I fu**** HATE The Term "Cutting Cycle"?!?!?

[aquatic_glories]

Why the hell I see tons of people starting a cutting cycle with so-called drugs???

You are already fucking with your health, and you are wasting it with cutting??? Why the hell would someone first consider using steroids to get down from high BF%?? You should be able to lose fat easily if you have high bf%. In case you think of a cycle, then you have.

If you are a fat ass or can't lose fat, first get your fucking diet in order!!!

Steroids are not for people who don't even know how to eat!!!

( pro's etc.... excluded)



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[g-rex]

that is a well constructed, fact based argument that you put forward!!!!!!! or not

why do you assume that everybody that does a cutting cycle is at such a high bf%? i know guys who arent pro who run cutting cycles even when they are in single digit body fat.

and how do you know that these people haven't got their diet in order? its true that the diet is most important, but what is the harm in taking AAS to aid in preserving as much lean mass as possible.

its your opinion, which you are of course entitled to, just my 2 cents....

 

[aquatic_glories]

most people who run cutting cycles have high BF% .

I dont know many guys who aren't pro and are in the need of cutting cycles while at single-digit bf%. It is non-sense. If you get that low bf%, you are not gonna be able to keep it for a long time . Plus I am not counting the health risks.

If those people got their diet in order, then they wouldn't be at high BF% !! That simple. I have never seen a guy who has a strict and correct diet for a long time and have high bf% . Unless you have some health problems, your diet sucks if you are a fat ass.

Since you have high amounts of bodyfat, you are not gonna lose much muscle at all if you diet correctly plus you might even gain some if you apply correct principles. The higher your bodyfat levels are, the easier it is to lose fat and keep muscle mass. Plus the research says that...

 

[Nomak666]

steroids are used to "build muscle". some steroids are better for a dryer look but steroids itself, are used to put on more muscle then your body naturally can. people do misuse the term cutting cycle. it all comes down to putting on mass and dieting the fat away. its alright to use a low dose of steroids to maintain strength while dieting but i understand exactly what your trying to say

 

[g-rex]

the term cutting cycle doesnt wind me up, it does wind me up when people think that steroids will magicly melt fat off of them though.

considering that the majority of aas users are doing it for aesthetic reasons, then they want to look the best they can..... that is why i think they feel the need to diet even at single digit body fat.

i agree, its unhealthy to try and stay at that level for a prolonged period of time, however like with a bulking cycle, its the food that makes you bigger, if u are not in a calorific excess you simply wont grow.

so cutting and bulking cycles in essence both should f**k you off! anyways i am digressing, its really not that important

 

[aquatic_glories]

People already look good if they are in single-digit BF and dont need to diet more with AAS use. Then it goes out of aesthetic.
Correct, the term bulk fucks me off,too. That's a different thing,however.

I will repeat. If you are a fat-ass , learn how to diet correctly first. Then wonder about AAS.

I hope you are not taking anything personally..

 

[g-rex]

no not at all, i am buy no means a fat ass, but i have struggled to get below around 13% bf naturally.
i am hoping that the tren/test will help me with strength, and that a clen/eca rotated stack may give me a little boost, but i personally would be happy to get somewhere near 10%.
I will be honest, numbers dont bother me too much, if i can come in at end of cycle holding some more lean mass than last year then i will be happy.

sorry if my original post came across slightly harsh, its just alot of people (not saying you) assume that people who are cutting are ALL extremely overweight and dont have a clue about diet!

 

[Olivelawn]

Why the hell I see tons of people starting a cutting cycle with so-called drugs???

How would you keep muscle mass, while droping your calories 500-1000 below maintenance, adding cardio and lose body fat?

You are already fucking with your health, and you are wasting it with cutting??? Why the hell would someone first consider using steroids to get down from high BF%?? You should be able to lose fat easily if you have high bf%. In case you think of a cycle, then you have.

So if I understand this correctly, you're "fing" with your health only if you're cutting? Can you clairfy what you're trying to say here? This doesn't make sense the way it's written.

If you are a fat ass or can't lose fat, first get your fucking diet in order!!!

So if one person is at 14% bf and wants to get down to 7% does that make him a "fat ass"? Hypothetically speaking here lets assume he just finished 2 bulking cycles, put on 40 lbs of muscle and 10 lbs of fat.

Steroids are not for people who don't even know how to eat!!!

Again, if you're cutting your calories by 1000 a day does that mean you don't know how to eat? What if the same person is eating a totally clean diet as opposed to a dirty bulk? Does this imply that one person doesn't know how to eat and the other does? It sounds like you're going off just for the sake of it and not totally explaining yourself.

No disrespect intended here, just the overall generalization of everything instead of pinpointing something I suppose.

( pro's etc.... excluded)

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[eddymerckx]

I like "Lean Mass" and "Bloated Mass".........but what do you call someone like me who uses gear (now) to spare muscle and get strong for endurance sports??? I vote for "Strength Cycle".

 

[EZ_E]

I think what he's saying is that there are far too many people who neglected any type of health consciousness for years and now are looking for a quick fix that they aren't going to find.

Ever see a unicorn?

Ain't gonna see a quick fix either.