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Thoughts on this cycle

i honestly cant really help, you are just wanting to run ridiculous amounts of gear and dont seem to get it brother.... 50 mg of dbol is way too much.. i dont think you understand the long term ramifications of doing this and likely what you have already done to yourself in the past.. if you cant bulk on a cycle of say test, deca and anadrol, then theres something wrong with your diet and training in a major way... if you REALLY think you need that much gear to get results, theres bigger issues here.. not to mention, the pct is just terrible using hcg in there, which is one of the worst things you could ever do...

test and deca at 300 for 12 weeks with anadrol at 50-100 mg 4 weeks is more than enough.. you could add a sarm like s23, which would add huge strength and size and even adding lgd3303 and you could add serious serious serious size and pull back so much on side effects and run them 12 weeks, but even without them, you could do serious size and strength with just test, deca and anadrol at those doses... ive been doing this over nearly 15 years now and know what goes along with all of this, short and long term


when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen...


when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well… N2Guard plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on…N2Guard helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin (adjust as needed)
N2Guard
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
 
That looks like a professional BB stack! Honestly, I would be cutting everything in half. Way too much water retention and side effects. Also, PCT isn't great. Check out our stick called The Perfect PCT Simplified on the EVO forums.
 
That looks like a professional BB stack! Honestly, I would be cutting everything in half. Way too much water retention and side effects. Also, PCT isn't great. Check out our stick called The Perfect PCT Simplified on the EVO forums.
Thanks brother. Do you have a link to The Perfect PCT Simplified? I cant find it in the EVO forums.
 
Thanks brother. Do you have a link to The Perfect PCT Simplified? I cant find it in the EVO forums.
@bigdextreme74 here are the links

and are we going to see your log going posted? waiting on your LOG bro
 
@bigdextreme74 here are the links

and are we going to see your log going posted? waiting on your LOG bro
Ill post my log as soon after my gear comes in. I received a message today that it should be 7-21 days. Thank you for posting the PCT link!
 
i honestly cant really help, you are just wanting to run ridiculous amounts of gear and dont seem to get it brother.... 50 mg of dbol is way too much.. i dont think you understand the long term ramifications of doing this and likely what you have already done to yourself in the past.. if you cant bulk on a cycle of say test, deca and anadrol, then theres something wrong with your diet and training in a major way... if you REALLY think you need that much gear to get results, theres bigger issues here.. not to mention, the pct is just terrible using hcg in there, which is one of the worst things you could ever do...

test and deca at 300 for 12 weeks with anadrol at 50-100 mg 4 weeks is more than enough.. you could add a sarm like s23, which would add huge strength and size and even adding lgd3303 and you could add serious serious serious size and pull back so much on side effects and run them 12 weeks, but even without them, you could do serious size and strength with just test, deca and anadrol at those doses... ive been doing this over nearly 15 years now and know what goes along with all of this, short and long term


when you use testosterone, you are clearly adding large amounts of it into your body which causes you to eventually be suppressed when you stop using it because your body forgets how to produce it on its own... hence, the need for pct... so, what hcg does is MIMIC your lh and fsh, just like taking testosterone, mimics testosterone production which eventually leads to suppression, correct... so when you mimic lh and fsh, what happens when you stop using it?? im sure you can put two and two together... the reason you use hcg is to get your lh and fsh STIMULATED before pct, so they are not completely bottomed out because when you use test, they are non existent... just like when you run an oral without test... when you go into pct, your test is bottomed out.... when you go into pct using test, AT LEAST its much higher making recovery easier as you reteach your body to produce on its own... so if you use hcg BEFORE pct, then it gives that boost while your body learns how to produce on its own... HOWEVER, if you run hcg IN PCT or after, you end up suppressing yourself because you are just mimicking, not helping to jumpstart anything like nolva and clomid do for your natural testosterone production... NOT TO MENTION, hcg ALSO increases estrogen...


when you are in pct, you are going to get a major spike in cortisol... cortisol is termed the "gains killer" for a reason... it will put you into a catabolic state which will not allow you to build muscle and at the same time will eat it away, on top of the fact you will also get unwanted fat gain... so you will lose muscle and gain fat that you had just busted your ass an entire cycle for... GW and MK prevent the rise in cortisol... not only that but they keep you performing at a level you were while on cycle being the ultimate performance enhancers they are... on top of the fact that mk2866 is the ultimate for healing and recovery, which is imperative in pct as well as keeping strength up to a very high level... gw will also treat cholesterol and blood pressure, which are definitely things that need addressed in pct as well… N2Guard plays a pivotal role in a post-cycle therapy (PCT). There’s a strong misconception that the role of a PCT is simply to restart the natural testosterone production that was shut down from the steroid cycle. While this is true, there are a lot of the other issues that the body has to deal with during a PCT: hormone fluctuations, high liver enzymes, increased blood pressure, pressure on the kidneys and endocrine system, high stress and cortisol levels, the list goes on…N2Guard helps address all of these problems and helps you recover in a timely manner. The quicker you recover, the less likelihood of any long-term problems occurring, and the more likely that all gains you make during your cycle are retained.

clomid 50/50/25/25
nolva 40/40/20/20
aromasin (adjust as needed)
N2Guard
mk-2866 25 mg day
gw-501516 20 mg day
When would you suggest using HCG? I have 10 x 2000iu on hand.
I have used prescription strength Ursodiol in past for liver support. I have not use N2Guard. Who makes this? Im assuming its someone on this forum. How do I know the quality? Same goes for mk-2866 and qw-501516? How do I know this works?
Ive been burned in the past and I am very apprehensive to products I have never used before.

Thanks.

BigD
 
When would you suggest using HCG? I have 10 x 2000iu on hand.
I have used prescription strength Ursodiol in past for liver support. I have not use N2Guard. Who makes this? Im assuming its someone on this forum. How do I know the quality? Same goes for mk-2866 and qw-501516? How do I know this works?
Ive been burned in the past and I am very apprehensive to products I have never used before.

Thanks.

BigD
i dont find hcg necessary whatsoever but if you are intent, 1000 ius the last four weeks right up until pct

umbrella labs has the highest quality sarms and peptides you can find.. they have the longest standing reputation, which is easily verifiable all over and they not only have COA's on all of their product pages but every product you buy has a COA included when it is sent to you

N2guard is a product by N2BM that has been in existence since roughly 2009.. its been a top selling product for over many many years and has 45 protective ingredients.. its the most comprehensive all in one you can find
 
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