How much is enough to become big?

[Snake-89]

Hey guys,

If a man trains properly, rests properly and eats properly
is 500mg Testosterone -e enough for him to become big?
I don´t mean fit or anything like that I mean to become Bodybuilder big?
In my country Sweden I got flamed for asking this question and I was told
I was insane even thinking about becoming big on 500mg Testosterone and that I atleast should raise it up to 1g weekly to get somewhat big because the real pros cycle between 2-3 g weekly combined with other orals all year around.
I do realise I wont become big in only one cycle I have just started my second I just want to ask if I have any hopes of becoming big on 500mg or if I should bump it up to 1g weekly and add Dianabol into the equation.

Thanks for the help and I hope I havent asked a too stupid question

 

[RADAR]

Hey guys,

If a man trains properly, rests properly and eats properly
is 500mg Testosterone -e enough for him to become big?
I don´t mean fit or anything like that I mean to become Bodybuilder big?
In my country Sweden I got flamed for asking this question and I was told
I was insane even thinking about becoming big on 500mg Testosterone and that I atleast should raise it up to 1g weekly to get somewhat big because the real pros cycle between 2-3 g weekly combined with other orals all year around.
I do realise I wont become big in only one cycle I have just started my second I just want to ask if I have any hopes of becoming big on 500mg or if I should bump it up to 1g weekly and add Dianabol into the equation.

Thanks for the help and I hope I havent asked a too stupid question

No because Rome wasn't built in a day.
I started many many moons ago building my foundation this took almost 30yrs of triel and error,and trying everything out there,we had no internet back then but we had muscle mags most was hype.Every musclebuilding kit (remember cybergenics) every supplement (remember Androsterone) there was out there i have tried,i paid my dues in the gym and my first cycle in my early 30's was Dbol,i took them Low dosage dosage for 5 months that 100 pills,gained a whopping 30 pounds of solid muscle. the foundation makes the frame,you want a bodybuilding frame? build a foundation.

RADAR

 

[2evil]

No because Rome wasn't built in a day.
I started many many moons ago building my foundation this took almost 30yrs of triel and error,and trying everything out there,we had no internet back then but we had muscle mags most was hype.Every musclebuilding kit (remember cybergenics) every supplement (remember Androsterone) there was out there i have tried,i paid my dues in the gym and my first cycle in my early 30's was Dbol,i took them Low dosage dosage for 5 months that 100 pills,gained a whopping 30 pounds of solid muscle. the foundation makes the frame,you want a bodybuilding frame? build a foundation.

RADAR

Good answer.

Didn't really know where to begin with this "question."

No, don't start at 1G of gear!

Do tell us more: Age, training and diet experience!

 

[goin on 4T]

Please don't listen to knuckle heads, do your own due dilegence and be safe and smart! Its the dumb ones that don't do research or ask questions that end up all messed up. Start with knowledge and build a solid base!

 

[eClenbuterol]

No because Rome wasn't built in a day.
I started many many moons ago building my foundation this took almost 30yrs of triel and error,and trying everything out there,we had no internet back then but we had muscle mags most was hype.Every musclebuilding kit (remember cybergenics) every supplement (remember Androsterone) there was out there i have tried,i paid my dues in the gym and my first cycle in my early 30's was Dbol,i took them Low dosage dosage for 5 months that 100 pills,gained a whopping 30 pounds of solid muscle. the foundation makes the frame,you want a bodybuilding frame? build a foundation.

RADAR

Now that is a spot on quality response,i wish everyone who takes up this sport takes this advice.

 

[Snake-89]

Good answer.

Didn't really know where to begin with this "question."

No, don't start at 1G of gear!

Do tell us more: Age, training and diet experience!

I am 20 years old, I have been Bodybuilding off and on since I was 14 years old but only the last 2 years seriously

I weigh somewhere around 95kg

I am 6,2 ft tall


even though training with sports and bodybuilding all these years I never managed to attain a impressive or good physique and I have always had a bf level somewhere around 18%
one day I sickened of training like a jackass with no results whatsoever and beeing way behind my friends even though I had trained longer than them, ate better then them, and trained better than them, there had to be something wrong with me so I went to the doc and checked my Testosterone levels, I got to know that my levels were 14nmo/L in a scale between 9-28 which means I had the test levels of a 70 yeard old ( slight exaggeration)
I had little beard growth and a light voice like that of an 14 year old

so I checked around for solutions and tried prohormones for the first time in my life, I liked hte feeling and the results so I decided to change to AAS , hey I´d probably get a prescription for Nebido or a test shot every second week so why not take it in my own hands and do it properly, it is worth mentioning that I read about AAS for about 8 months before I jumped on my first real cycle.

14 weeks of Testosterone-e-c with front on the first two shots 1g
and the first 4 weeks with 70mg Dianabol ED

I loved the results, kept most of the weight with a proper PCT and started getting positive comments about my new physique, I experienced no side effects and my balls returned to buisness rather fast.

now I have bought a lot of Human grade Testosterone from Galenika and plan to either jump on a 18 weeks Testosterone-e 1g EW and the first 4 weeks 100mg Dianabol

or 40 or more weeks with Testosterone-e 500mg EW and 100mg Dianabol week 1-4 and 36-40

I realise I started juicing really young I should atleast had waited for one more year, but I feel my body is fully grown since long ago and I have left puberty some years ago.

 

[downunder hunter]

I am 20 years old, I have been Bodybuilding off and on since I was 14 years old but only the last 2 years seriously

I weigh somewhere around 95kg

I am 6,2 ft tall


even though training with sports and bodybuilding all these years I never managed to attain a impressive or good physique and I have always had a bf level somewhere around 18%
one day I sickened of training like a jackass with no results whatsoever and beeing way behind my friends even though I had trained longer than them, ate better then them, and trained better than them, there had to be something wrong with me so I went to the doc and checked my Testosterone levels, I got to know that my levels were 14nmo/L in a scale between 9-28 which means I had the test levels of a 70 yeard old ( slight exaggeration)
I had little beard growth and a light voice like that of an 14 year old

so I checked around for solutions and tried prohormones for the first time in my life, I liked hte feeling and the results so I decided to change to AAS , hey I´d probably get a prescription for Nebido or a test shot every second week so why not take it in my own hands and do it properly, it is worth mentioning that I read about AAS for about 8 months before I jumped on my first real cycle.

14 weeks of Testosterone-e-c with front on the first two shots 1g
and the first 4 weeks with 70mg Dianabol ED

I loved the results, kept most of the weight with a proper PCT and started getting positive comments about my new physique, I experienced no side effects and my balls returned to buisness rather fast.

now I have bought a lot of Human grade Testosterone from Galenika and plan to either jump on a 18 weeks Testosterone-e 1g EW and the first 4 weeks 100mg Dianabol

or 40 or more weeks with Testosterone-e 500mg EW and 100mg Dianabol week 1-4 and 36-40

I realise I started juicing really young I should atleast had waited for one more year, but I feel my body is fully grown since long ago and I have left puberty some years ago.

Fuck bro thats alot of gear your not going to live a long and prosporus life if your doing a gram of gear for 18 weeks and 100mgs of dianobols when your 20 years old!! c'mon whats more important your health or having big muscles fuckin hell, you can half everything and get the results you want with a good traiinng regime and diet. Research mate there is so many ways to train you probably havent been doing things right for your body type, work on your diet too, a tonne of gear isnt the answer!

 

[Nelson Montana]

If you adapt the bodybuilding lifestyle and add a little enhancement, you can accomplish great things.

If you just look for the answers in a vial, you will be a loser.

 

[mrplunkey]

Hey guys,

If a man trains properly, rests properly and eats properly
is 500mg Testosterone -e enough for him to become big?
I don´t mean fit or anything like that I mean to become Bodybuilder big?
In my country Sweden I got flamed for asking this question and I was told
I was insane even thinking about becoming big on 500mg Testosterone and that I atleast should raise it up to 1g weekly to get somewhat big because the real pros cycle between 2-3 g weekly combined with other orals all year around.
I do realise I wont become big in only one cycle I have just started my second I just want to ask if I have any hopes of becoming big on 500mg or if I should bump it up to 1g weekly and add Dianabol into the equation.

Thanks for the help and I hope I havent asked a too stupid question

Start very low and slowly build-up to meet your goals. The question your should ask each cycle is: "Based on my individual response to testosterone, what's the absolute minimum dose what will meet my goals and be safe as well?". My first cycle (at age 36) was only 200 mg of testosterone cypionate. I've done up to 500 mg/week, but I'm actually much happier and feel much better with 300 mg/week of test ethanate.

Remember that with steroids, less is always more. You want to bare minimum dose necessary to reach your goals.

 

[RickO'Shea]

No because Rome wasn't built in a day.
I started many many moons ago building my foundation this took almost 30yrs of triel and error,and trying everything out there,we had no internet back then but we had muscle mags most was hype.Every musclebuilding kit (remember cybergenics) every supplement (remember Androsterone) there was out there i have tried,i paid my dues in the gym and my first cycle in my early 30's was Dbol,i took them Low dosage dosage for 5 months that 100 pills,gained a whopping 30 pounds of solid muscle. the foundation makes the frame,you want a bodybuilding frame? build a foundation.

RADAR

This is SCRIPTURE from the book of Radarius 3:16

 

[drow]

i am 20 years old, i have been bodybuilding off and on since i was 14 years old but only the last 2 years seriously

i weigh somewhere around 95kg

i am 6,2 ft tall


even though training with sports and bodybuilding all these years i never managed to attain a impressive or good physique and i have always had a bf level somewhere around 18%
one day i sickened of training like a jackass with no results whatsoever and beeing way behind my friends even though i had trained longer than them, ate better then them, and trained better than them, there had to be something wrong with me so i went to the doc and checked my testosterone levels, i got to know that my levels were 14nmo/l in a scale between 9-28 which means i had the test levels of a 70 yeard old ( slight exaggeration)
i had little beard growth and a light voice like that of an 14 year old

so i checked around for solutions and tried prohormones for the first time in my life, i liked hte feeling and the results so i decided to change to aas , hey i´d probably get a prescription for nebido or a test shot every second week so why not take it in my own hands and do it properly, it is worth mentioning that i read about aas for about 8 months before i jumped on my first real cycle.

14 weeks of testosterone-e-c with front on the first two shots 1g
and the first 4 weeks with 70mg dianabol ed

i loved the results, kept most of the weight with a proper pct and started getting positive comments about my new physique, i experienced no side effects and my balls returned to buisness rather fast.

Now i have bought a lot of human grade testosterone from galenika and plan to either jump on a 18 weeks testosterone-e 1g ew and the first 4 weeks 100mg dianabol

or 40 or more weeks with testosterone-e 500mg ew and 100mg dianabol week 1-4 and 36-40

i realise i started juicing really young i should atleast had waited for one more year, but i feel my body is fully grown since long ago and i have left puberty some years ago.

wow!

 

[truckdaddy]

gotta eat!

 

[2evil]

Sorry bro, being 20 we can't help you. Against the rules here and we'd be banned. You can research and read and take the advice in this and other threads. I wish you well.

 

[d baller]

Kid, I can identify with your situation. I'm 36 years old, and have struggled my whole life to develop a masculine build. It sounds like we have similar gentics. I'm 6'1 inches and weigh about 190lbs (85Kg). I was always a big, doughy kid, I have a baby face, a relatively high voice, and am not very muscular. If I stopped lifting weights I would lose most of my muscle in about 3 months. I'm just not genetically gifted, but I do have a good frame.

Yes, like you, I felt the need to use anabolics at a young age. When I was 22 I did a 6 week cycle of Deca 200mg/wk. I got great results! In fact, I think it changed my body composition permanently. I got up to about 200 lbs from 185 lbs and was leaner than ever. That was 15 years ago, so I didn't know that I was supposed to do PCT. Since it was such a short cycle and I was young, I probably recoved almost 100%. Then when I was 25 I did a 10 week cycle of EQ 200mg/wk and Primo 200mg/wk. I got awesome results for the first 4 -6 weeks, then I guess my natural test shut down and I didn't make any more gains. Again, I didn't know about PCT, so I crashed afterward. I don't think I ever recovered. Then to add insult to injury, I went on Propecia for the next 5 years. My libido was shot and I was depressed for most of my late 20's. I tried some natural supps and got my libido back for a while, but I'm having problems again. Well, I don't want to bore you, but my personal bullshit...my point is - be smart, educate yourself, know what you're doing, and do everything in moderation. You can get phenomenal results off of very little drugs. You don't need to take a ton of shit to grow. Start slow, eat clean and often, work out hard, and DON'T OVERTRAIN! For guys like us, less is more when it comes to working out.

I've noticed over the years, that my body responds better to low volume, high intensity, heavy lifting, with a lot of rest between workouts. I just finished reading a great book [The New High Intensity Training: The Best Muscle-Building System You've Never Tried by Ellington Darden Ph.D.] and have incorporated a lot of the authors principles into my workout and I'm getting great results. To finish an earlier thought, I have recently come to find out that I have extremely low natural testosterone levels 264ng/NL. This could be a result of my steroid use with no PCT many years ago, or I might just have been born this way. I'm actually going to doctors now to try to figure this out. Anyhow, I've created a modified version of the H.I.T. workout that is putting size and strength on me even with low natural testosterone at the age of 36. Again, you don't need a lot of drugs. You just have to find the diet and workout that works best for your body type and genetic makeup.

PM me if you're interested in the workout.

I am 20 years old, I have been Bodybuilding off and on since I was 14 years old but only the last 2 years seriously

I weigh somewhere around 95kg

I am 6,2 ft tall


even though training with sports and bodybuilding all these years I never managed to attain a impressive or good physique and I have always had a bf level somewhere around 18%
one day I sickened of training like a jackass with no results whatsoever and beeing way behind my friends even though I had trained longer than them, ate better then them, and trained better than them, there had to be something wrong with me so I went to the doc and checked my Testosterone levels, I got to know that my levels were 14nmo/L in a scale between 9-28 which means I had the test levels of a 70 yeard old ( slight exaggeration)
I had little beard growth and a light voice like that of an 14 year old

so I checked around for solutions and tried prohormones for the first time in my life, I liked hte feeling and the results so I decided to change to AAS , hey I´d probably get a prescription for Nebido or a test shot every second week so why not take it in my own hands and do it properly, it is worth mentioning that I read about AAS for about 8 months before I jumped on my first real cycle.

14 weeks of Testosterone-e-c with front on the first two shots 1g
and the first 4 weeks with 70mg Dianabol ED

I loved the results, kept most of the weight with a proper PCT and started getting positive comments about my new physique, I experienced no side effects and my balls returned to buisness rather fast.

now I have bought a lot of Human grade Testosterone from Galenika and plan to either jump on a 18 weeks Testosterone-e 1g EW and the first 4 weeks 100mg Dianabol

or 40 or more weeks with Testosterone-e 500mg EW and 100mg Dianabol week 1-4 and 36-40

I realise I started juicing really young I should atleast had waited for one more year, but I feel my body is fully grown since long ago and I have left puberty some years ago.

 

[RADAR]

Excellent advice^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

RADAR

 

[metalfujimi]

bro, those doses for your cycle experience are way to much. Your ability to get big should come from diet and training, not AAS. Without any extra test, you should be able to grow with just diet and training. Once this is maximized, then you start adding gear, but at a slow start.