How long is too long?

[the elite addict]

ive been on some 6 months now. I hope I can produce healthy sperm at some point and make some babies. That is the only thing that I worry about. Fuck the rest

 

[airsmith2k]

ive been on some 6 months now. I hope I can produce healthy sperm at some point and make some babies. That is the only thing that I worry about. Fuck the rest

ive been on over 2 yrs my hpta is prolly shot but im only 24 who knows i could recover i think

 

[nzrodney]

the elite addict & airsmith, Bros I know guys who have been on gear for a while & still managed to get some swimmers into the egg department. But I would sugest that you need to haul back from time to time to let your body stabilise & recover. There is plenty of good PCT options to use.

 

[Style]

Would there be much difference in shutdown between a 3 and 4 week cycle? ( I know both are short!)

 

[goku_kakarot77]

In my personal experience my gains "stops" after about 13-16 weeks. That's way I run my cycles for 12-15 weeks.

i would like to know from others if gains really do stop in the middle of cycle

 

[airsmith2k]

the elite addict & airsmith, Bros I know guys who have been on gear for a while & still managed to get some swimmers into the egg department. But I would sugest that you need to haul back from time to time to let your body stabilise & recover. There is plenty of good PCT options to use.

i keep gaining im trying to become a freak im never coming off dont want kids ever so i dont have to worry about that....you come off you just go backwards

 

[nzrodney]

i keep gaining im trying to become a freak im never coming off dont want kids ever so i dont have to worry about that....you come off you just go backwards

I'm not going to argue with that Bro. I would be a hypocrit if I did, just be safe in whatever you do.

 

[lookinfit75]

There is an increase in risk/ratio after 6 weeks. That's when (more or less) the body essentially "gives up" and suppression accelerates.

There is also a big drop off of diminishing returns after 12 weeks so if you go much longer than that. you might as well stay on. You'll be shut down anyway and just operating off of the exogenous testosterone. Even with PCT - post cycle therapy - there's a good chanced you'll never be as high naturally as you once were if you do more than one or two cycles longer than 12 weeks, regardless of your age.

Mr. Montana,
In your book, Bodybuilding Bottomline, you advocate 3 week cycles and a week extra to taper off with only specific AAS, making sure to emphasize the fact that it is not a good idea to take anything other the human grade AAS. Can you elaborate a little more on those cycles you recommend please. The next cycle I do will be more than likely modeled after the examples in your book.

 

[ironcheif1984]

Would there be much difference in shutdown between a 3 and 4 week cycle? ( I know both are short!)

Both are too short of a cycle why would you only want to run a cycle of any sort for this short of a period unless it was oral only.

 

[treny]

first cycle less then 8 weeks.. why,, you have to learn how body will react to the gear. I have ran test only at low doses for a year. but I like 12 weeks. good effects and short enough to keep sides in check.