here is my cycle vets,mods give you advice please

[BIGJAKE]

wk-1 sus-1000mg-fina-75mg-daily-d-bol-40mg-eq-400mg

wk-2 sus-1000mg-fina-75mg-daily-d-bol-40mg-eq-400mg

wk 3 sus-1000mg-fina-75mg-daily-d-bol-40mg-eq-400mg

wk 4 sus-750mg-fina-75mg-daily-d-bol-40mg-eq-400mg

wk 5 sus-750mg-fina-75mg-daily-eq-400mg

wk 6 sus-750mg-fina-75mg-daily-eq-400mg-winny-50mg-daily

wk 7 sus-750mg-fina-75mg-daily-eq-400mg-winny-50mg-daily

wk 8 sus-750mg-fina-75mg-daily-eq-400mg-winny-50mg-daily

wk 9 sus-750mg-fina-75mg-daily-eq-400mg-winny-50mg-daily

wk 10 sus-750mg-fina-75mg-daily-eq-400mg-winny-50mg-daily

wk 11 winny 50 mg daily

wk 12 winny 50 mg daily


wk13-clomid 100mg 10-days
clomid 50mg 10 days
hcg 500iu every 3rd day thru out pct
nolva 10mg all the way thru cycle and pct
hcg 500iu every 3rd day all the way thru cycle
a-dex .5mg eod all the way thru cycle

 

[wnt2bBeast]

too much with orals..
I would run the sust 1g all the way through rather than the small front load you have

 

[The Terminator]

The fina length is too long for me

 

[SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY]

That's 2 grams/week for 10 weeks... 17aa orals straight through.

I hope you're a really big guy and have experienced several cycles. What are your stats... besides the fact you're in shape (which I took from your member profile).

Also...

hcg 500iu every 3rd day all the way thru cycle

IMO- This is a very hazardous thing to do. I'm old school... I only run HCG post cycle. 5000IU/week for 3 weeks stacked with Nolvadex. I know a lot of guys here have success with smaller doses. However... you're planning running HCG for over 4 months including PCT... way too long! Sometime during those 4 months... HCG will eventually have no effect on your pituitary glad and you'll be shut down something fierce. I have no idea how you'd get out of that either. Cause once LH loses its impact on your pituitary... you'll be fucked indefinitely.

 

[BIGJAKE]

yes i have many cycles under my belt i am gonna check back with my doc on the hcg dose maybe i miss understood him on the dose.i to also used the same dose you have STH in the past this way was by request by my doc i am about 205 5/9 about10-12% on the fat roughly i am not fat not ripped tho. 27 been training since i was 18 had a lay off for back surgery been over a year since then been back in the gym for about a year nursing the back diet is pretty clean.well what is you advice TERM on the fina length i thru the
1000mg sus in the front i had 3 extra so i just thru them in.what is your opinion on the layout then i am open for sug.i have used sim. stacks in the past with great results the only thing i have never taken the fina.

 

[wnt2bBeast]

yes i have many cycles under my belt i am gonna check back with my doc on the hcg dose maybe i miss understood him on the dose.i to also used the same dose you have STH in the past this way was by request by my doc i am about 205 5/9 about10-12% on the fat roughly i am not fat not ripped tho. 27 been training since i was 18 had a lay off for back surgery been over a year since then been back in the gym for about a year nursing the back diet is pretty clean.well what is you advice TERM on the fina length i thru the
1000mg sus in the front i had 3 extra so i just thru them in.what is your opinion on the layout then i am open for sug.i have used sim. stacks in the past with great results the only thing i have never taken the fina.

Gotcha on the front load sust..thats fine..honestly i would only run d-bol wks 1-4 then run the winny wks 9-12..this isnt as bad as your only running 17AA orals for a total of 8 weeks!! I would run the fina the last 6-8 weeks..should really harden you up with the winny!!

 

[bigmouth]

the only thing that was not mentioned is fina,eq,and winny= xanax i hope you have dealed with anxiety before

 

[Mavy]

Gotcha on the front load sust..thats fine..honestly i would only run d-bol wks 1-4 then run the winny wks 9-12..this isnt as bad as your only running 17AA orals for a total of 8 weeks!! I would run the fina the last 6-8 weeks..should really harden you up with the winny!!

Ya ... I think that you nailed bro. That is how i would run it, somthing like that. I agree on the HCG as well, you dont want to desensitze your LH receptors. 500iu every 5 days, or once a week should do the trick ... or even do a mid cycle blast and PCT blast. 500iu e3d may be a little overkill, althought there are many who run it at that dosage. I personally wouldnt. Again, I agree ... dont run the tren for longer than 6 wks. That is when users report running into troubles with tren.

Run the sust and the EQ how you want as your base for the 10 wks, then maybe try adding the extras like this...

wk1-4: dbol
wk4-10: tren
wk10-13: winny

The tren in the middle will give you a 17aa break in between. If you really wanted to, you could run the tren to the very end along with the winny when you start it, but it may be overkill. I would ease off the cycle with the winny alone.

Good Luck,
Mavy

 

[Ulter]

I like it very much. I wish I could do it but my days of high test are over. You should do very well with that. On the extended orals issue I would suggest Tyler Liver Detox during their use. That's what I do when I am using orals like that.

 

[Outtlaw]

Ya ... I think that you nailed bro. That is how i would run it, somthing like that. I agree on the HCG as well, you dont want to desensitze your LH receptors. 500iu every 5 days, or once a week should do the trick ... or even do a mid cycle blast and PCT blast. 500iu e3d may be a little overkill, althought there are many who run it at that dosage. I personally wouldnt. Again, I agree ... dont run the tren for longer than 6 wks. That is when users report running into troubles with tren.

Run the sust and the EQ how you want as your base for the 10 wks, then maybe try adding the extras like this...

wk1-4: dbol
wk4-10: tren
wk10-13: winny

The tren in the middle will give you a 17aa break in between. If you really wanted to, you could run the tren to the very end along with the winny when you start it, but it may be overkill. I would ease off the cycle with the winny alone.

Good Luck,
Mavy

Couldnt have said it better myself. I definitely agree with the hcg. I dont like to use it more than EOW during cycle.