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I know this is going to get some heated responses but I have to ask.........(serious question)

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Maverick said:
I never said I knew anything about roids, I have heard many different things but I still believe that they cannot be good for you no matter the dose.

yah I wanted to attention, and that is why i started this thread......... your a moron

many people take steroids for the reasons I listed in my thread, so if you cant accept the truth then what can I say ?

I dont know if he had this condition before he was using or not, but it must have put his condition in fast forward.

yah I could have used different wording for my question but I am pretty blunt so I dunno, I just wanted to know why.


You a momma's boy, ain't ya boy....
 
Why would you post something like this? You say you want honest answers but your post starts out talkin shit and asking for heated resposes. I don't get it. There are much better ways to ask the question that you did. This site is getting stupider and stupider everyday because of assholes like you comin in and posting stupid shit like this trying to cause drama. I am sooo tired of all the drama going on on these boards now. Someone meaning the mods chairmans and George need to seriously do something to adress this shit. I started coming here because I was looking for great advice and knowledge. I have stayed because I found both, but this is really getting rediculous. To answer your stupid ass question if you must know. I am taking AAS for medical purposes. I broke my back and got severe nerve damage. Lost all strength in my calves and quite a bit in my legs overall. AAS has been ok'd by my doc, and I have a scrip as a matter of fact. All these sides and damage you talk about is BS. I have talked to about 20 doctors and done a ton of research. So long as AAS are used wisely they are relatively safe. It's the people that abuse them that have the issues. But that is true with anything, drinking, pot, pills, etc. Who cares why people use its there business. I am sure everyone has different reasons who cares.
 
I broke my back and got severe nerve damage. Lost all strength in my calves and quite a bit in my legs overall. AAS has been ok'd by my doc, and I have a scrip as a matter of fact.

Other than hepling bro's like this and being administered for aids patients and being prescribed for rehab purposes by thousands of doctors .............. I would say AAS never did anyone any good.

DOUCHE

Semper Fi, Wait, you dont rate a Semper Fi, let me rephrase.

DOUCHE.....
 
The only serious problem with gear is getting it.

Since 9/11 Mexico has been lousy and there are only a few good domestic sources,

Having said that I am 56 and do cycles constantly, from a health standpoint it has only improved my health, I know a lot of people,

guys and girls on gear, and have never have heard of any serious side affects.

I have to believe most of the people reporting on the media are smoking crack, The worst thing that I have experienced was deca dick and it was temporary.

If you have a positive IQ,

gear used correctly gear and pct only enhances health.
 
solidspine said:
The only serious problem with gear is getting it.

Since 9/11 Mexico has been lousy and there are only a few good domestic sources,
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I was just in Mex. There is AAS everywhere. What do you mean lousy? In TJ every damn pharmacy on the street had shit. They have it all advertised on big ass signs. Sust. HGH Nolva Clomid Deca Anadrol Clen. I was very very suprised. All being advertised huge.
 
Maverick said:
I never said I knew anything about roids, I have heard many different things but I still believe that they cannot be good for you no matter the dose.

yah I wanted to attention, and that is why i started this thread......... your a moron

many people take steroids for the reasons I listed in my thread, so if you cant accept the truth then what can I say ?

I dont know if he had this condition before he was using or not, but it must have put his condition in fast forward.

yah I could have used different wording for my question but I am pretty blunt so I dunno, I just wanted to know why.

We can tell you are very young and in young state of mind. Once you get older 30+ you will change your mind and relize HRT can help slow aging and aid in making one feel and look younger agian.
Maverick said:
I have heard many different things but I still believe that they cannot be good for you no matter the dose..
You mean you have read many things and heard only what you want to hear. Try reading a study using a androderm patch that secrets 3 mgs of testoterone a day to a man over 35+ I bet it will contradict what you have "heard and still belive".
People use steroids and hrt becuase doctors prescribe it to them to aid in health not hurt it.

your questions should have been asked like this.
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Many people use steroids in 3 diff catagories
Low dosage
Moderate dosage
High dosage
Please explain your use of anabolics usage and why you use
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That is simple and blunt. Your question was not it was a fucking hour long after school abc special.
 
chazk said:
We can tell you are very young and in young state of mind. Once you get older 30+ you will change your mind and relize HRT can help slow aging and aid in making one feel and look younger agian.

You mean you have read many things and heard only what you want to hear. Try reading a study using a androderm patch that secrets 3 mgs of testoterone a day to a man over 35+ I bet it will contradict what you have "heard and still belive".
People use steroids and hrt becuase doctors prescribe it to them to aid in health not hurt it.

your questions should have been asked like this.
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Many people use steroids in 3 diff catagories
Low dosage
Moderate dosage
High dosage
Please explain your use of anabolics usage and why you use
****

That is simple and blunt. Your question was not it was a fucking hour long after school abc special.
LMAO! Right on bro.
 
Maverick said:
I have known some people that have had serious health issues related to steriods.....

umm..i think im just going to answer his question :)

anyway my question is why do you all do steroids ?


the fact you need the that perfect body/male adonis complex ?

low self confidence ?

professional bodybuilder ?

I have aspirations on possibly turning pro someday...but i want to move up the ladder slowly and see where i can take my body

that one guy johnathan rowe placed 3rd at jr nationals...then won nationals and got his pro card last yr....so anything is possible...id actually laugh at doing this, but ive made so many gains in the past few yrs..i figure...why the fuck not compete at jr nats in a couple yrs?? im averaging 12lbs a yr of pure muscle while improving my condition..so if i can keep that up??? i think i will do well

want to fit in with the juicer crowd ?

Nope...has nothing to do with that really...i do it for me...and i will admit, the attention is nice...everyone likes getting attention to an extent...but thats really not why i do it now...my goals have changed since i started...

is it worth risking your health for a better looking body ? If you have a wife or kids...... why risk losing all that for a better body ?

this was hands down the hardest i was this april 7th for the West virginia eastern USA's.....i look at it that way too, might as well give it a shot while im still young..rather than be older and think about what could have been..ill do the best i can do, and whatever happens happens....i talked to Dareem Charles at my gym a few weeks ago (yes it was really him) and he told me not to worry bout the size game and just put my pkg together like i have been...that was incouraging...and at my show the promotor and a few judges after the show i talked to said i was the total pkg...that was flattering..to have a pro, tell u that (and the judges). So yes..it's definately worth it...i try to use lower dosages (for the level im at) and not to overdo it while taking time off between cycles and getting blood checkups, etc...but yes steroids can and will wear age the body a bit quicker with extended use for prolonged periods at high dosages..but for me, having a few yrs shaved off my life for the benefits...is DEFINATELY worth it (for me).



flame me all you want and bomb me all you want, I am from the C & C board and can replemish all my karma in a heartbeat. I dont even care about karma anyway

I have no intentions on flaming...but steroids are a sensitive subject if you word your questions wrong ...so just learn from this..and maverick, do listen to the guys on this board who do use anabolics to better themselves..most are actually good guys on here and put their heart into this crazy thing we call bodybuilding, so you gotta respect that. I have nothing against you as i thought the initial question was a good one so im going to give you props for that bro, because people on here do "use" for various reasons...but if you left out the part on "losing family, risking health, losing it all" etc you'd of probably made this thread into a less argumentative one :) The comment on family, losing it all etc is what really steamed up the guys here, and they felt u jumped to conclusions on that one, as i did. The fact is, your bud who is having liver problems most likely would have had the liver problems even without steroids, it may have progressed the disease slightly, but not much..just like flex wheeler and his kidney disease, which wasnt from steroids (i think it was the kidney...not totally sure). I hope your buddy is okay when things are all said n done though, if he has good doc's he'll be just fine, the liver can regenerate I believe, when having liver transplants, etc (but eh...i dont know much about the above subj..so ill move on..). But anywhoo...that is why i use steroids, hope i answered ure questions...and i dont regret it one bit :)
 
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50mg/day of DBOL really isnt that much. He must have been doing heavy drinking like every night or just have had a shitty liver. Ive done 40mg per day for like 6 weeks with no probs. There are plenty of people on this board who have done 50mg/day with no problems as well. Shit some people even do like 60 or 70. You just have to be careful with this shit and go to the doctor every so often. No one should start out with 50mg anyway if thats the first time they have ever used that compound. Always start with a small dose and increase as needed.
 
bigtasty25 said:
I have no intentions on flaming...but steroids are a sensitive subject if you word your questions wrong ...so just learn from this..and maverick, do listen to the guys on this board who do use anabolics to better themselves..most are actually good guys on here and put their heart into this crazy thing we call bodybuilding, so you gotta respect that. I have nothing against you as i thought the initial question was a good one so im going to give you props for that bro, because people on here do "use" for various reasons...but if you left out the part on "losing family, risking health, losing it all" etc you'd of probably made this thread into a less argumentative one :) The comment on family, losing it all etc is what really steamed up the guys here, and they felt u jumped to conclusions on that one, as i did. The fact is, your bud who is having liver problems most likely would have had the liver problems even without steroids, it may have progressed the disease slightly, but not much..just like flex wheeler and his kidney disease, which wasnt from steroids (i think it was the kidney...not totally sure). I hope your buddy is okay when things are all said n done though, if he has good doc's he'll be just fine, the liver can regenerate I believe, when having liver transplants, etc (but eh...i dont know much about the above subj..so ill move on..). But anywhoo...that is why i use steroids, hope i answered ure questions...and i dont regret it one bit :)

thank you for your mature answer
 
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