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I am headed back to bodybuilding!

Debaser said:
No offense man but it seems like you're ignoring your injuries hoping that they will go away. They will only get worse. As you build up more and more scar tissue, the natural movement of your joints will be impeded to such a degree that you will be in constant pain, not to mention being unable to lift a weight.

I hope you realize that I am not trying to discourage you in any way, only to try and ensure your safety.


Maybe we all should stop lifting so Debaser will stop bitchin'
 
louden_swain said:
Well I have decided that I am going to start training like a bodybuilder once again. This time, my weights will range between 8 and 10. . . I think this will help save my joints. I must say that pwr_machine and needsize have a strong influence in my decision. . .I say this because they have made considerable progress.

In bodybuilding, you can still develop a strong body that is useful for sports.

Here are the muscle groups and the exercises that I will use in my training. Shoot some ideas. . .


THIGHS

1. Squats - 4 x 8-10
2. Leg Presses - 2 x 8-12
3. Leg Extensions - 2 x 8-12

HAMSTRINGS

1. Lying Leg Curls - 4 x 8-12

BACK

1. Barbell Rows - 3 x 8-10
2. Seated Pulley Rows - 3 x 8-10
3. Partial Deadlifts - 3 x 8-10
4. Dumbbell Shrugs - 3 x 8-12

CHEST

1. Incline Barbell Presses - 3 x 8-10
2. Hammer Strength Flat Presses - 2 x 8-10
3. Flat DB Flyes - 2 x 8-12

DELTS

1. Seated Barbell Presses - 3 x 8-10
2. Up Right Rows - 3 x 8-10
3. Dumbbell Laterals - 3 x 8-10

TRICEPS

1. Lying French Presses - 3 x 8-10
2. Cable Press-Downs - 3 x 8-10

BICEPS

1. Barbell Curls - 3 x 8-10
2. Incline DB Curls - 2 x 8-10

FOREARMS

1. Behind the Back Wrist Curls - 3 x 8-10
2. Reverse Barbell Wrist Curls - 3 x 8-10

CALVES

1. Standing Toe Raises - 3 x 8-10
2. Seated Toe Raises - 3 x 8-10

ABS

1. Pulley Crunches - 1 x 40
2. Decline Crunches - 1 x 40
3. Reverse Crunches - 1 x 25

This is a lot more volume that I am used to, but I think it will be good for building some muscular endurance.

What do you guys think??

It will definately be easier on your body. I was doing 5x5, 5x3 for so long that i think I damaged all my joints. I am now on HST and I feel far better. although the higher reps at times make feel like puking.:D The growth seems to be good and strenght so far is good too.
 
Louden, you WILL grow with your new split and you WILL see some awesome gains.

I recently went over to the BB side, and haven't looked back since. My elbow doesn't hurt anymore, my shoulder doesn't hurt anymore, and my body as a whole feels more solid and endured. One things for sure, I can now move MUCH more weight many more times than when I was powerlifting. Now each muscle feels like it can keep going and going no matter how hard I push.

Good luck Swain, you will definately see new growth and less pain.


Josh
 
WalkingBeast said:


haha I had a slightly different , more violent suggestion

I'm starting to think you're just a troll. And a stupid one at that.
 
NWinters said:

Maybe we all should stop lifting so Debaser will stop bitchin'

Err...why are you and WB busting his chops about that advice?

Louden's injuries have caused him some pretty serious pain; he NEEDS someone to tell him what Debaser just did. Yeah, it'd entail some time off, but so what? Better to take off time now, heal up and receive some treatment than to make things worse and not be able to lift at all, no?

Debaser never said Louden should just quit lifting forever. Please, lay off guys...this is getting seriously uncool.
 
Debaser said:


I'm starting to think you're just a troll. And a stupid one at that.

Perhaps this was a bit hasty. Allow me to explain WHY I said this:

Elitefitness is a DISCUSSION BOARD. Many of us would like to take it a step further and call it a COMMUNITY. Maybe you missed Louden's post where he had a laundry list of injuries, probably all amassed from his several years of training (most injuries will only get worse not being addressed). Now, WHAT GOOD does it do for you to be a mindless automoton and simply say "HELL YEAH! HIT THAT SHIT HARD BRO!" I mean, you basically said the EXACT SAME THING to a TEENAGER who is going to use a gram of gear when he's 180 lbs at 6'3" tall. You're doing a serious disservice and rationalizing things for posters, which is EXACTLY what they want to hear. You have no concern for their safety in either case (and who knows what other posts). And you say that I'm an asshole (and also make up something I didn't say) for trying to open his eyes to his health, which is surely at hand. You are the irresponsible one, and exactly what these posters DO NOT need.
 
Well folks,

I did put in a session last night. . I didn't post because I was too tired. Here is how it went:

1. Barbell Rows - 135lbs x 10, 225lbs x 10, 255lbs x 10, 275lbs x 10
2. Seated Pulley Rows - 150lbs x 10, 200lbs x 10, 220lbs x 10
3. Dumbbell Shrugs - 120lbs x 12, 120lbs x 12, 120lbs x 12
4. Hyperextensions - 2 x 25 @ bodyweight

1. Standing EZ Bar Curls - 3 x 10 @ 70lbs

1. Dumbbell Wrist Curls - 3 x 10 @ 30lbs
2. Reverse Barbell Wrist Curls - 3 x 10 @ 60lbs

Everything felt great and I broke a good sweat. Most of all, I didn't feel any negative pain in any of the joints!!! My body is feeling better each day. . there are some minor aches and pains here and there.

Here is the plan for tomorrow:

1. Squats - 135lbs x 10, 225lbs x 10, 275lbs x 10, 335lbs x 10
2. Leg Presses - 6pps x 10, 8pps x 10
3. Leg Extensions - 150lbs x 10, 180lbs x 10
4. Lying Leg Curls - 80lbs x 10, 100lbs x 10, 120lbs x 10

1. Seated Toe Raises - 2ps x 40, 3ps x 20, 3.5ps x 15, 4 ps x 12
2. Standing Toe Raises - 200lbs 12, 250lbs x 10

1. Pulley Crunches - 1 x 40
2. Decline Crunches - 1 x 40
3. Reverse Crunches - 1 x 40


The lighter weights feel great. . .I feel like I can get a nice supply of blood around the muscles, tendons, and ligaments.

Thanks for all of the suggestions.. keep your comments coming.

I am still unsure on how I will design a split routine.
 
Nice workout swain. I hope all goes well for you with your decision. Continue to post your progress bud.

Go hit the buffet broly.
 
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