your normal life. Since you live rather close to the Mexican Border too, I am rather surprised that yopu would even bother with trying to order overseas mail, especially in this post-9/11 environment that we are in.

if there is a next time, and they catch me red-handed, of course they know it was for me, etc. my name is all over it. how can a lawyer proove otherwise? is this possible?

 

[Zerxes]

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something is wrong here, it dosen't seem right that a customs agent and 2 deputies have time to sit around and wait for you. did you call MBE and tell them you were coming? how would they know if you were going to pick it up that day or in a month? this story just don't sound right.

Bro, where have you been lately?? This shit happens all the time, and the frequency of them has been inceasing more & more post 9/11.

Now, I DOUBT that if Shawn would have let this package sit around for a week or so, that they would have waited THAT long, but Im gonna guess that he went and got it immediatly(or the next day), and it is quite common for them to wait at least that long.

 

[Shawn]

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My experience is that I have been there before brother. You will be offered a plea bargain. If there is a Felony charge there, it might be that you were importing a controlled substance, but Im not sure about that. They WILL OFFER YOU A PLEA based on your priors(none, and how serious of an offense they consider this to be(not too much Ill bet). The plea will more than likely be "Posesssion" or something similar, and you MIGHT have to attend some classes where you will be sitting arounf with a bunch of junkioes who will try to make you think that you have the same problems as they do. That also might require that you do occasional drug tests, but weather or not they will test for AAS is anyones guess. If this is a Fedral charge brother, then your 1500 tabs of Dbol amounts to 15 doses based on the Federal standards for measuring doses for AAS 1 dose = 100 tabs, and 10cc = 1 dose. 15 doses would be the equivillent of being caught with say 15 tabs of Tylenol w/ Codeine(another CIII Susbstance). Does that sound like a Felony charge to you??? Thats nothing bro. You'll be fine.

wow, you have brightened my day alot bro. the charge was a felony/misd i have no idea what that is. and about the AAS dose. how do you know this for sure. really. how can 1 dose = 100 tabs? or 1 tylenol with codeine? this is insane, but i hope you are damn right bro. im just curious. i also must point out, that when i was 13, i told some kid over the phone that i would kill him in a fight. he took it seriously and i was arrested for it. the detective knew about this by the way. does this make my situation more fucked up?

 

[Zerxes]

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if there is a next time, and they catch me red-handed, of course they know it was for me, etc. my name is all over it. how can a lawyer proove otherwise? is this possible?

To coin a phrase..."It aint what they know---it's what they can prove"!!!!!!

 

[Shawn]

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Bro, where have you been lately?? This shit happens all the time, and the frequency of them has been inceasing more & more post 9/11.

Now, I DOUBT that if Shawn would have let this package sit around for a week or so, that they would have waited THAT long, but Im gonna guess that he went and got it immediatly(or the next day), and it is quite common for them to wait at least that long.

you guessed right. i was too anxious to get on again.

 

[Zerxes]

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wow, you have brightened my day alot bro. the charge was a felony/misd i have no idea what that is. and about the AAS dose. how do you know this for sure. really. how can 1 dose = 100 tabs? or 1 tylenol with codeine? this is insane, but i hope you are damn right bro. im just curious. i also must point out, that when i was 13, i told some kid over the phone that i would kill him in a fight. he took it seriously and i was arrested for it. the detective knew about this by the way. does this make my situation more fucked up?

Im 100% sure about the dosage thing dude. Go to www.steroidlaw.com and read up & you will see what I said is true. It is there. As far as the other thing with you getting arrested as a juvy--I'm no Lawyer, but I doubt they will take that into consideration, ESPECIALLY if you were never charged. I always thought that any juvy records were sealed(or maybe even expunged) after you turned 18, but that might differ from state to state.

 

[Shawn]

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Im 100% sure about the dosage thing dude. Go to www.steroidlaw.com and read up & you will see what I said is true. It is there. As far as the other thing with you getting arrestes as a juvy--Im no Lawyer, but I doubt they will take that into consideration, ESPECIALLY if you were never charged. I always thought that any juvy records were sealed(or maybe even expunged) after you turned 18, but that might differ from state to state.

no i WAS in fact booked for it when i was 13, but you are right about the records being sealed. i just dont know why the det. pointed that out when he told me he knew a little bit about me. by the way i am 20 years old.

 

[AAP]

Ain't shit gonna happen to you. Do NOT pay for a lawyer, you can use the court appointed Public Defender. The reason for this, is if you have never had a prior felony, then you are eligible for the First Offenders Program. That is YOUR RIGHT, a judge can not deny you that. There will be no discussions, there will be no arguements, you plead not guilty until your trial date, when you go before the judge, you have your public defender to request First Offender sentencing which will be about $800 in fines, 200 community service hours and ZERO jail time. If you keep your nose clean after those five years, (more likely 3 years if you do your comm.service up front and pay your fine immediately) the charge is wiped off your records. Employers, newspapers, online search engines will never see it.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

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you guessed right. i was too anxious to get on again.

ya that was pretty fu*cking stupid bro! next time wait!

 

[Zerxes]

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ya that was pretty fu*cking stupid bro! next time wait!

Really??? Bro, you are a master of the obvious to say the least! I'm just messin' with ya bro....you're right of course, but hindsight is always 20/20 as you know.

 

[Shawn]

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i am having plans on going to the military and im not sure if the marines will accept me with a record. when i am in court, i almost dont say anything, just plea not guilty right? and just request first offenders sentencing before i go to the judge and let the public defender do his job? should i say anything about wanting to join the marines?

 

[Zerxes]

Re: f

i am having plans on going to the military and im not sure if the marines will accept me with a record. when i am in court, i almost dont say anything, just plea not guilty right? and just request first offenders sentencing before i go to the judge and let the public defender do his job? should i say anything about wanting to join the marines?

They won't let you join with a Felony. Misdemeanors are fine. Call your recruiter and he/she will verify this. By the way bro...if they are offering you five years fucking probation for such a minor offense, then I would DEFINITELY TRY to get a better deal than that, because even THAT is too harsh for what you got caught doing. I know a guy around here that got caught with 16 pounds of weed and only got 1 year probation. Of course he ratted his source out, but that's besides the point. The POINT IS, is that you should be able to get a 1/2-decent lawyer to get you down to 2 years probation MAXIMUM!! If it were me, I would hold out for 1 year. You'll probably get it, and that would be your only reason for going with a lawyer that isn't "court-appointed" I suppose. Probation isn't jail brother, but it sucks asshole just the same. If you get a ball-breakin'-prick as a Probation Officer, then you're in for 5 years of fucking misery. I'd probably take a few months in the County Jail before I would accept 5 years probation myself. My 7-Card-Studd chops could use the work anyhow.

 

[Zyglamail]

Simply hgaving steroids delivered to your mail box is far from a crime, if it was anyone could send steroids to anyone and they could goto jail. I could send steroids to old school teachers and get them arrested etc....I dont think so.

The point is we DO NOT have control over who sends us what. They have to prove you ordered it, that you were selling or what not. You being cooperative and giving up your rights and letting them search your house etc likely did much more harm than good. Get yourself a lawyer, but to me it allready sounds too late.

 

[Shawn]

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They won't let you join with a Felony. Misdemeanors are fine. Call your recruiter and he/she will verify this. By the way bro...if they are offering you five years fucking probation for such a minor offense, then I would DEFINITELY TRY to get a better deal than that, because even THAT is too harsh for what you got caught doing. I know a guy around here that got caught with 16 pounds of weed and only got 1 year probation. Of course he ratted his source out, but that's besides the point. The POINT IS, is that you should be able to get a 1/2-decent lawyer to get you down to 2 years probation MAXIMUM!! If it were me, I would hold out for 1 year. You'll probably get it, and that would be your only reason for going with a lawyer that isn't "court-appointed" I suppose. Probation isn't jail brother, but it sucks asshole just the same. If you get a ball-breakin'-prick as a Probation Officer, then you're in for 5 years of fucking misery. I'd probably take a few months in the County Jail before I would accept 5 years probation myself. My 7-Card-Studd chops could use the work anyhow.

you said you would probably hold out for a year. a year in what, jail or probation? because you said i will probably get it. i really can't afford a lawyer, i make $7 per hour under the table bro doing data-entry. if i go with a public defender, what is the most you think they can give me? remember, it is felony/misd charge.

 

[Zerxes]

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you said you would probably hold out for a year. a year in what, jail or probation? because you said i will probably get it. i really can't afford a lawyer, i make $7 per hour under the table bro doing data-entry. if i go with a public defender, what is the most you think they can give me? remember, it is felony/misd charge.

A year probation. The only thing with a Public Defender is that they have to take as many cases as they get, which leaves them precious little time(or no time rather) to devote to you specifically. Weather or not you go with a Private Counselor, or a Public Defender WILL NOT matter though, since you aint going to Jail either way. What Im saying is that with a Private Attorney working for you, you might be able to cut the Probation time down SIGNIFIGANTLY. A PD is going to try to get you to take the first deal that comes your way, since he is trying to unload as many cases, as fast as possible.

 

[Shawn]

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A year probation. The only thing with a Public Defender is that they have to take as many cases as they get, which leaves them precious little time(or no time rather) to devote to you specifically. Weather or not you go with a Private Counselor, or a Public Defender WILL NOT matter though, since you aint going to Jail either way. What Im saying is that with a Private Attorney working for you, you might be able to cut the Probation time down SIGNIFIGANTLY. A PD is going to try to get you to take the first deal that comes your way, since he is trying to unload as many cases, as fast as possible.

yes i have always figured that. you're right. i really can not afford a lawyer, i have to stick with the PD. i wish i can get a lawyer though. these guys are really expensive. it sucks that it has to be this way. but i hope you are right in that i wont do time and probably get a year probation at most. will the military still accept a felony/misd charge? this sucks, i ruined my whole life. i am going to work now, i will return later. i added your name to my aol list, zerxes, so if you have any time to chat about this, i will send you a message. thanks aot and take care.

 

[Zyglamail]

I suggest you got this link and do some readings. As I siad though I think you allready screwed up big time, but nothing you can do about that now.

http://nolo.com/lawcenter/faqs/inde...DF3E33C7B#268BB6A8-8884-4677-89869B6AD8A75ADA

 

[Shawn]

d

I suggest you got this link and do some readings. As I siad though I think you allready screwed up big time, but nothing you can do about that now.

http://nolo.com/lawcenter/faqs/inde...DF3E33C7B#268BB6A8-8884-4677-89869B6AD8A75ADA

ok so i screwed up big time zylga, what do you think is going to happen? the electric chair? i'll ask them for a fuckin lethal injection instead!

 

[Zyglamail]

Get a damn lawyer and kepp your mouth shut.
www.steroidlaw.com

FH

Too late, he allready spilled his guts.

 

[genarr3]

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yes i have always figured that. you're right. i really can not afford a lawyer, i have to stick with the PD. i wish i can get a lawyer though. these guys are really expensive. it sucks that it has to be this way. but i hope you are right in that i wont do time and probably get a year probation at most. will the military still accept a felony/misd charge? this sucks, i ruined my whole life. i am going to work now, i will return later. i added your name to my aol list, zerxes, so if you have any time to chat about this, i will send you a message. thanks aot and take care.

This is one of those situations where you cannot afford not to get a lawyer. Whether or not a public defender can get you off with jail time or not is a short term issue, a private attorney will deal with those bigger issues as in whether you end up with a criminal record.

Stop being a dumbass. Get a REAL lawyer and don't take advice from internet people on very serious issues.

 

[Shawn]

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This is one of those situations where you cannot afford not to get a lawyer. Whether or not a public defender can get you off with jail time or not is a short term issue, a private attorney will deal with those bigger issues as in whether you end up with a criminal record.

Stop being a dumbass. Get a REAL lawyer and don't take advice from internet people on very serious issues.

how will i afford to pay $25,000 up front man? come on. think about it.

 

[genarr3]

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how will i afford to pay $25,000 up front man? come on. think about it.

Shop around.

 

[Zyglamail]

Re: d

ok so i screwed up big time zylga, what do you think is going to happen? the electric chair? i'll ask them for a fuckin lethal injection instead!

Its hard to say whats going to happen, maybe they will let ya go with a fine and probation and if you stay clean maybe even take it off your record, or else maybe they will make an example out of you and give you the maximum penalty.

The point that I tried to make above is just because you got gear in the mail doesnt make you guilty. What if the source addressed it wrong and it got shipped to your neighbor and he unknowingly got the pack, then he would be guilty as well, which is not the case. They need to prove you purchased/requested it for it to be a crime. The second you opened your mouth and spilled your guts you threw your 5th amendment right in the trash and incriminated yourself and gave them something to work with. Once again, back to your neighbor, lets say he accidentally got your pack and was arrested, he said over and over and over he had know idea what was in it or why it was sent to him. If there wasnt any other evidence the case would be weak at best.

 

[Zyglamail]

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how will i afford to pay $25,000 up front man? come on. think about it.

$25,000 must be a typo. Retainers are usually in th 1-5 range, 25k seems rediculous.

 

[Shawn]

Re: Re: d

Its hard to say whats going to happen, maybe they will let ya go with a fine and probation and if you stay clean maybe even take it off your record, or else maybe they will make an example out of you and give you the maximum penalty.

The point that I tried to make above is just because you got gear in the mail doesnt make you guilty. What if the source addressed it wrong and it got shipped to your neighbor and he unknowingly got the pack, then he would be guilty as well, which is not the case. They need to prove you purchased/requested it for it to be a crime. The second you opened your mouth and spilled your guts you threw your 5th amendment right in the trash and incriminated yourself and gave them something to work with. Once again, back to your neighbor, lets say he accidentally got your pack and was arrested, he said over and over and over he had know idea what was in it or why it was sent to him. If there wasnt any other evidence the case would be weak at best.

MBE's wont accept the pack without the name issued to the one on the box. so i had to put my real name on it. if it were my house, this conversation would have never existed. meaning the source would need to know the neighbors real name on the MBE's box in your scenario. i was stupid. ok i know i fucked up big time.

 

[Shawn]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: f

$25,000 must be a typo. Retainers are usually in th 1-5 range, 25k seems rediculous.

i hope you are right anyway. i guess im on my way to sell my car right now to get a lawyer. and if this doesn't go well, i will have a sad miserable life. esp. without the military. im going to work. i will see you guys later. thanks alot.

 

[genarr3]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: f

how will i afford to pay $25,000 up front man? come on. think about it.

Did you also kidnap someone on the way to MBE? If not I think you can get a lawyer for less with the charge you're looking at.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Re: Re: Re: Re: I Was Busted!! I Need Help!

something is wrong here, it dosen't seem right that a customs agent and 2 deputies have time to sit around and wait for you. did you call MBE and tell them you were coming? how would they know if you were going to pick it up that day or in a month? this story just don't sound right.

We have a winner! There are elements to this 'story' that do not add up. I smell dead fish.

 

[IronFist]

Re: Re: Re: Re: I Was Busted!! I Need Help!

something is wrong here, it dosen't seem right that a customs agent and 2 deputies have time to sit around and wait for you. did you call MBE and tell them you were coming? how would they know if you were going to pick it up that day or in a month? this story just don't sound right.

I buy his story completely...I was busted a few weeks back for 200 androlics I was bringing in fron Thailand...They went through the San Francisco Port. They also had a search warrant and proceeded to find 200 dbol 2 bottles of eq and my ancillaries/needles...I'm still waiting for my arraignment as well. That's gonna be where you find out exactly what they are charging you with. Mine was also on the original search warrant as "intent to distibute" for 200 fucking tabs...You should be fine. I've got a clean record as well and the worst I'm looking at is a years probation and I could possibly get off. Big waste of time and cash if ya ask me. One customs guy and about 5 state drug investigators for $300 worth of gear. Don't sweat it too much...They waited til the regular mailman dropped the mail and they raided my house about 5min. later...Good luck

 

[IronFist]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: f

$25,000 must be a typo. Retainers are usually in th 1-5 range, 25k seems rediculous.

Should be around 3k for a case like this...

 

[Zyglamail]

Re: Re: Re: d

MBE's wont accept the pack without the name issued to the one on the box. so i had to put my real name on it. if it were my house, this conversation would have never existed. meaning the source would need to know the neighbors real name on the MBE's box in your scenario. i was stupid. ok i know i fucked up big time.

I understand the name is required for MBE to accept it but the point is still the same. Hypothetical time here - Lets assume An old friend of mine stole my girlfriend and I was pissed off so I sent him enough gear to constitute intent to distribute. Then I call the local authorities and give them some bullshit story about how a friend of mine is selling steroids and I fear for his longterm health and safety blah blah blah and report that he just sent a package to John Doe (ie the guy who stole my girl). John Doe of course knows nothing of this and never touched gear in his life yet when he goes to get his mail is nabbed grabbing the pack that was sent to set him up. Now, is innocent? He didnt order it, didnt know what it was but it had his name and address on it right?

 

[calkid]

Shawn, drop me an email. I'm a lawyer, and maybe I can help you out here.

[email protected]

 

[Zerxes]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I Was Busted!! I Need Help!

We have a winner! There are elements to this 'story' that do not add up. I smell dead fish.

And what "elements" would those be exactly eh bro?? You are obviously one of those guys who would probably call bullshit on ANYONE posting that they were popped, because you simply dont want to believe that this shit happens, or that the Hacks even care about Juice-heads. Why?? Because it hasn't happened to YOU?? You keep being naive with your thinking, and I'll guarantee that it will soon enough. Then we can all call bullshit on you when you come here for help and see how you like it.

 

[Zerxes]

Re: Re: Re: Re: d

I understand the name is required for MBE to accept it but the point is still the same. Hypothetical time here - Lets assume An old friend of mine stole my girlfriend and I was pissed off so I sent him enough gear to constitute intent to distribute. Then I call the local authorities and give them some bullshit story about how a friend of mine is selling steroids and I fear for his longterm health and safety blah blah blah and report that he just sent a package to John Doe (ie the guy who stole my girl). John Doe of course knows nothing of this and never touched gear in his life yet when he goes to get his mail is nabbed grabbing the pack that was sent to set him up. Now, is innocent? He didnt order it, didnt know what it was but it had his name and address on it right?

Very good insight bro, but I think that he is obviously way passed the point of having any case as far as weather or not the package was actually intended for him, as you already stated. He is fucked in that aspect, but again, he isnt going to get the chair for it either, so it's really nothing to lose sleep over. He'll get probation Im sure.

That being said, keeping your mouth shut is great advice for future refference. Hopefully he will take that lesson with him into the furture if he decides he will continue to juice, and accept the risks that that entails. I think that he did what just about any 20-year-old who is bum-rushed by 3 Federal Agents for the first time would have done though, even if it was dumb. We can't all be Al Capone afterall.

 

[Zyglamail]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: d

Very good insight bro, but I think that he is obviously way passed the point of having any case as far as weather or not the package was actually intended for him, as you already stated. He is fucked in that aspect, but again, he isnt going to get the chair for it either, so it's really nothing to lose sleep over. He'll get probation Im sure.

That being said, keeping your mouth shut is great advice for future refference. Hopefully he will take that lesson with him into the furture if he decides he will continue to juice, and accept the risks that that entails. I think that he did what just about any 20-year-old who is bum-rushed by 3 Federal Agents for the first time would have done though, even if it was dumb. We can't all be Al Capone afterall.

I agree that its too late now, I was more trying to educate him on the imprtance of keeping quiet and getting proper legal council ASAP, even a public defender prior to saying anything would have been a good move. My story was to highlight that without additional evidence, which 99% of the time is simply freely furnished by the accused, the case is weak at best. Live and learn I guess.

 

[chiguy]

You absolutely need a lawyer. Even if all the facts have been established you really need counsel to advise you whether any deal being offered by the DA is the best you can do under your particular circumstances. A good criminal lawyer will have a feel for what the "going rate" would be for the charges. There's no way you (or anyone else on this site) would know for sure, it varies by locality. Besides it sounds like it's still up in the air whether they're going to charge you with a felony (they may have included both to keep their options open). If you can avoid a felony regardless of how great or small the punishment (or for that matter the costs) you are going to be in a much better position in life with alot more options available. A felony on your record closes a lot of doors.

 

[pittbull2]

Re: Re: Re: z

if there is a next time, and they catch me red-handed, of course they know it was for me, etc. my name is all over it. how can a lawyer proove otherwise? is this possible?

Bro lawyers can do alot with a case, unless the person admits to everything, the cops wish everyone was that easy, its nothing more than a money racket and if you make it hard for them then you can neg with them for a lesser charge or none, you cant help if your neighbor gets mad at you and sends you a bunch of D-bol with your name on the box.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

i still can't understand how the customs guy and 2 deputies knew he would be there to pick it up? someone must have tiped them off or something. maybe a source gone bad. there is know way they are gonna sit and wait around for weeks at a time from when MBE opens to when it closes just to bust a kid with 1500 dbol. does this not seem odd to anyone else?

 

[Primal X]

Posssesion of 1600 d-bol would be attempt to sell?

 

[Zerxes]

i still can't understand how the customs guy and 2 deputies knew he would be there to pick it up? someone must have tiped them off or something. maybe a source gone bad. there is know way they are gonna sit and wait around for weeks at a time from when MBE opens to when it closes just to bust a kid with 1500 dbol. does this not seem odd to anyone else?

Considering that THAT is what they actually do for a living bro, then NO, it doesnt seem odd. Besides, they didnt have to wait for weeks at a time. They only waited one day, and this kind of shit happens ALL THE TIME!! Why do you think that people always say to wait a week before you go & pick up a package in person?? They might not wait THAT long, but a few days isn't out of the real of possibility at all. There was a post made by "ironfist" saying that he had the same thing happen for 200 Drol. So if you believe that, then you should also have no problem believing this dudes story of 1500 Dbols if you want to get right down to it. It happens.

 

[Zerxes]

Posssesion of 1600 d-bol would be attempt to sell?

On the State level, yes--although that can be argueable without a doubt!!! On the Federal level, NO! Thats only 16 dosage units by their standards. That being said, Im not sure what the cutoff is between posession and possession with intent on the Federal Level, but I would ASSUME that it would be more than 16 dosage units.

 

[IronFist]

On the State level, yes--although that can be argueable without a doubt!!! On the Federal level, NO! Thats only 16 dosage units by their standards. That being said, Im not sure what the cutoff is between posession and possession with intent on the Federal Level, but I would ASSUME that it would be more than 16 dosage units.

Actually, it is 32 dosage units...But under federal law, anything under 600 dosage units is personal use...

 

[web_dj]

Shit that fuckin sucks...the best of luck to you bro!

 

[Terd]

Does this sound familiar to anyone else?

http://www.wannabeafreak.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17124&highlight=ziplip

 

[argent]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: f

$25,000 must be a typo. Retainers are usually in th 1-5 range, 25k seems rediculous.

Yeah, but he was getting Johnny Cochrane.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

Considering that THAT is what they actually do for a living bro, then NO, it doesnt seem odd. Besides, they didnt have to wait for weeks at a time. They only waited one day, and this kind of shit happens ALL THE TIME!! Why do you think that people always say to wait a week before you go & pick up a package in person?? They might not wait THAT long, but a few days isn't out of the real of possibility at all. There was a post made by "ironfist" saying that he had the same thing happen for 200 Drol. So if you believe that, then you should also have no problem believing this dudes story of 1500 Dbols if you want to get right down to it. It happens.

i know what you are saying bro, but they didn't know how long they would have to wait. i believe his story, what reason would he have to lie? but if you ask me there was something else going on that he was not aware of. it seems to me that a customs agent has bigger fish to fry than some kid with dbol.

 

[Zerxes]

Actually, it is 32 dosage units...But under federal law, anything under 600 dosage units is personal use...

So wait a second then....I thought it was 1 dosage unit = 100 tabs. Are you saying that it is 50 tabs? I want to get it straight if Im wrong is why I ask.

 

[genarr3]

i know what you are saying bro, but they didn't know how long they would have to wait. i believe his story, what reason would he have to lie? but if you ask me there was something else going on that he was not aware of. it seems to me that a customs agent has bigger fish to fry than some kid with dbol.

Don't always assume government or it's employees are always going to operate in a logical way. They sometimes do things for reasons someone outside thier circle would never understand. Trust me I know.

 

[nycdefender]

Re: Re: Re: Re: f

The only thing with a Public Defender is that they have to take as many cases as they get, which leaves them precious little time(or no time rather) to devote to you specifically. Weather or not you go with a Private Counselor, or a Public Defender WILL NOT matter though, since you aint going to Jail either way. What Im saying is that with a Private Attorney working for you, you might be able to cut the Probation time down SIGNIFIGANTLY. A PD is going to try to get you to take the first deal that comes your way, since he is trying to unload as many cases, as fast as possible.

Zerxes assumption about PDs is incorrect. Yes, it is true that a private attorney has more time to devote to your case than a PD. But one, PDs do not have to take as many cases as a PD can get. It's not true in the L.A. office (where I have a couple of friends), and it's not true here in NYC. I do not have a quota of cases to do.
Two, PDs do not try to get you to take the first deal that comes your way. That assumption is the most aggravating bulls**t that I have to confront. There are many times that I tell a client to pass up on an offer that a ADA makes, because I know that in many cases, I can make the case a pain in the ass for the ADA. To avoid the pain, I can get an ADA to bargain down later.

Now for Shawn. Your story is very frustrating to me. I have been on this site dozens of times telling everyone not to speak to the police or to the DA's office without having your attorney present. If you cannot afford an attorney, the state must provide you with a free attorney. Why, why why speak to the police? So what you had a package of Thai d-bol. After you admit that you knew you were receiving d-bol, the case is practically over for you. I implore other members of this board to heed my advice: The only thing you should say to the police is that you want your lawyer. That's it. End of discussion.

You did not tell them things that they already knew. Your knowledge of the contents of the package could only be proved circumstantially. That might have made the case very weak for the prosecution. But with your confession, you made the case a slam-dunk for them. Please, members of Elite, don't repeat his mistake. Other board members have made the same mistake.

Shawn, you never contact the ADA on the case. I don't care if you are confused about the court dates. Go the the L.A. public defender's office and ask them. That's what they are there for. Contacting an ADA is the type of behavior that sends my blood pressure through the roof! Everything you say to the ADA can and WILL be used against you.

Shawn, do yourself a huge favor. Go to the PD's office tomorrow! Talk to an attorney there who can precisely explain your predicament to you. Only competent legal advice can lessen your fears.

Good luck.

 

[Zerxes]

i know what you are saying bro, but they didn't know how long they would have to wait. i believe his story, what reason would he have to lie? but if you ask me there was something else going on that he was not aware of. it seems to me that a customs agent has bigger fish to fry than some kid with dbol.

You'd think they would bro, but I guess it depends on the Agent in question. More than likely, a dumptruck-sized shipment of Uranium-235 destined for Ali-habba-bomthreat skated right through, while this fuckhead Customs Agent was sitting there counting out 1600 little pink tabs. It's ludicrous. As far as them not knowing weather or not WHEN Shawn would actually show up, they probably didn't. They would have waited a few days, and then just confiscated the pax(just like a seizure) if he wasn't there by then. My guess is though, more often than naught guys are right there THAT DAY to get their shipments, and the hacks know that. So they took a shot & they got him.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: f

Zerxes assumption about PDs is incorrect. Yes, it is true that a private attorney has more time to devote to your case than a PD. But one, PDs do not have to take as many cases as a PD can get. It's not true in the L.A. office (where I have a couple of friends), and it's not true here in NYC. I do not have a quota of cases to do.
Two, PDs do not try to get you to take the first deal that comes your way. That assumption is the most aggravating bulls**t that I have to confront. There are many times that I tell a client to pass up on an offer that a ADA makes, because I know that in many cases, I can make the case a pain in the ass for the ADA. To avoid the pain, I can get an ADA to bargain down later.

Now for Shawn. Your story is very frustrating to me. I have been on this site dozens of times telling everyone not to speak to the police or to the DA's office without having your attorney present. If you cannot afford an attorney, the state must provide you with a free attorney. Why, why why speak to the police? So what you had a package of Thai d-bol. After you admit that you knew you were receiving d-bol, the case is practically over for you. I implore other members of this board to heed my advice: The only thing you should say to the police is that you want your lawyer. That's it. End of discussion.

You did not tell them things that they already knew. Your knowledge of the contents of the package could only be proved circumstantially. That might have made the case very weak for the prosecution. But with your confession, you made the case a slam-dunk for them. Please, members of Elite, don't repeat his mistake. Other board members have made the same mistake.

Shawn, you never contact the ADA on the case. I don't care if you are confused about the court dates. Go the the L.A. public defender's office and ask them. That's what they are there for. Contacting an ADA is the type of behavior that sends my blood pressure through the roof! Everything you say to the ADA can and WILL be used against you.

Shawn, do yourself a huge favor. Go to the PD's office tomorrow! Talk to an attorney there who can precisely explain your predicament to you. Only competent legal advice can lessen your fears.

Good luck.

good advice from some who knows. take his advice shawn, don't listen people on the internet. go to the public defender's office!

 

[THE BOUNCER]

More than likely, a dumptruck-sized shipment of Uranium-235 destined for Ali-habba-bomthreat skated right through, while this fuckhead Customs Agent was sitting there counting out 1600 little pink tabs.

bwahahah!!! the thing is, this probably happened!

 

[drveejay11]

Re: Re: Re: Re: I Was Busted!! I Need Help!

something is wrong here, it dosen't seem right that a customs agent and 2 deputies have time to sit around and wait for you. did you call MBE and tell them you were coming? how would they know if you were going to pick it up that day or in a month? this story just don't sound right.

Astute observation.I was wandering the same thing

 

[XCYTER]

If you didnt open it , say you dont know shit about it.
You dont know who sent it and you dont care. Letting them in your house was a NO NO .

 

[biggerguns]

You should have kept your mouth shut. The government is real good about being your friend to get info and then turning around and using it against you. Even things stated under an imunity can get used against you. Cases are built on people talking. You shouldn't have admited to amything. They didn't catch you red handed. You let them scare you into confessing. You should have denied the package. Trust me when I say that the government will fuck you. They are real crooked. Get an attorney, and hopefully things will work out for you.

 

[THE BOUNCER]

If you didnt open it , say you dont know shit about it.
You dont know who sent it and you dont care. Letting them in your house was a NO NO .

yep, what he said.

 

[Terd]

Did anyone notice any similarties between this story and the link I posted?

 

[Burgboy]

Did anyone notice any similarties between this story and the link I posted?

tey let the other dude go....not logical...this dude got charged!

 

[dlcaro55]

shawn

GET A LAWYER ASAP,...FIRST OFFENSE NO PROBLEM LAWYER WILL REDUCE IT TO A MISDEAMINOR,...PROBATION,FINE,...I KNOW CHECK OUT MY JOB LISTING, JUST DONT DO ANYMORE ORDERS FOR A WHILE,..KEEP YOUR GAME TIGHT

 

[argent]

Who the hell orders 1594 d-bols anyway? What a wierd number.

 

[go_hard_80]

Who the hell orders 1594 d-bols anyway? What a wierd number.

i think the inspections officer got hungry, and popped ohh, say 6 dbol, fuck him

go_hard_80

 

[THE BOUNCER]

Who the hell orders 1594 d-bols anyway? What a wierd number.

lol, i think he ordered 1600 bro.

 

[shokjosh456]

If you didnt open the package...they were in the wrong.anybody could have sent that to you.recieving a package is not a crime.We cant control what we get in the mail.If they busted you,they probably have more evidence than you think.re-trace any tracks where you might have left open for them to gather evidence to use against you in a court of law.

 

[xsnrg]

There is one golden rule to follow when in trouble with the police.......KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.I live in Canada and i think its the same in the states,your innocent till proven guilty.You may think that honesty is the best policy,but thats just a fairy tail your mother told you.The cops they don't have to tell the truth and they are not your friends.It is your right not to say anything and they cant hold that against you.Best advice anyone can give you is,get a lawyer.I really feel for ya bro,but what alot of people don't understand is that their mouth gets them in more trouble than anything else.What ever you told them isn't going to get you out of trouble,it just add to what ever they think they all ready know.Please people just remember,don't tell them nothing.The only person you should be talking to is a lawyer.Good luck to ya,keep the faith!

 

[lincoln]

i know what you are saying bro, but they didn't know how long they would have to wait. i believe his story, what reason would he have to lie? but if you ask me there was something else going on that he was not aware of. it seems to me that a customs agent has bigger fish to fry than some kid with dbol.

I agree, how long can they sit and stake you out. It see,s that there are more pressing issues.

 

[Gambler]

First off, I would be enraged over getting fucked out of 6 pinkies and immediately roll over on my source - just kidding.

I was busted years ago FedExing some coke to an old college buddy. Looked at (2) 15 year felonies for possesion and possesion w/intent to distribute. What did I get?????

Plea bargined for a $500 fine, 2 years probation and 100 hours of community service. The deal was originally for 50 hours of community service and the judge was pissed because she felt the whole thing was too easy on me. She said that she would ok the whole package if I let her increase the community service to 100 hours.

Get a decent attorney and relax - everything will work out fine.

 

[dlcaro55]

SHAWN-FELONY/MISD

WHAT YOU GOT NOW IS CALLED A WOBBLER THEY DONT KNOW REALLY IF THEY WANT TO CHARGE YOU WITH A FELONY OR MISD--GET A LAWYER AND IM SURE IT WILL GET DROPPED TO MISD,....

 

[BigGuns2]

You made a big mistake by talking. That is easy for me to say because I have not been in your shoes! Police will try to imply that by talking you can help your situation. That couldn't be further from the truth! Like some of the bros have said, you need to contact Rick Collins at www.steroidlaw.com. It was very inadvisable for you to receive such a large order in one package! I wish you the best.

 

[Pump101]

I work in criminal defense in San Diego. You have very little to wrry about. They will probably drop the charges to a misdameanor and you will pay a fine and possibly be on probation.

Do not speak to the D.A. or U.S. attorney on the case depending on whether they are going to file charges under state or federal. When they read you your rights and tell you "what you say can and will be used against you". They are not lying. Do not speak to them. You will be assigned a public defender from the county office or from the federal puyblic defender's office. Use them. You have little to nothing to worry about.

P.M. if you have any ?'s.

 

[Zerxes]

I work in criminal defense in San Diego. You have very little to wrry about. They will probably drop the charges to a misdameanor and you will pay a fine and possibly be on probation.

Do not speak to the D.A. or U.S. attorney on the case depending on whether they are going to file charges under state or federal. When they read you your rights and tell you "what you say can and will be used against you". They are not lying. Do not speak to them. You will be assigned a public defender from the county office or from the federal puyblic defender's office. Use them. You have little to nothing to worry about.

P.M. if you have any ?'s.

I have read that in your area brother, that they have trouble even getting the local(State or Fed) D.A's to even take Steroid Posession, or even PWI cases. Is that true? I read it in an ESPN article.

 

[BuffEnuf]

Hey bro... I am not sure if I am to late for this but this exact thing happened to me in Feb. The DEA, US Customs and Sherifs Narc units came to visit me after a package from Romania containing 2000 napos was left at my house. I was charged with Criminal Possession of a Controlled Substance with Intent to Sell. This is a "B" Felony, punishable up to 25 years in prison.
This was Feb 19th, and I am still in court over it. I went 6 times already and I go for the last time on Oct 7th, where I will get sentenced. I pleaded guilty a couple weeks ago to to a plea bargin which was, "Attempted possesion of a controlled substanced", this is an "E" Felony punishable up to 4 years in prison. I am getting 5 years or proby out of this.
Are you sure you have all your facts straight about this? Maybe the laws are different here in NY but I was arraigned the next morning after being arresting, not a month later. I had a Lawyer presant at the arraignment (which you should too). Also I cant see why this would be a "B" felony in NY and a felony/misdemeanor in CA. I also find it hard to beleive that they didnt try to get a source from you. They spent a couple hours trying to get me to give up everyone I knew that ever even looked at an illegal drug.
GET A LAWYER!!!!!!

 

[Zerxes]

Hey bro... I am not sure if I am to late for this but this exact thing happened to me in Feb. The DEA, US Customs and Sherifs Narc units came to visit me after a package from Romania containing 2000 napos was left at my house. I was charged with Criminal Possession of a Controlled Substance with Intent to Sell. This is a "B" Felony, punishable up to 25 years in prison.
This was Feb 19th, and I am still in court over it. I went 6 times already and I go for the last time on Oct 7th, where I will get sentenced. I pleaded guilty a couple weeks ago to to a plea bargin which was, "Attempted possesion of a controlled substanced", this is an "E" Felony punishable up to 4 years in prison. I am getting 5 years or proby out of this.
Are you sure you have all your facts straight about this? Maybe the laws are different here in NY but I was arraigned the next morning after being arresting, not a month later. I had a Lawyer presant at the arraignment (which you should too). Also I cant see why this would be a "B" felony in NY and a felony/misdemeanor in CA. I also find it hard to beleive that they didnt try to get a source from you. They spent a couple hours trying to get me to give up everyone I knew that ever even looked at an illegal drug.
GET A LAWYER!!!!!!

Under New York Law, Steroids are actually a Schedule II Controlled Substance. The charges for you would be MORE serious, than for someone in California(where they are a CIII-just like everywhere else), assuming that it is being pursued at the State level.

 

[solidspine]

Call Stanley Easter-Attorney at Law, Costa Mesa, the man is a genius with a Judge or Jury trial

 

[Shawn]

f

ok some facts i need to point out once again. they knew about me showing up there because of one thing. the slip. they leave a slip in your box when you receive a package. this fuck told me the package did fit in the mailbox, but he opened it up and duplicated it one inch bigger in diameter so that it would not fit in the box. this results with me getting a slip in the box. i go after hours the same day and i pick the slip up and take it home. this is what lead them to gather and prepare for a bust. after reading all these posts, i have learned a lesson. i should not have opened my FUCKIN MOUTH! zygla pointed something out real well. but i figured if it was shipped to my name, and i was caught red-handed, im fucked. but the charge is a felony/misd possession for sale of a controled substance, obviously i will plea not guilty because i didnt sell shit. it was for personal use, i could use 500 per cycle at 50mg ED for 8 weeks which i intended to do anyway because dbol works great for me, i was getting a good deal on the thai dbol from someone in thailand who is a very good friend of mine. i make $7 an hour, so i can not afford to pay alot for gear. im just a kid and i dont think this will be big like i thought when i posted this.

but i must say, this detective knew about me sending money W/U and knew where i used the computers exactly in 2 locations. i was shocked. how the hell can he find out my email addy!!

 

[IronFist]

I work in criminal defense in San Diego. You have very little to wrry about. They will probably drop the charges to a misdameanor and you will pay a fine and possibly be on probation.

Do not speak to the D.A. or U.S. attorney on the case depending on whether they are going to file charges under state or federal. When they read you your rights and tell you "what you say can and will be used against you". They are not lying. Do not speak to them. You will be assigned a public defender from the county office or from the federal puyblic defender's office. Use them. You have little to nothing to worry about.

P.M. if you have any ?'s.

I hope you're right bro...I get arraigned in 2 days for 200 anadrol that were coming from thailand. i also had 200 dbol and 2 bottles of eq when they executed the warrant....Bunch of bullshit, they tried to pin distribution on me as well. You'd think those fuckers would have something better to do...

 

[Shawn]

d

I hope you're right bro...I get arraigned in 2 days for 200 anadrol that were coming from thailand. i also had 200 dbol and 2 bottles of eq when they executed the warrant....Bunch of bullshit, they tried to pin distribution on me as well. You'd think those fuckers would have something better to do...

damn bro 200 anadrols? i dont understand how the AAS dose can be justified. 100 tabs = 1 dose. because you can have 100 dbol = 1 dose, but 100 a-50 = 1 dose also? damn you are going to court for 2 doses? im getting arraigned on the 28th for 16 doses. if thats the case. i wish you good luck bro. and to me as well.

 

[dlcaro55]

shawn

sorry for not responding still trying to learn how to use my mailbox,...

 

[dlcaro55]

Re: shawn

sorry for not responding still trying to learn how to use my mailbox,...

 

[drug_against_war]

Re: Re: a

My experience is that I have been there before brother. You will be offered a plea bargain. If there is a Felony charge there, it might be that you were importing a controlled substance, but I'm not sure about that. They WILL OFFER YOU A PLEA based on your priors(none), and how serious of an offense they consider this to be(not too much so I'll bet). The plea will more than likely be "Posesssion" or something similar, and you MIGHT have to attend some classes where you will be sitting around with a bunch of junkies who will try to make you think that you have the same problems as they do. That also might require that you do occasional drug tests, but weather or not they will test for AAS is anyones guess. If this is a Federal charge brother, then your 1500 tabs of Dbol amounts to 15 doses based on the Federal standards for measuring doses for AAS-- 1 dose = 100 tabs, and 10cc = 1 dose. 15 doses would be the equivillent of being caught with say 15 tabs of Tylenol w/ Codeine(another CIII Susbstance). Does that sound like a Felony charge to you??? That's nothing bro. You'll be fine.

Thank you for explaining how the feds looked at AAS doses. I was trying to figure out if they thought that 500 tabs of dbol would be as bad as 500 hits of ecstacy. I know they are different schedule drugs but I didn't know if the the feds took dosing into effect when they decided whether you are trafficking or not. Great info!

 

[the_cableguy]

that sucks yo

 

[xsnrg]

Re: f

ok some facts i need to point out once again. they knew about me showing up there because of one thing. the slip. they leave a slip in your box when you receive a package. this fuck told me the package did fit in the mailbox, but he opened it up and duplicated it one inch bigger in diameter so that it would not fit in the box. this results with me getting a slip in the box. i go after hours the same day and i pick the slip up and take it home. this is what lead them to gather and prepare for a bust. after reading all these posts, i have learned a lesson. i should not have opened my FUCKIN MOUTH! zygla pointed something out real well. but i figured if it was shipped to my name, and i was caught red-handed, im fucked. but the charge is a felony/misd possession for sale of a controled substance, obviously i will plea not guilty because i didnt sell shit. it was for personal use, i could use 500 per cycle at 50mg ED for 8 weeks which i intended to do anyway because dbol works great for me, i was getting a good deal on the thai dbol from someone in thailand who is a very good friend of mine. i make $7 an hour, so i can not afford to pay alot for gear. im just a kid and i dont think this will be big like i thought when i posted this.

but i must say, this detective knew about me sending money W/U and knew where i used the computers exactly in 2 locations. i was shocked. how the hell can he find out my email addy!!

I was wondering about your last statement,were you said they new what puters you used and about you sending money W/U.Don't the cops have to have a search warrant signed by a judge to get that kind of information?Isn't it like a tap on your phone,they need a search warrant??If they do need a surch warrant then ask them to show it to you,and if they cant,then maybe your home free!Just a thought!

 

[shokjosh456]

Re: Re: f

I was wondering about your last statement,were you said they new what puters you used and about you sending money W/U.Don't the cops have to have a search warrant signed by a judge to get that kind of information?Isn't it like a tap on your phone,they need a search warrant??If they do need a surch warrant then ask them to show it to you,and if they cant,then maybe your home free!Just a thought!

Not since sept 11th...a law was passed that no search warrants will be needed to access email