HGH Injection timing - Plunkey get in here

[digimon7068]

I don't know much about HGH production and fasting. For me personally, I haven't associated much of a change in GH production with diet and/or weight.

As far as making 500 micrograms a day at 20 years old, that would be 3.5 mg (10.6 IU) per week which sounds low. There may be some efficiencies associated with natural versus exogenous HGH and I don't know how much of the dose gets broken upon delivery (I suspect it's more than they admit).

For the 40 year old example, 200 micrograms/day = 1.4 mg/week. Then assume you need somewhere between 0.8 to 1.6 mg per day on five out of seven days to get back to high-normal levels. That puts you at 4.0 to 8.0 mg/week of exogenous HGH.

Here's another datapoint to check. For children with HGH deficiency, dosing guidelines are 0.025 to 0.043 mg/kg/day. So for 80 lb kid, we're talking about 0.91mg to 1.56mg per day. But those are done seven days a week (I believe), so you'd be at ~11 mg per week maximum. So far, the studies show that these kids have no adverse long-term effects.

Here's why I'd question the 2000% (20x) impact. At 400 micrograms/day, you'd be making 2.8mg per week. But even if you were at the 20x level for only 25% of the time (8 hours/day) on average, you'd be at 2.8 + 25%*2.8*20 = 16.8mg per week. That's high -- comfortably above the maximum guidelines for dosing children (but you do also weigh considerably more than they do). I suspect (no citationing here) that you'd down-regulate your own production before your body would make that much.

And I would keep an eye on the weightlifting and HGH linkage. There's no doubt the lifting increases HGH when compared to sedentary people -- but the lifting/HGH curve flattens-out and starts to drop again past a certain point. I would bet a lot of people who workout at higher intensities are past (sometimes far past) that optimum point.

And when it comes to the impact of HGH, its really best to periodically get some IGF-1 bloodwork at regular intervals and just test it for yourself. Then you'll get a feel for how the number is just all over the board.

omg...you and redsam are having an intelligent discussion without calling each other all sorts of derogatory names??? hahahaha wtf is the world coming too???

next thing you know, dogs and cats will be living together.

 

[mrplunkey]

ok ... last comment here.

My first bloods looked like this
IGF 1 = 121 ng/ml
Test = 686 ng/dL
Free Test = 15 pg/mL
Estradiol = 32.7 pg/mL

6 week follow up

IGF 1 = 199 ng/mL
Test = 911 ng/dL
Free Test = 21.2 pg/mL
Estradiol = 26.5 pg/mL


Now out of that they only thing they increased was adding another day of HGH injection. If IGF1 is at the top of the range, does that make sense?

That makes total sense. Upping HGH will increase test levels and vice versa.

That's how you can start a modest test/HGH cycle and still go superphysiological for both in 5-6 weeks.

 

[redsamurai]

omg...you and redsam are having an intelligent discussion without calling each other all sorts of derogatory names??? hahahaha wtf is the world coming too???

next thing you know, dogs and cats will be living together.

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[PICK3]

next thing you know, dogs and cats will be living together.

and Plunkey will be kicking PICK3 to teh curb!

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[mrplunkey]

and Plunkey will be kicking PICK3 to teh curb!

Pick3 = Plunkey's perma-bottom

 

[PICK3]

Pick3 = Plunkey's perma-bottom

wtf???

 

[PICK3]

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Plunkey laughed!

 

[redsamurai]

Plunkey laughed!

he most certainly should have, I spent a good 10 minutes on that shit and I feel quite right underappreciated right about now.

 

[redsamurai]

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POTY^^^^


If I do say so myself.

 

[PICK3]

POTY^^^^


If I do say so myself.

still awaiting your poast/vids