I am headed back to bodybuilding!

[WalkingBeast]

?...ok man, but I don't understand at all how Debaser "crossed that line" before you called him an asshole (or somesuch). What did he do? As Bill O'Reilly says, tell me where I'm going wrong here

I read his post three times and found nothing wrong with his advice. Sometimes caution is the better part of valor, and given the severity of Ian's reported injuries, I agreed w/ Debaser to an extent: I think lighter training's not a bad idea, but I'd still consider some therapy, and wouldn't rule out taking off enough time to let things fully heal. That'd mean less lifting today, but would ensure a lifetime of hard lifting "tomorrow," you know?

I respect a man who will say something at the risk of being unpopular, so much so that I will stick up for him if I think he's being treated somewhat unfairly. Solely based on Debaser's advice to Louden I don't see anything objectionable, anything to suggest how quitting training forever is desirable, etc. You understand where I'm coming from.

All that said, Ian's back at it, and sounds like things went well. Kudos, LS I'd still advise you to monitor your joints carefully, but given the kinds of poundages you've reported in the past, I'd have to guess these workloads shouldn't aggravate your injuries much. If they do start bothering you again down the road, you can seek the appropriate treatment at that time, no?

Hey GuldKat! I have no problem with someone speaking thier mind. I say contriversial shit all the time. Just dont like people who act as if thier words are fact. Its the presentation more so. The constant negativity and "I cant" attitude accompanied by the hardgainer excuse and articles that he just copies and pastes with no explanation dont make me respect his opinion too much. Debaser argues with every thread, and bad arguments at that. Im not the only one who sees this.

 

[NWinters]

Hey GuldKat! I have no problem with someone speaking thier mind. I say contriversial shit all the time. Just dont like people who act as if thier words are fact. Its the presentation more so. The constant negativity and "I cant" attitude accompanied by the hardgainer excuse and articles that he just copies and pastes with no explanation dont make me respect his opinion too much. Debaser argues with every thread, and bad arguments at that. Im not the only one who sees this.

Half the threads get locked down because of him....Its hard NOT to instigate, its constant bullshit only he can concede, but he won't.

 

[crew9]

Perhaps the threads get locked down because a whole bunch of people come in and flame?

 

[Debaser]

Perhaps the threads get locked down because a whole bunch of people come in and flame?

Agreed. I'm going to explain something that might be of great value to many here. If you ever took a debate or logic course you've probably heard of the term.

ad hominem

Appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason.

In a more local sense, flaming someone here because they disagree with your views, rather than attacking their argument. A good example would be the genetics thread. I threw in my 2 cents about the existence of the genetic limit (something for which most here would consider a debate unwarranted). All of the sudden, out of nowhere posters were telling me that I made excuses, didn't try, didn't work hard in the gym, and limited myself. Does anyone else see how ludicrous this is? Let's forget for a moment that they ignored my argument and instead simply insulted me. Now, how does believing in a genetic rule have anything to do with my performance in the gym? That's the equivalent of saying that Formula 1 Drivers know their car has a top speed, so they don't perform to the utmost of their ability. This is specious reasoning at its best (worst). Not to mention that some of the hardest trainers I know still believe in a genetic limit. DC believes in a genetic limit, but did he let those thoughts occupy his time? Hell no, he was too busy growing from 140 to 300 muscular pounds. When I'm squatting or deadlifting, do you actually think that before the set I'm telling myself that my genetic limit will hold me back? Fuck no, I'm slapping myself in the face with chalked hands and trembling with focused agression.

 

[revexrevex]

The reason your opinions get flamed is because they are very intelligent and provide another perspective on things, I personally enjoy it

 

[revexrevex]

Louden get better bro

 

[louden_swain]

Louden get better bro

Thanks Rev!!

Things are getting better each day.

I think I will be at 100 percent in the next week or two.

Already, I no longer have patella tendonitis.

Lower back is recovering since I have included some light rehab work.

 

[WalkingBeast]

Thanks Rev!!

Things are getting better each day.

I think I will be at 100 percent in the next week or two.

Already, I no longer have patella tendonitis.

Lower back is recovering since I have included some light rehab work.

Awesome! Im glad to hear that! Youll be back in no time, better then ever

 

[NWinters]

Louden knows!!!!!! (kinda like Bo knows!!!! Remember those days? lol)

 

[louden_swain]

Most of us know how injuries work.

For example, if you suffer from a minor pull or sprain. . rehab work can begin immediately. The important thing is to maintain a good diet and get blood into the injured area. We all suffer from aches and pains from training. . it comes with the territory. It is OK to include some light training. . . if the pain is bad, you can work around the area. . the possibilities are limitless.

Now if you tear (tendons or ligaments). . thats a different story. Most of these injuries require surgeries. Obviously, it is ridiculous to train a disattached tendon or ligament. Thankfully, this is not my situation. I consider tears and breaks to be serious injuries.