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i put up 235 twice today
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skullcrushin22
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Yeah def. stick with higher reps like 12 and higher. I pitched in college and I got heavy into weightlifting and it pretty much screwed me over. I went front being able to hit 90 to 83 and 84 with no accuracy.
al420
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Reallly..... wow. So all the Div 1 schools w/ real Strength Training programs (run by respected international level strength coaches - some that are Level 1 Team USA Oly coaches) are having their baseball players train singles and triples. Granted they are doing Oly lifts, but if you think low reps on bench press will reduce your shoulder flexability then you need to read up on anatomy.
Congrats on your accomplishment. PR's are what keeps most of us training hard. Be proud of every bit you accomplish.
I know the local Braves scout, and have had numnerous discussion w/ him about their strength training program. He would agree w/ me. Nomar lives here in the off season... I have seen him train the Oly lifts and some type of sideways lunge exclusively - I have seen him train 10+ times.
Congrats on your accomplishment. PR's are what keeps most of us training hard. Be proud of every bit you accomplish.
I know the local Braves scout, and have had numnerous discussion w/ him about their strength training program. He would agree w/ me. Nomar lives here in the off season... I have seen him train the Oly lifts and some type of sideways lunge exclusively - I have seen him train 10+ times.
jiggagold
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al420 said:
can you elaborate on what is good/bad rep ranges for a pitcher? i hear mixed results but for hte most part if you have correct form then your really at no risk as long as you stay flexible and work the litle muscles with 1pound weights and the other rehab stuff
al420
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RC strength, balanced strength between the tendons in your elbow and the surrounding muscles, etc. That is all paramount. During the season higer rep work may be better, I will email a few people and ask.
Off season is how you get stronger. As you know, you need powerful legs to be effective at the high levels. The Olympic lifts are all technical, and even their variations like power cleans are technical enough that training over 3-5 reps is not needed. If you think your 12 rep bench max is try doing your max Split Jerk.
PM me and I can show you some into to the lifts you can start, and how to find a local expert.
Tommy Boggs (#2 draft pick in 1974 or 75) was a pitcher. He is a family friend and I can call him. I think i just may.
Off season is how you get stronger. As you know, you need powerful legs to be effective at the high levels. The Olympic lifts are all technical, and even their variations like power cleans are technical enough that training over 3-5 reps is not needed. If you think your 12 rep bench max is try doing your max Split Jerk.
PM me and I can show you some into to the lifts you can start, and how to find a local expert.
Tommy Boggs (#2 draft pick in 1974 or 75) was a pitcher. He is a family friend and I can call him. I think i just may.
jiggagold said:
Nice work.
Make sure you're maintaining your flexibility, and don't let your bench get stronger than your row. Also, as Al420 mentioned, you really have to take care of your rotator cuffs.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're a pitcher, it's more important to be flexible than it is to be strong. Remember what happened to Jose Canseco when he tried pitching? A a pitcher, you have a lot more to worry about than most of us do. A lot of us (guys on these forums) can bench more than any ML pitcher can, but none of us has a decent fastball.
artificialaspirations
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u418936 said:
Should bench and row be equal?
al420
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Why would they be equal? For a beginner yes, but some people are better pullers, and some better pushers. Once you exceed your genetic predetermined potential then you will see which you are.
There is not one Natl level lifter w/ an equal DL to Squat, and certainly not Bench to Row - I don't think the guys benching 1000lbs can row 500lbs
There is not one Natl level lifter w/ an equal DL to Squat, and certainly not Bench to Row - I don't think the guys benching 1000lbs can row 500lbs
Seems like an interesting article but didn't have time to read 
- he talks about push/pull balance in Flaw #3
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1426252
- he talks about push/pull balance in Flaw #3http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=1426252
artificialaspirations
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seems machanically one would be stronger than the other like bis and tris or quads and hams.
Most guys overtrain their chest vs their back. If you're press and row are reasonable balance you will have fewer problems. Someone was comparing 1000# benches to 500# rows. It's not a fair comparison since most 1000# benches are equipped. Comparing raw benches to rows and you will find that the 1000# bencher is really a 600# bencher which is not that much different than a 500# row considering no one specializes in rows.
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