Help w/ AAS induced hypogonadism and lab results

[macrophage69alpha]

About a month after my last HCG shot I began to take Tomaxophine Citrate to try and help raise my test. I knew it was late in the game, but I thought it was worth a try.I was taking around 40mg 1st 2 weeks, and tapered down to 30mg, 20mg, etc. That lasted around 8 weeks. I'm not sure if it's a side of the Tamaxo , but I was getting hot flashes, blurry vision, and now 2 weeks since I've taken it I still feel dizzy and light headed following any physical exertion. I also feel slower mentally and physically. I truly do not know if this is a symptom of low test or a side from the Tomaxo.

BOTH and tamoxifin has a 12-14day half life with extended use (4-6weeks before you will have significant clearance)

 

[macrophage69alpha]

your oestrogen is high with test levels that low.

as dr.skier mention run HCG (low dose- large spikes can be more suppressive) + AI(Aromasin or AIFM) + SERM (try clomid- you dont seem to respond well to nolva)

 

[njmuscleguy]

your oestrogen is high with test levels that low.

as dr.skier mention run HCG (low dose- large spikes can be more suppressive) + AI(Aromasin or AIFM) + SERM (try clomid- you dont seem to respond well to nolva)

I agree with Macro on this one.... do another PCT....that's what I wound up doing when my first PCT didn't "take".... HCG at 500iu / day for anywhere from 10-21 days + AIFM + Clomid (I typically don't like Clomid but it was a necessary evil the 2nd time around).... this seemed to work

 

[blacksabbath1987]

I agree with Macro on this one.... do another PCT....that's what I wound up doing when my first PCT didn't "take".... HCG at 500iu / day for anywhere from 10-21 days + AIFM + Clomid (I typically don't like Clomid but it was a necessary evil the 2nd time around).... this seemed to work

give palm beach rejuvination a try they are close to you. i am in their program because my libido was shot also, i agree wiyh everyone else with the above statments. but if your are still having problems give palm beach a try you have nothing to lose,and gain back your drive.you can also add some tribuls t, i also know company called (LIBIDUS) THAT IN 10-minutes you can get a erection, if you have any questions you can pm me and i can give you more details.

 

[njmuscleguy]

give palm beach rejuvination a try they are close to you. i am in their program because my libido was shot also, i agree wiyh everyone else with the above statments. but if your are still having problems give palm beach a try you have nothing to lose,and gain back your drive.you can also add some tribuls t, i also know company called (LIBIDUS) THAT IN 10-minutes you can get a erection, if you have any questions you can pm me and i can give you more details.

I'm curious.... what does their program entail? What are they having you take?

 

[njmuscleguy]

You need to make an appointment with Swale. Contact him through Allthingsmale.com. He's the leading expert on cases just like yours and will bring you back. You have to fly to East Lansing, Michigan to see him the first time, but the $400 bucks you'll spend on the flight and the $250 for the diagnosis and drugs will be the best money you've ever spent. And just for the record, I'm just a happy patient and have no financial or other interest in the doc's business.

Same question for you.... what did your regimen entail? (what drugs, etc.)

 

[MADBALL99]

Would running Clomid w/out HCG be a bad idea ? Wouldn't HCG just suppress me more, especially my LH which is already low ?

 

[jagerbombme]

man, deca's dang sides don't sound like they make it worth it to do the stuff. even when running test it sounds like this stuff just causes problems. especially if it's not done right with more test mg's than deca. of course this is all from what i've read here. but i don't think i'll ever do the stuff. test sounds good enough to me. straight forward. although it is deca's pro-joint material which is what turned me on to aas in the first place, and from there, who doesn't want to get big.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Would running Clomid w/out HCG be a bad idea ? Wouldn't HCG just suppress me more, especially my LH which is already low ?

Bro, you've been given a TON of advice time and time again.... you seemingly don't like what you're hearing, so why keep asking? Not trying to flame here... but take some of these suggestions... see what happens... running another proper PCT couldn't hurt...only help....

Read this article, it may answer some questions:

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/anthony-roberts/post-cycle-therapy.htm